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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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It's ALWAYS a quantum thing...
 
Simon39759 said:
Thing is, if I give an answer, it would give the poster in question the temptation to do go for the other option, just to prove me wrong. I know that I would be tempted to act so.
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On that assumption, are you not prepared to predict he will start another thread? Sounds like a win-win to me...
 
Simon39759 said:
Lo... listen to me people of the fora for I speak the truth and the truth speaks through me.

I prophesize... I prophesize that DOC will not be swayed by the words of Amb, that he will ignore them or recycle the same old, tired apologetic and never, never concede that she might be right.

Here are my words and so speaketh I.




There, Amb, there will be at least one prophecy that had came true.
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Only one thing wrong there. The she is a he! :p
 
paximperium said:
... Do you have any evidence for superduper magic Jesus?
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I guess if people ask the same question, I have a right to give the same answer. Read my 1100 posts in this thread and you will find much evidence.

Here is a summary of "some" of it:

http://books.google.com/books?id=PC..._brr=0#v=onepage&q=Geisler 10 reasons&f=false

NOTE: if you are outside the US, you will not get info from the above website. So you might try reading the following website and scroll down to the 84 facts and 59 facts that point to the pinpoint accurracy of gospel writers Luke and John.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=51643
 
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DOC said:
I guess if people ask the same question, I have a right to give the same answer. Read my 1100 posts in this thread and you will find much evidence see that, although the answer is obviously a resounding NO, I will persist with half-baked nonsense that reinforces my delusions until I get banned.
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Fixed that for you :)
 
DOC said:
I guess if people ask the same question, I have a right to give the same answer. Read my 1100 posts in this thread and you will find much evidence.

Here is a summary of some of it:

http://books.google.com/books?id=PC..._brr=0#v=onepage&q=Geisler 10 reasons&f=false
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Nice link. Someone has read his work before making that link.
http://books.google.com/books?id=PCGhbTrI9QoC&pg=PA275&dq=Geisler+10+reasons&lr=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0#v=onepage&q=Geisler%2010%20reasons&f=false
 
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amb said:
What genuine prophecy has ever happened? None! Ever! in all of this planets history, and if there's other inhabited planets out there in the cosmos, none there either.
The laws of physics do not work that way...
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Using the Laws of physics, I prophecize that if you jump off a 30 story building you will die.

And many people have converted from Judaism to Christianity because of this prophesy:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142542
 
DOC said:
Using the Laws of physics, I prophecize that if you jump off a 30 story building you will die.

And many people have converted from Judaism to Christianity because of this prophesy:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142542
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Many people have converted from one religion to another, and they all do it because they believe the new one to be true. However this thread is not about what people believed or about whether things could have happened. We want evidence for the supernatural parts of the bible. You have none, apart from the stories in the bible. Is the Koran evidence the Koran is true?
 
DOC said:
Using the Laws of physics, I prophecize that if you jump off a 30 story building you will die.

And many people have converted from Judaism to Christianity because of this prophesy:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142542
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Is this circular (il)logic gone mad?

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DOC said:
In my thread "Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth" that is currently in the History and Literature forum we touch briefly on Isaiah Chapter 53 of the Bible. Since it deals with prophecy I thought I'd bring it to the Religion forum to take a closer look at this biblical chapter. In the book "Examine the Evidence" author Ralph Muncas examines this chapter on pages 332 - 335. Let's take a look at it.
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GeeMack said:
Okay, so the OP is your take on another author's convoluted interpretation of what some Christians might accept as vague descriptions of what constitutes fulfillment of a handful of prophesies which were made in an anthology of fictional works written over two thousand years ago. Could you get any more desperate in your effort to convince yourself that your delusion is real? (Well, if history is any indicator, of course you can. Why do I even ask?) Anyway, at least it's just exactly as meaningful to contemporary reality as any of your other threads.
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DOC said:
I guess if people ask the same question, I have a right to give the same answer. Read my 1100 posts in this thread and you will find much evidence.

Here is a summary of "some" of it:

http://books.google.com/books?id=PC..._brr=0#v=onepage&q=Geisler 10 reasons&f=false

NOTE: if you are outside the US, you will not get info from the above website. So you might try reading the following website and scroll down to the 84 facts and 59 facts that point to the pinpoint accurracy of gospel writers Luke and John.

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=51643
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Where's the evidence of magic man Jesus? I can accept some fella named Jesus existed who pissed off the Romans and got whacked.

Can't find anything about suoer-duper magic man Jesus anywhere? Could you point out this "evidence"?
 
DOC said:
Using the Laws of physics, I prophecize that if you jump off a 30 story building you will die.
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Hey amazing. Your "prophetic" powers is much greater than that failure of a Bible. In fact what did you just use that works?
Come on. Guess what has even more 'prophetic" powers and works well consistently over your silly little book? Starts with an S and ends with an -ience.
And many people have converted from Judaism to Christianity because of this prophesy:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142542
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If they did so then they are inherently the stupidest new Christians around but stupidity does not evidence make.
 
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Gday,

DOC said:
Well Jesus Christ was not invisible, and his words were recorded on 24,000 manuscripts compared to 7 manuscripts for Plato.
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The Book of Mormon is recorded on MILLIONS of copies.
Much more than the NT, so it must be much more true.


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6)the unexplained empty tomb
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What tomb?
Paul never mentioned a tomb.
Nor did any of the NT epistles.
No Christian writer shows any knowledge of the empty tomb until early-mid 2nd century.

Now, there are 4 alleged 'tombs' of Jesus - two in Jerusalem.


K.
 
amb said:
Christians, if they have been good little boys and girls go to heaven?

Then where do atheists go? There will be the problem of all dressed up and nowhere to go. :p
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Hell. With the fire and the brimstone and the people who have sex the wrong way. Not to mention people who aren't sorry for eating an apple and people who wouldn't kill their child because a burning bush told them to do so. Which reminds me, Happy New Year to any Jewish people here.
 
I went around to the theology site.
Can you believe it?
Sir William Ramsay's opinion of Luke's accuracy is actually considered proof of said accuracy.
The lists are simply embarrassing, piled up details which prove nothing at all.

I find it really sad that this could possibly be considered proof of the NT's fidelity to the truth.
So. No evidence and back to Geisler and cie.
 
At the theology site:
Now, why would Luke be so accurate with trivial details like wind directions, water depths, and peculiar town names, but not be accurate when it comes to important events like miracles? In light of the fact that Luke has proven accurate with so many trivial details, it is nothing but pure anti-supernatural bias to say he's not telling the truth about the miracles he records. As we have seen, such a bias is illegitimate. This is a theistic world where miracles are possible. So it makes much more sense to believe Luke's miracle accounts than to discount them. In other words, Luke's credentials as a historian have been proven on so many points that it takes more faith not to believe his miracle accounts than to believe them.
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Now we see where DOC gets his 'line'.
In any case, the comments to this 'article' make interesting reading, especially the ones by Vorkosigan, on the subject of literary devises of the first and second centuries.
 
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