Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

[Akhenaten]

Partially does, yes. Read a definition of evidence in post 13; then read my other 1900 posts for additional supporting evidence.

Whatever evidence is represented by your pathetic list of names has been debunked so many times by the people on my list that your presentation of it now is sheer effrontery.

Referring to the other 1900 lies, exaggerations, fallacies, misnomers, false attributions and fanciful speculations that you've offered as evidence is a sick joke, at which you may rest assured all are enjoying a hearty laugh, apart, of course, from those fighting down nausea.

Pitiful, DOC, absolutely pitiful.

 

[DOC]

So basically what's "moral" is anything god does, no matter how crazy and psychotic it is ?

It is not crazy and psychotic to give a severe punishment to someone who beat several men and several women.

 

[Akhenaten]

It is not crazy and psychotic to give a severe punishment to someone who beat several men and several women.

How psychotic would it be to cause a world-wide flood that destroyed all life but one family and its boat-bound menagerie.

Or was that a different god to the New Testament one?

 

[DOC]

Each one of those were writing hearsay. Not one was a witness or knew of any witnesses...

Historian Shelby Foote, who was on the PBS acclaimed series "The Civil War" wrote a 3 volume history book on the Civil War. Do you think he was a witness of the Civil War or knew any witnesses. But he did have one advantage. They had paper and printing presses during the Civil War but they didn't have that during biblical times. We don't even have an existing signature of Julius Caesar.

 

[Gandalfs Beard]

How psychotic would it be to cause a world-wide flood that destroyed all life but one family and its boat-bound menagerie.

Or was that a different god to the New Testament one?

Last time I checked the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse reveal a New Testament god as vengeful as the Tanakh god. It sort of puts a lie to the claim that Christ brought a new covenant.

 

[Toke]

We don't even have an existing signature of Julius Caesar.

Not really relevant, but for all I know he used a signet ring or stamp, not a signature.

 

[DOC]

How psychotic would it be to cause a world-wide flood that destroyed all life but one family and its boat-bound menagerie.

Or was that a different god to the New Testament one?

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless. And remember Christ's parable -- branches that don't produce good fruit will be cut off and thrown into the fire.

 

[Lothian]

Partially does, yes. Read a definition of evidence in post 13; then read my other 1900 posts for additional supporting evidence.

Oooooh. another one for the list.

I have over 80 posts in this thread.

I don't have the time right now to go through my other 80+ posts.

And I asked you to list only 3 fallacious arguments in my 100 posts in this thread and which post they came from.

List one specific lie contained in my 163 posts and your proof that it is a lie.

But it is my belief God does give enough evidence (some of which I have pointed out in my 160+ posts) to rationally believe in Him,

Huh, haven't you read my 174 posts?

Would it be possible for me to post 200+ times in an evidence thread that has around 90 other posters without giving any evidence

And a lot of the evidence or reasons or whatever you want to call it that I've presented in my 200+ posts have been from the book posted in post #1.

You must have missed my last 215 posts.

And your comment about me not being well read in my faith is a joke that my 27 or so threads with thousands of posts will attest to.

Haven't you read my 259 posts..

I left over 400 posts in that thread.

Your welcome to read my 319 posts.

Your post might confuse someone who haven't read my 319 posts

You're entitled to your opinion, but I'll be happy if people read at least half of my 319 posts in here and they can judge for themselves.

I'll be happy if people with an open mind read at least half of my posts.

My 358 posts are out there for everyone to read and then they can make up their own mind.

Name one post out of my 395 posts in this thread where I lied. Of course you won't be able to.

there is also more evidence within my 400 posts.

Can living things without souls leave thousands of posts on the Randi website.

Sometimes I think you don't realize that my 650+ posts in this thread are out there for everyone to read.

And the evidence is the thousands of posts this soul puts forth the effort to leave.

Name one spambot that has left thousands of posts in the Randi threads?

Can physical living material post thousands of posts on a Randi site?

I've been on this site over 2 years and left over 2800 messages.

[And of course other information is brought out in my 460+ posts.

I believe it and in my 500 or so posts in this thread I given you some reasons why you should believe.

I've given my reasons based on facts in my 560 posts in this thread

My 500 posts in the following thread say otherwise:

My close to 3000 posts about Christianity have to have some substance behind them

Maybe 2 to 3 % at most of my 2900+ posts have to do with those topics

Is it really possible to make 634 posts in an evidence thread like I have in this thread without any evidence.

the good news for me is my #634 posts are out there to read.

And I guess my 650 posts are not enough for some people.

Sometimes I think you don't realize that my 650+ posts in this thread are out there for everyone to read.

Give one lie I have written in my 3000+ posts

If people read my 725 posts they will know mine.

I think I already said enough about Jefferson in my 500 posts in the "Thomas Jefferson's admiration and financial support of Christianity" thread.

Not even one of my 824 posts?

Which of my 844 posts in this thread have been shown to be wrong ?

Is it possible to leave 900 posts in an evidence thread without giving any evidence.

And you will find more in my 900+ posts in this thread.

If you read my 950+ posts in this thread you'll understand why .

my 1000+ posts in this thread are out there and they have little if anything to do with me.

Is it really possible to leave 1100 posts in a thread (like I have in this one) or to have threads like the following 74 page thread on Science if you don't read.

You've have the right to your opinion but my 1100 posts in this thread say otherwise.

Read my 1100 posts in this thread and you will find much evidence

And also my other 1100 posts.

My 1100 posts in this thread are out there

And my 1300 posts (several hundred with information) show that I have a different opinion than you.

