Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

[Foster Zygote]

Then you're going out of your way to not read the information presented to you, and you have not read the Talmudic passages in question.

Here's the link which you have ignored yet again.

Thanks, that was interesting.

How about you, DOC? Did you find it interesting?

 

[six7s]

Well; the debate on the exact death of Jesus is not closed yet (the Gospels are a bit contradictory on the subject).
But, no, considering that the last supper is generally considered to have been a passover meal, Jesus must have died the following day.

Don't get hung up over Easter!

 

[zooterkin]

The Older Rabbi compliments the Inn for being beautiful. Yeshu, retorts by refering to the innkeeper's lovely looks. (the word for inn and innkeeper being the same). The Rabbi Rebukes Yeshu for coming onto a married woman.

That was a somewhat racier end to the story than I expected...

 

[pakeha]

Yet another Talmud link

On the subject of the Talmud as a non-Christian source:


http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cach...ud+Christ&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=es&lr=lang_en

It seems to me this 'list' of sources is seriously lacking as source material upon which to base a claim that there are ten non-Christian sources that are evidence of the veracity of the NT writers.
Is this really all you've got?

So. The Talmud post-dates the NT.
DOC hasn't come up with anything to defend those rebutted ten sources whatsoever.
Thallus and Phlegon? Mara ben Serapion?

DOC has provided 10 non Christian sources as evidence the NT writers told the truth. They've been debunked pretty easily and so the next question is:
When is DOC actually going to post up evidence to defend the OP?

 

[six7s]

...so the next question is:
When is DOC actually going to post up evidence to defend the OP?

A: The day after hell freezes over

 

[Foster Zygote]

When is DOC actually going to post up evidence to defend the OP?

I'm sure it will happen by page 200.

 

[six7s]

I'm sure it will happen by page 200.

Can vBulletin be configured to display 144,000 posts per page?

 

[Simon39759]

200 pages and still no valid evidences?

 

[six7s]

200 pages and still no valid evidences?

Typical bloody atheist! Why do you always resort to such extreme hyperbole?

Even with this post, it's only 198.225 pages!!11!!

 

[joobz]

Actually it says the herald went out for 40 days to say he would be stoned. But then it said he was hanged.

On Wednesday and Friday I might say I'm going to the beach on Sunday. If I write someone the next week and say I went to the park Sunday. There is no proof I actually went to the beach on Sunday.

So, your argument is that since the Talmud said some womanizing rabbi named jesus (a popular name) was stoned and hung, this proves that jesus rose from the dead?

 

[wollery]

So, your argument is that since the Talmud said some womanizing rabbi named jesus (a popular name) was stoned and hung, this proves that jesus rose from the dead?

He was hung? That would help with the womanising, although being stoned, he may have been too laid back to do anything about it.

 

[pakeha]

A: The day after hell freezes over

If this thread didn't exist, it would have to invented.
Where else can you get the Talmud, snopes and drug use on the same page.
Everything but evidence the NT writers were telling the truth.

 

[amb]

Don't be silly. Everyone knows Jesus was gay.

This is no joke. Who was the young man who fled naked on the night Jesus was arrested? A very strange story that.

 

[amb]

200 pages and still no valid evidences?

And even if this thread goes another 200 pages, you still shall not have any evidence the gospel writers were telling the truth.

 

[DOC]

200 pages and still no valid evidences?

The PhDs Norman Geisler and Dr. Hugh Ross have a different opinion than you:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5281106#post5281106

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I wonder when the next thread flooder and spammer will post another "Still no evidence, huh Doc?" post. Maybe it might of made sense to ask such a question on page 5 or 6, but to ask it on page 199 of this thread is laughable to any unbiased person who has read all 1300 of my posts.

I guess a person could have the opinion that there is enough evidence for them but to say there is no evidence I think seriously hurts the credibility of that person at this point in the thread. And this goes for the several people who keeps asking this and not just you Simon.
But this thread flooding will probably continue so I guess all you serious viewers will just have to put up with their non-informative repetitions.

 

[pakeha]

amb wrote:

And even if this thread goes another 200 pages, you still shall not have any evidence the gospel writers were telling the truth.

Except, of course, for the closely reasoned arguments of Geisler and cie.

 

[pakeha]

The PhDs Norman Geisler and Dr. Hugh Ross have a different opinion than you:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5281106#post5281106

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I wonder when the next thread flooder and spammer will post another "Still no evidence, huh Doc? post. Maybe it might of made sense to ask such a question on page 5 or 6, but to ask it on page 199 of this thread is laughable to any unbiased person who has read all 1300 of my posts.

I guess a person could have the opinion that there is enough evidence for them but to say there is no evidence I think seriously hurts the credibility of that person at this point in the thread. And this goes for the several people who keeps asking this and not just you Simon.
But this thread flooding will probably continue so I guess all you serious viewers will just have to put up with their non-informative repetitions.

Is this a reply to the debunking of the "10" nonChristian sources you posted up, DOC?
I think something more is due to those who investigated the claims and actually answered them. And debunked them.
It almost reads as if you are conceding those "10" sources are as forced, contrived and dishonest we've shown them to be.
In which case, it is to be hoped they won't be cited again here.

 

[DOC]

DOC has provided 10 non Christian sources as evidence the NT writers told the truth. They've been debunked pretty easily...

Thank you for your opinion. And my opinion is they haven't been debunked so I guess people are going to have to read the posts themselves and make up their own minds. Maybe one day people will let the posts stand for themselves without interjecting their opinions every few pages, but I doubt that will ever happen.

In a way I'm encouraged by this behavior because it tells me that some people don't have the confidence to let their rebuttals or informative posts stand by themselves. They feel they have to continually make generalized opinionated statements in an effort to support them.

 

[pakeha]

I went around to see what DOC had linked to in their last post (as of writing)

Well here is some of the evidence I've brought into the thread.

http://books.google.com/books?id=PC...6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Geisler 10 reasons&f=false

http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4704978#post4704978

http://www.reasons.org/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-reliability-bible

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4693173#post4693173

I am astonished DOC would even trouble to link yet again to that thoroughly refuted Josh McDowell site yet again.
Doesn't DOC read what we post?
And the fulfilled (backfitted) prophecy "evidence"? Again?

So how about discussing the rebutted "10" nonChristian sources and why they have any relevance to the discussion, other than as spoof material.

 

[pakeha]

Thank you for your opinion. And my opinion is they haven't been debunked so I guess people are going to have to read the posts themselves.

Fantastic, DOC. Could you share with us why you think that those "10" sources weren't debunked?
The Mara ben Serapion letter, for example?
Or the Talmud?