Trump 2.0 would be a catastrophe for the world...

[Ziggurat]

It would be the biggest executive overreach in US history

I think you are unfamiliar with US history.

 

[Hercules56]

And yet, no wars were started under Trump.

Huh. Was he just doing it wrong, or is he not actually the next Hitler?

You can tell yourself this when he starts rounding up millions of people to be deported. Some of them folks who have lived here for decades.

I'm sure it will make you feel like Trump isn't Hitler.

You can tell yourself this when Trump starts to persecute and prosecute his political enemies. I'm sure it will make you feel like Trump isn't Hitler.

You can tell yourself this when Trump continues his crackdown on womens' rights. I'm sure it will make you feel like Trump isn't Hitler.

You can tell yourself this when Trump abandons our allies and international organizations. I'm sure it will make you feel like Trump isn't Hitler.

You can tell yourself this when Trump literally lets our enemies attack our allies and friends. I'm sure it will make you feel like Trump isn't Hitler.

You can tell yourself this when Trump starts enacting Project 2025, with all its Fascism. I'm sure it will make you feel like Trump isn't Hitler.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Issues_of_identity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Reproductive_issues

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Immigration_reforms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Personnel_change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Expansion_of_presidential_powers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Christian_nationalism

 

[a_unique_person]

And? The claim was specifically about starting wars.







But they didn't. That happened under Biden, not Trump.

It's a stupid claim to make. Be didn't get out of Afghanistan either.

 

[Hercules56]

It's a stupid claim to make. Be didn't get out of Afghanistan either.

Trump technically did not start any new military conflicts, but he sure as hell continued the ones he inherited.

And Trump 2.0 will definitely attack Iran and allow Putin to attack Europe.

 

[Ziggurat]

You can tell yourself this when he starts rounding up millions of people to be deported.

Uh... Hitler wasn't known for deporting people. In fact, I can't think of any dictators who are known for that. Quite the reverse, dictators tend to make it hard for people to leave. So yeah, if Trump deports millions of illegal immigrants, I will very much think, yeah, that's not very Hitlery. Because I'm not a god damn idiot who thinks everything I don't like is Hitler.

You can tell yourself this when Trump starts to persecute and prosecute his political enemies.

Democrats complaining about prosecuting political enemies. Chef's kiss irony.

You can tell yourself this when Trump continues his crackdown on womens' rights.

You mean abortion rights. Except he's not going to continue to do that, because he's already come out against a federal ban. He got what he wanted, he's got no reason to go further.

You can tell yourself this when Trump abandons our allies and international organizations.

Again, not the problem with dictatorships.

You can tell yourself this when Trump literally lets our enemies attack our allies and friends.

I wonder what excuses you'll come up with if this doesn't happen.

You can tell yourself this when Trump starts enacting Project 2025, with all its Fascism.

Talk about defining fascism down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#Christian_nationalism

I didn't bother looking at every bit of the Wikipedia article, but this bit is interesting. Why? Because it's not actually about Project 2025 at all. It's about a contributor to Project 2025. Did you notice that nothing in that section refers to anything that's actually part of Project 2025 itself? Because I did.

 

[Ziggurat]

It's a stupid claim to make. Be didn't get out of Afghanistan either.

Neither did Obama. Furthermore, Obama did get us into a new war. But Obama wasn't portrayed as a war monger. Curious, isn't it?

 

[Hercules56]

Uh... Hitler wasn't known for deporting people. In fact, I can't think of any dictators who are known for that. Quite the reverse, dictators tend to make it hard for people to leave. So yeah, if Trump deports millions of illegal immigrants, I will very much think, yeah, that's not very Hitlery. Because I'm not a god damn idiot who thinks everything I don't like is Hitler...

Its adorable how little you know about the Holocaust and the deportation of millions of Jews to Auschwitz and other foreign death camps

...Democrats complaining about prosecuting political enemies. Chef's kiss irony....

when did Democrats prosecute people SIMPLY cuz they are political enemies?

...You mean abortion rights. Except he's not going to continue to do that, because he's already come out against a federal ban. He got what he wanted, he's got no reason to go further....

Control over their bodies, IS a women's rights issue. I thought you knew this.

...Again, not the problem with dictatorships....

Japan and Germany and other Fascist stated didn't abandon the League of Nations????? Wow you really know zilch about WW2.

...I wonder what excuses you'll come up with if this doesn't happen....

Its already happened. Trump said he would encourage our enemies to attack NATO allies who dont pay enough money.


Sounds like you've gone full-on MAGA and are just defending Trump now.

Sad.

 

[Ziggurat]

Its adorable how little you know about the Holocaust and the deportation of millions of Jews to Auschwitz

You think Trump is going to deport illegal aliens to concentration camps?

Yeah, I don't think he will.

when did Democrats prosecute people SIMPLY cuz they are political enemies?

And the excuses begin.

Japan and Germany and other Fascist stated didn't abandon the League of Nations?????

The League of Nations weren't their allies.

