Moderated The NYPD and Molten Concrete

[Animal]

"google U fail" - are those technical terms like "OMG" and "WTF"?

No, it is short hand for you don't know physics, math, building structures, mechanics of materials, statics, building construction, facilities management, aviation, finance, etc, etc, etc.

 

[beachnut]

I apologize for calling you a liar, but your experiences don't make the evidence change.

My experience help me understand the evidence easier. Your experience have failed to anything but lead you to fantasy.

Few men are as indoctrinated as military men. I mean no offense, but you gotta figure if killing was natural there would be no need for basic training, and PTSD wouldn't be an issue.

You have no idea what basic training is. I never killed anyone. I was never trained to kill anyone. I flew aircraft. You spread lies, what indoctrination did you get to spread fantasy and lies? What basic training did you do to help you make up idiotic claims of missiles? PTSD? You have no knowledge of the military.

Pilot are trained to think for themselves, who trained you to make up fantasy on 911?

I say that because after going through your training you are TRAINED to think a certain way, so how can you be impartial to the evidence when your whole world revolves around the belief the USA are the good guys all the time? Aren't you supposed to defend against domestic enemies too though?

I was not trained to think a certain way. I was trained to fly in the best flight school in the world. We were trained to think better than the other guy, to be the best. You seem to be trained to think up failed fantasy; was that training free like my pilot training, you paid for?
LOL, who do you think stopped Calley's guys from killing more civilians in Vietnam, a pilot; taught to think for himself and trained to be morally right. Unlike you who spreads failed fantasy, with no moral compass, as you disrespect those murdered by terrorists.

You are the domestic enemy, murdering the truth and replacing reality with fantasy. You don't do military, like physics and the truth; backed with a disrespect for higher education, and book learning.

God forbid I could be right, but I think the evidence is there to support missiles being used at the WTC and at Shanksville. As a military man surely you can see the value of having undocumented missiles used at all sites. You'd only need one set of missile jockies to run the whole operation and you'd have plausible deniability. As a military man you know the gash fits the missile hypothesis like a glove, but because your identity revoles around your TRAINING, you ignore the evidence staring you in the face.

Don't worry, God knows you have a fantasy. There is no evidence at the WTC or PA to support the missile fantasy. Wow, you sure do rant and pile on the BS.

The implications keep you from seeing that our own leaders are the enemies.

What implications? You have a delusional fantasy - the only implication is you have a failed fantasy. You sound like McVeigh now.

The only way 9/11 could have occurred is if it was run from the top down, as a military man you certinly must know that.

? Based on a fantasy? lol
As a military man? lol
More BS.

The military are not that incompetent.

The military did not patrol the skies over the US before 911. It would take an hour or more to get an escort or shadow for a hijacked aircraft before 911, domestically. But you don't do military, physic or reality.

They could have stopped those jets pronto, you know this, and the last ten years of invasions and encroachments on civil liberties should serve as proof in the pudding.

What civil liberties are you missing?
You can't back up your rant with a single fact. You are paranoid and you have a missile fantasy.

You and Fetzer get along well because you both have fantasies on 911, and love to manufacture tons of BS. You never studied the military, but you have a lot of BS on the military.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
Who trained you to be paranoid?

 

[Animal]

You are paranoid and you have a missile fantasy.

I cansee where that is going to end......

 

[JohnG]

Steve, there really is a Union Bank of California. Trust me. I live here in Sunny Southern California. Their offices are real, not holograms. There are plenty of others who can vouch for the reality of AT&T, Verizon, Fuji Bank, Oppenheimer Funds, and the others on the list.

The Trade Center buildings weren't empty. The tenants were real. Maybe besides hiring an engineer to run FEA programs for you, you could hire a private investigator to show that the tenants are real companies.

The company I worked for in 2001 had several customers in the WTC. A colleague of mine was on the phone with a longtime friend/business contact who was in the WTC when the first plane hit. The friend said "Something just happened. I'm going to have to call you back".

That was the last anyone heard from him him.

yankee451:
Was my colleague's friend a part of the conspiracy?

Was my colleague a part of the conspiracy?

Am I a part of the conspiracy?

Just how ******* crazy does a conspiracy theory have to get before the CTist takes a breath and says to himself "whoa, maybe I better go back to square one and rethink this"?

 

[TheRedWorm]

The company I worked for in 2001 had several customers in the WTC. A colleague of mine was on the phone with a longtime friend/business contact who was in the WTC when the first plane hit. The friend said "Something just happened. I'm going to have to call you back".

That was the last anyone heard from him him.

yankee451:
Was my colleague's friend a part of the conspiracy?

Was my colleague a part of the conspiracy?

Am I a part of the conspiracy?

Just how ******* crazy does a conspiracy theory have to get before the CTist takes a breath and says to himself "whoa, maybe I better go back to square one and rethink this"?

Re?

 

[yankee451]

No, it is short hand for you don't know physics, math, building structures, mechanics of materials, statics, building construction, facilities management, aviation, finance, etc, etc, etc.

You don't know me, where are you coming up with this.

Aren't you the awesome architect who couldn't tell the difference between aluminum cladding and a steel column?

Aren't you the physics phenom who didn't know the wing would be struck with an equal and opposite reaction?

Give me a list of your buildings so I'll know not to walk into one.

 

[Animal]

You don't know me, where are you coming up with this.

Aren't you the awesome architect who couldn't tell the difference between aluminum cladding and a steel column?

Aren't you the physics phenom who didn't know the wing would be struck with an equal and opposite reaction?

Give me a list of your buildings so I'll know not to walk into one.

<snicker> I know your type all too well. You reject knowledge and embrace fantasy. Your life is full of woo. You are a failure at Google U and your school of hard knocks.

