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WTC Dust said:
In your estimation, was there any large amount of fuel that wasn't office furnishings? If so, what do you think it was?
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9170598&postcount=809

Most of the stuff I listed were material known to have been in the offices and stores in the Towers. This should not be surprising, since the buildings were office-buildings afterall. So, we had enormous amounts of such material, and wood, and various chemicals, and oil, and fuel etc. Yet you still handwave it away as a minor/trivial thing?
 
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WTC Dust said:
In your estimation, was there any large amount of fuel that wasn't office furnishings? If so, what do you think it was?
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Really? And who makes the claim they are a scientist and acts like a grade school asking questions a scientist can answer? Who is the scientist?

Plastic burning has 7 to 14 times more energy than TNT.
Wood more energy than TNT.
Paper has more energy, etc..
What is stuff you find in the office? The office materials are vast, and had the heat energy of over 15,000 TONS of TNT.

Over 15,000 TONS of TNT in heat energy - who needs large amounts of fuel that was not office furnishing when the office furnishing had the heat energy of 15,000 TONS of TNT.
Anyone do the math? But if you need some fuel, then cars are parked at the WTC complex - did you think before you asked a silly question a scientist could answer? Any scientist out there?

Gasoline 10 times. The cars parked in the WTC complex... oops, scientist.

Ignore reality and fire, bring out the no plane lies and other fantasy. Unable to comprehend 220 acres of office space contents burning for months. Sure, make up wild and crazy claims, hallucinations about a terrorist event.

Ignoring the energy in an office on fire; desks, paper, wood, plastic, etc, is silly. Your claims offer zero insight on 911 issues. Who is the scientist?

The OP is about yankee451's rant against police and fire fighters. He claims the police and fire fighters made up lies. He has failed; like your no plane claims.
 
Kindly get back to the topic of the thread, please. Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
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Well, initially, I left all of the off topic stuff in place and asked nicely that folks return to the topic of the thread but it appears that more is required to get some of the participants in this thread back on topic. Therefore, this thread is being closed until such time as a Moderator has the time to clean it up and issue infractions and such, as required.
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yankee451 said:
I love this clip, its often provided as proof that the ground was super-hot, but it is actually proof of a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSmiaXaNyoc
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The video talks about fires... so fires going for weeks in WTC debris is not a lie. What is the point of trying to make 9/11 clean up crews liars when we can see steam and the evidence for fire; not to mention testimony in the video and on record.

The video posted shows evidence of fire, and thus there are hot spots. Fires burned in the WTC debris for weeks. With the contents of 220 floors of office material, the fires spread over 19 acres were able to burn for weeks. Like our wood stoves, where we cut off air to and keep a simple charge of wood burning for 12 hours, the WTC fires burned under debris for weeks, and were hot. Exaggerating with super-hot, does not make a fire less or more hot. As in our wood stoves, the fires could reach over 1400 F for under debris; I would say 1400 is super hot if you happen to get a good hold on the 1400 F debris.

There was not melted steel and molten concrete. How does calling clean up workers liars help a point not made?
 
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