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yankee451 said:
Please demonstrate how aluminum sheeting is like a sword, or a bullet. How does this keep intact long enough to transfer it's energy THROUGH, thicker, denser, more massive material?....
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Please explain how a soft lead bullet can go through much harder and stronger steel.
 
LSSBB said:
By having lots of energy.
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That's the funny thing, according to yank's unique interpretation of physics, bullets won't work because lead is so soft compared to much of what bullets go through.

Just as an example of the forces involved in bullets, I was once shooting at a sheet steel sled with my various guns. When I shot it with my 12 gauge (00 buck) I noticed nine holes and a large dent that wasn't there previously. On the ground in front of the sled was the plastic thingie in shotgun shells. So this lightweight, not too aerodynamic (they slow significantly out of the muzzle) chunk of plastic was able to put a significant dent in steel because of its velocity.
 
I propose that Truthers take Chemistry, Physics, and Strength of Materials 101, before they engage in any discussions regarding 9-11. Otherwise they just end up looking like silly fools.
 
Originally Posted by Redwood
Steve, there really is a Union Bank of California. Trust me. I live here in Sunny Southern California. Their offices are real, not holograms. There are plenty of others who can vouch for the reality of AT&T, Verizon, Fuji Bank, Oppenheimer Funds, and the others on the list.

The Trade Center buildings weren't empty. The tenants were real. Maybe besides hiring an engineer to run FEA programs for you, you could hire a private investigator to show that the tenants are real companies.
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yankee451 said:
Real companies don't necessarily mean their offices staffed with real people. That was the point of the article, which you know too much to be bothered to have read. Can't fill a cup that's already full, eh?
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Steve, I did read it. I practically had to arrange a sling to keep my jaw from dropping to the floor, but I did understand it better than you. Your soulmate "Steve WarRan" (are you sure it isn't you?) alleged they did not have a Dun & Bradstreet listing, ergo they aren't real. If they are real, a Dun & Bradstreet listing is irrelevant.

So all these firms are part of the Vast Conspiracy? Tell us what you think are their motivations. What would it take to get all these people to risk imprisonment, vilification, and execution to take part? Usually, it's money, power, sex, ego, or payback. Rarely, it's ideology. What do you think it is for Oppenheimer? How about Union Bank of California or AT&T?

If you are not the "Steve WarRan" of the article, you can take comfort in that you have found a soulmate. You both should seek out professional help ASAP.

You appear to be the victim of obsession. If it's chemical/neurological in origin, it's treatable.
 
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Redwood said:
Steve, I did read it. I practically had to arrange a sling to keep my jaw from dropping to the floor, but I did understand it better than you. Your soulmate "Steve WarRan" (are you sure it isn't you?) alleged they did not have a Dun & Bradstreet listing, ergo they aren't real. If they are real, a Dun & Bradstreet listing is irrelevant.

So all these firms are part of the Vast Conspiracy? Tell us what you think are their motivations. What would it take to get all these people to risk imprisonment, vilification, and execution to take part? Usually, it's money, power, sex, ego, or payback. Rarely, it's ideology. What do you think it is for Oppenheimer? How about Union Bank of California or AT&T?

If you are not the "Steve WarRan" of the article, you can take comfort in that you have found a soulmate. You both should seek out professional help ASAP.

You appear to be the victim of obsession. If it's chemical/neurological in origin, it's treatable.
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You guys really don't understand this stuff do you? All the squirming, all the condescention, it's all compensation isn't it? Wow.
 
JohnG said:
You have demonstrated in virtually every one the 855 (and counting) posts you've made since joining here last month that your claims of expertise are not only false but delusional. You are in the throes of a baseless obsession and are therefore incapable of rational debate.
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Uh huh. I haven't counted your posts.
 
yankee451 said:
For the same reasons the jet can't.

Can you tell me why?
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The waves of Hurricane Sandy were able to break pieces of concrete and split pieces of of wood.

How can water, break concrete and wood?

Must be a conspiracy.
 
ehcks said:
So... your argument is "A projectile can only damage a material stronger than it is if it's not a plane"?
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My argument is to follow the evidence, and is pretty consistent. Yours appears to be...no wait, what is your argument?
 
GlennB said:
The same principle as this:

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It's called impulse.
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Wonder why he doesn't spread his arms out and smack it like a snow-angel. That would be your jet analogy.
 
yankee451 said:
My argument is to follow the evidence, and is pretty consistent. Yours appears to be...no wait, what is your argument?
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Once you declare that the physical evidence is faked, you aren't actually following the evidence.

Someone quote that, if you don't mind.
 
yankee451 said:
You guys really don't understand this stuff do you? All the squirming, all the condescention, it's all compensation isn't it? Wow.
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If you insist harping on our condescension, you might want to learn how to spell it. That red line that appears under the word every time you type it? That is a little something called spellcheck and while it isn't always right, it is usually worth paying attention to. It isn't trying to make you look foolish by correcting you, in fact it is trying to prevent you from looking foolish, in the same way that I am trying to prevent you from looking foolish.

Clearly we are both failing you miserably in that regard.

yankee451 said:
Uh huh. I haven't counted your posts.
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At the risk of appearing condescending, let me help you out:

You have posted 860 posts since joining here on January 31st, 2013, averaging 62.12 posts per day.

I have posted 4,167 posts since joining here on August 10th, 2008, averaging 2.53 posts per day.
 
switchpoint said:
In the words of the late Mayor of New York City, Ed Koch "I can explain it to you, but I can't comprehend it for you".
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Don't worry about me, this is a test to see whether any single one of you knows what you're talking about.
 
JohnG said:
If you insist harping on our condescension, you might want to learn how to spell it. That red line that appears under the word every time you type it? That is a little something called spellcheck and while it isn't always right, it is usually worth paying attention to. It isn't trying to make you look foolish by correcting you, in fact it is trying to prevent you from looking foolish, in the same way that I am trying to prevent you from looking foolish.

Clearly we are both failing you miserably in that regard.




At the risk of appearing condescending, let me help you out:

You have posted 860 posts since joining here on January 31st, 2013, averaging 62.12 posts per day.

I have posted 4,167 posts since joining here on August 10th, 2008, averaging 2.53 posts per day.
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If I used spellcheck on every post it would slow me down and then what would you talk about?
 
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