 

[yankee451]

The company I worked for in 2001 had several customers in the WTC. A colleague of mine was on the phone with a longtime friend/business contact who was in the WTC when the first plane hit. The friend said "Something just happened. I'm going to have to call you back".

That was the last anyone heard from him him.

yankee451:
Was my colleague's friend a part of the conspiracy?

Was my colleague a part of the conspiracy?

Am I a part of the conspiracy?

Just how ******* crazy does a conspiracy theory have to get before the CTist takes a breath and says to himself "whoa, maybe I better go back to square one and rethink this"?

Why, do you think they're part of it?

I thought you skeptics were supposed to think with your brains not your emotions.

Can you prove they were there? Survelliance cameras? Timecards? Were they on the SS death index? Did their survivors receive compensation, or was it just their employers? How many non official cover intelligence service agents do you know?

 

[Animal]

Why, do you think they're part of it?

I thought you skeptics were supposed to think with your brains not your emotions.

Can you prove they were there? Survelliance cameras? Timecards? Were they on the SS death index? Did their survivors receive compensation, or was it just their employers? How many non official cover intelligence service agents do you know?

More hand waving by the rejecter of knowledge and embracer of fantasy.

 

[yankee451]

<snicker> I know your type all too well. You reject knowledge and embrace fantasy. Your life is full of woo. You are a failure at Google U and your school of hard knocks.

At least I know a steel column from aluminum cladding, and what an equal and opposite reaction is. Looks like at least one of us can "do physics'.

 

[yankee451]

Steve, there really is a Union Bank of California. Trust me. I live here in Sunny Southern California. Their offices are real, not holograms. There are plenty of others who can vouch for the reality of AT&T, Verizon, Fuji Bank, Oppenheimer Funds, and the others on the list.

The Trade Center buildings weren't empty. The tenants were real. Maybe besides hiring an engineer to run FEA programs for you, you could hire a private investigator to show that the tenants are real companies.

Real companies don't necessarily mean their offices staffed with real people. That was the point of the article, which you know too much to be bothered to have read. Can't fill a cup that's already full, eh?

 

[TJM]

Re?

 

[Animal]

At least I know a steel column from aluminum cladding, and what an equal and opposite reaction is. Looks like at least one of us can "do physics'.

You don't know and you can't. You reject knowledge and embrace fantasy. No amount of your tap dancing will change that fact.

 

[marplots]

Forgive me, I don't want to read the entire thread. Did anyone call the museum and ask about the display?

 

[Courier]

...We’ve all heard the stories about the brave FDNY and the rivers of molten steel. The fire department is presented as hero-victims of 9/11 ais therefore beyond suspicion and reproach, as is their claim of molten steel. Second only to the FDNY on the sympathy scale is the NYPD, but what many people don’t know is not only was steel in the sky turned molten by kerosene on 9/11, but according to the NYPD, it also melted concrete a thousand feet below and not only that but after it cooled, it solidified back into concrete, encasing firearms therein....

A thousand feet below?

Molten concrete cooled and encased firearms?

What sort of fantasy garbage is this?

 

[Animal]

A thousand feet below?

Molten concrete cooled and encased firearms?

What sort of fantasy garbage is this?

A troofer flinging woo where ever he can in the hopes that something sticks.

 

[Courier]

A troofer flinging woo where ever he can in the hopes that something sticks.

I'd love to see these photos of the FDNY 1,000 ft. below ground level.

I don't think the digging for the 2nd Ave. Subway even goes down that far.

 

[yankee451]

I'd love to see these photos of the FDNY 1,000 ft. below ground level.

I don't think the digging for the 2nd Ave. Subway even goes down that far.

If the fires in the sky were a thousand feet up, the molten concrete was a thousand feet down.

So, are you here to try to explain how the concrete melted, turned to lava and then back to concrete, aggregate and all without melting the guns? Lemme guess, you're going to wave-off the MUSEUM EXHIBIT that indoctrinated school children as a simple mistake. The kind of mistake academics make.

Why would the police lie like that?

Why would firefighters claim the steel ran like lava from a volcano?

Why would their stories match with the truth movment, when there never were such hot fires?

Are you going to tell me the USGS maps are accurate? What caused the ground to be 1000 kelvin many days after 9/11?

No, you're not here to discuss any of that.

 

[JohnG]

Why, do you think they're part of it?

I thought you skeptics were supposed to think with your brains not your emotions.

Can you prove they were there? Survelliance cameras? Timecards? Were they on the SS death index? Did their survivors receive compensation, or was it just their employers? How many non official cover intelligence service agents do you know?

And if I did somehow manage to provide all this information you'd simply say it was all faked and any witnesses were liars (or worse), and what's more you know you would dismiss it out of hand, so why even bother asking for it? You think after all your "years of hard work and obsessive research" into this staggeringly stupid "theory" of yours that a box full of documents sent to you from a stranger on the internet is going lead to some life-changing epiphany on your part? Not bloody likely.

Why are you even here? You average writing over 63 posts a day and are (presumably) reading countless more posts from others at all hours of the day and night. Why is this a good use of your time? You clearly made your mind up about 9/11 years ago and certainly aren't here to accept criticism. Furthermore you have shown nothing but disdain and absolute contempt for anyone with actual expertise on the subject at hand. For God's sake, you have a Crash Investigator here and all you can seem to do is insult him, question his credentials and accuse him of being some brainwashed government stooge.

To quote Joseph Welch, have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?

 

[yankee451]

Forgive me, I don't want to read the entire thread. Did anyone call the museum and ask about the display?

I have called but only reached a recording. After this much time it would be tricky to get any answers without a visit anyway. It's on my list of tourist attractions in NYC though. Some day.

At least we know where the "hot fires" story came from.