Sounds like you've gone full-on MAGA and are just defending Trump now.

Sad.

You've got full Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's comical.

Trump isn't Hitler. He will never be Hitler. He will just be a president you don't like. Get over yourself.

 

[junkshop]

US politics has it's own special and exceptional subforum. This is "Non-USA & General Politics".

 

[stanfr]

You think Trump is going to deport illegal aliens to concentration camps?
Trump isn't Hitler. He will never be Hitler. He will just be a president you don't like. Get over yourself.

Well there it is, the downplaying imminent danger of the year award.
Everything is gonna be just fine...
Never mind that Trump's strongest core supporters are vocal white supremacists whose character is below that of the average Nazi. And that they are the ones who he will surround himself with if returned to office. A couple are still in jail but they could be released...
Trump is *not* Hitler, that is most definitely true.
More than a handful of students of history, including myself, (BS, JD) believe he has at least the *potential* to be worse in terms of historic impact.
Hitler did not have the power to derail any chance of escaping catastrophic effects from climate change.
Hitler didn't have the means (social media) to summon and unite the sociopaths of the world.
Hitler didn't have his thumb on the nuclear codes.

 

[stanfr]

...snip...
What, did Biden appoint a pro-Trump justice?

Huh? Did you notice the recent SC ruling, a 6-3 majority in favor of insanity?

You don't understand how government works, do you? Nor do you seem to understand that Trump doesn't have the best track record of picking who will and won't be loyal to him. Do you think he's gotten better at that?

Fair point, I will grant you that! But out of fear of diving too much into US politics (so sorry...) you apparently haven't noticed that government isn't working at all right now. There's a cult blowing millions of dollars just to promote their insane cult philosophy of Trumpism, it is literally in charge of a large chunk of the government right now.

Thank god for that. Fauci was a disaster.

another thread...but you're missing the point--he stood up to Trumps ignorance and stupidity. He was a darling of previous Republican administrations and only lost his rep because the cult did not like him. No way would anyone who does not vocally pledge his complete allegiance to the Supreme Leader will be allowed to speak on Fox News let alone MSN again. Just ask Liz CHeney or Mitt Romney among many others how disloyalty to the cult turns out.

 

[Hercules56]

You think Trump is going to deport illegal aliens to concentration camps?

Yeah, I don't think he will.



And the excuses begin.



The League of Nations weren't their allies.



You've got full Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's comical.

Trump isn't Hitler. He will never be Hitler. He will just be a president you don't like. Get over yourself.

So as long as Trump's fascism isn't as bad as Hitler's fascism, its ok?

Mussolini, Franco, Hirohito, Marshall Petain, you're ok with all of them cuz they weren't Hitler.

 

[Hercules56]

You think Trump is going to deport illegal aliens to concentration camps?....

No, but he will deport millions of people. He said he will. Its what Fascist states do.

You're in total MAGA denial, my friend.

 

[Hercules56]

....
The League of Nations weren't their allies.....

Trump is threatening to leave NATO. He already left the WHO. Hitler left the League of Nations.

Trump is following the Fascist Playbook and you like other MAGArs is in denial.

 

[Hercules56]

If Trump is reelected he will simply continue his fascist agenda but this time on overdrive because he is older angrier and more crazy.

He will pull out of international organizations like a good fascist does.

He will let Putin completely take over Ukraine and threaten other European countries.

he will let China invade Taiwan.

He will attack Iran and let Israel do whatever he wants to Arab civilians.

He will continue his war on women's rights and gay rights.

He will continue his war on science and facts.

He will continue his war to raise taxes on the middle class and lower taxes on the wealthy.

He will continue his war to pull back environmental and other regulations so that our country is less clean and less safe.

He will deport millions of illegal aliens regardless of how long they have lived here how much taxes they have paid how hard they have worked whether they went to college etc etc

 

[Ziggurat]

So as long as Trump's fascism isn't as bad as Hitler's fascism, it’s ok?

It’s not fascism, period. That’s just your paranoia and groupthink.

Mussolini, Franco, Hirohito, Marshall Petain, you're ok with all of them cuz they weren't Hitler.

I didn’t say that either. But they are indeed not Hitler. Calling them Hitler isn’t the only way to criticize them.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I think you are unfamiliar with US history.

Nope.

For most of history, there wasn't this much bureaucracy to control, so this would be bigger than everything before.

I guess you forgot everything you said before Trump's term.
I guess Jan 6th was just tourists.

 

[stanfr]

No, but he will deport millions of people. He said he will. Its what Fascist states do.

You're in total MAGA denial, my friend.

I'm not completely convinced of this. He has a lot of friends and supporters who amassed their fortune by taking advantage of illegal but very cheap labor. They don't want to lose that.

 

[arthwollipot]

Thank god for that. Fauci was a disaster.

Fauci was a ******* hero. For decades.

 

[3point14]

It's not an objection at all. It's an observation plus a question. You aren't contesting the observation, and you aren't answering the question.

Oh, sorry. I thought you were making a point.

My bad.