Better yet read all 1200 of my posts

Maybe it might of made sense to ask such a question on page 5 or 6, but to ask it on page 199 of this thread is laughable to any unbiased person who has read all 1300 of my posts.

Thank you for your attempt to summarize my close to 1400 posts in 5 lines.

Another general opinion trying to discredit my 1400 posts in 2 sentences.

I've left well over 1400 posts.

If you read my 1400 posts maybe starting with post 7667 (pg. 192) you will find out.

Of course you won't be able to give one lie I've have supposedly made in over 4000 posts I've have made since I have been on the system.

And many of my 1500 posts answer your question about evidence.

Actually I'm dead serious about every one of my 4,414 posts.

And my other 1600 posts has more evidence for people to consider.

I couldn't have made 1600 posts without it.

Have you read my 1600 posts?

My 1600 posts are out there, people have the free will right to think of them as they choose.

My 1600 posts in this 10,000+ post thread are evidence of my honest debate.

The good news is that my close to 1700 posts are out there

So 1700 posts is not enough for you.

and now..

read my other 1900 posts for additional supporting evidence.

 

[RoboTimbo]

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless. And remember Christ's parable: branches that don't produce good fruit will be cut off and thrown into the fire.

And the people you own who don't know your will shall be beaten, but with few stripes.

 

[Akhenaten]

Historian Shelby Foote, who was on the PBS acclaimed series "The Civil War" wrote a 3 volume history book on the Civil War. Do you think he was a witness of the Civil War or knew any witnesses. But he did have one advantage. They had paper and printing presses during the Civil War but they didn't have that during biblical times. We don't even have an existing signature of Julius Caesar.

This is toatally irrelevant to a discussion of evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth, and you know it. Dog knows you've been told hundreds of times.

 

[John Jones]

Partially does, yes. Read a definition of evidence in post 13; then read my other 1900 posts for additional supporting evidence.

He's doing it again with the post counting.

 

[Akhenaten]

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless. And remember Christ's parable -- branches that don't produce good fruit will be cut off and thrown into the fire.

That's utter garbage DOC, and you know that just as you know that referring to your god man's 'parables' is a totally illegitemate excuse for an argument.

Lies upon lies, DOC.

 

[Lucian]

Oooooh. another one for the list.

<comprehensive list of post count references>

and now..

Did he really make it all the way through the 1800s without mentioning post count? That's progress. Or something.

 

[six7s]

I'm trying to give you evidence that the historical person Jesus Christ was exactly who he said he was -- the Messiah, and the eternal God in the flesh.

http://www.biblesearch.com/whoisjesus/claims.htm

Roman Senator/Historian Tacitus

Jewish historian Josephus mentions Christ twice -- one is contested as a "partial" interpolation by most scholars, the other is deemed legitimate by most scholars.

Roman Seutonius

Thallus

Pliny the Younger

Trajan

Hadrian

Toledoth Jesu

Lucian

Phlegon

Mara Bar-Seraption

Are you seriously suggesting that the above list of names somehow supports your goal of providing 'evidence that the historical person Jesus Christ was the Messiah, and the eternal God in the flesh'?

If so... well... words fail me...



Your so-called arguments are an even bigger joke than your so-called god!

Partially does, yes. Read a definition of evidence in post 13; then read my other 1900 posts for additional supporting evidence.

DOC... it has been pointed out to you - repeatedly - that, although you are fully entitled to your nurture your own delusions, your standards of 'evidence' are woefully inadequate in a forum discussion aimed at promoting critical thinking

If you are sincerely aiming to provide "evidence that the historical person Jesus Christ was exactly who he said he was -- the Messiah, and the eternal God in the flesh", then your list of names, like your "other 1900 posts", is merely a waste of bandwidth

My guess is that you have tried praying for some 'divine assistance' in achieving your goal...

If so, it clearly hasn't worked (don't be surprised... it never, ever has)

Either way, try thinking instead; you have nothing to lose but your delusions

 

[Lothian]

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless.

So why didn't he know before?

 

[Gandalfs Beard]

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless. And remember Christ's parable -- branches that don't produce good fruit will be cut off and thrown into the fire.

So all the infants and children (not to mention all the animals) were given a chance to change before they were murdered in an act of Genocide???

 

[Aepervius]

If we keep it up with all this servant/slave talk, poor old DOC will have an apopleptic seizure. I suggest we use the code word "off" for either "servant" or "slave" to ease his mind.

It'll be our safe word.

Can#t be, he is already suffering from apologetic coma.

 

[Audible Click]

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless. And remember Christ's parable -- branches that don't produce good fruit will be cut off and thrown into the fire.

God is supposedly omnipotent, so why would he have to "realize" the situation is "hopeless"? He would know that beforehand. I suppose it was another one of those lose/lose tests he always seemed to be doing.

 

[kmortis]

It is not crazy if God gave them opportunities to change their behavior but they wouldn't. God probably realized the situation at that time was hopeless. And remember Christ's parable -- branches that don't produce good fruit will be cut off and thrown into the fire.

And yet, the only evidence we have that they were given opportunities were supplied by the supporters of the psychotic who killed them all. Hrm...no wonder it looks like they were all nasty, nasty people.

Of course, since they're all fictional people in any case, I'm not that outraged.

So, got any evidence that the New Testament Authors told the truth yet?

 

[DOC]

Darn! I was enjoying all the discussion of beating servants. I was even taking notes on the off chance that I'll ever have a few servants.

I don't believe anyone ever answered my point as to whether they would rather receive 10 lashes or spend several years in jail.

Personally I rather receive 10 lashes and be sore for a few days, kind of like a sunburn.