Why church is so dangerous !!!

Davidjayjordan said:
Now back to the topic.. churches are dangerous as it makes grou[pies out of individuals and doesn;t allow personal freedom and choice. They exchange their identity for the supposed greater gratification of a group or DISCUSSION BOAR MEMBERSHIP. This is why churchies turn into mobs where they are so easily manipulated and easily used.

They are afraid to speak up about the intended atrocities of those getting them to repeat the phrases like 'Crucify Him'. The mob loses their conscience in the rapture of joint participation, and no longer think themselves RESPONSIBLE.

They tell each other crucifixion is deserved, crucifixion is funny and humoress. And none of the mob or church congregation will go against what is what they would NOT do if in an isolated individualistic encounter.
And yet the mob mentality takes over when they are in groups or discussion boards. For a church system is any system that relies on group ideals, and group FAITH to excuse what they do as individuals.

SEE Anti-Conspiracy theorists are groupies. (Correction that thread was deleted)
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So, no discussion, no response to all of the points made to date? You are just here to lecture?

It's boring and trite DJJ.
 
RandFan said:
So, no discussion, no response to all of the points made to date? You are just here to lecture?

It's boring and trite DJJ.
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No, you can have fun with djj. Just read his posts like it was a 5 year old whining to get your attention. It's amazing how it fits! Also, imagine he's Barney Fife for some of them. Somehow, he seems to be like that, too. Oh, no, Barney at five! That's who djj really is! Aunt Bea isn't going to like this!
 
JimBenArm said:
No, you can have fun with djj. Just read his posts like it was a 5 year old whining to get your attention. It's amazing how it fits! Also, imagine he's Barney Fife for some of them. Somehow, he seems to be like that, too. Oh, no, Barney at five! That's who djj really is! Aunt Bea isn't going to like this!
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:D Fair enough.

If he doesn't care enough to engage in a reasoned discussion then he shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
This is why churchies turn into mobs where they are so easily manipulated and easily used.
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I thought that they were easily manipulated by people like yourself because of an unwillingness or inability to investigate and see the falsehood of the ridiculous claims people like you make.

You rightly point out that religious dogma can be a very dangerous thing. But at the head of those dogmatic religious groups are people who demand to be viewed as the arbiters of Truth. People who declare everything that contradicts them to be false. People who will not discuss an issue but rather demand that everyone involved must agree with them. People who ignore evidence that does not support their claims. Sound familiar?
 
RandFan said:
So, no discussion, no response to all of the points made to date? You are just here to lecture?

It's boring and trite DJJ.
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He may use the word "discuss", but he will only accept agreement as "discussion". Like so many other preachers he's just groovin' on his own words.
 
The main problem with religion is that there are so many know-it-alls. They give all religions a bad name.

M.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Now back to the topic.. churches are dangerous as it makes grou[pies out of individuals and doesn;t allow personal freedom and choice. They exchange their identity for the supposed greater gratification of a group or DISCUSSION BOAR MEMBERSHIP. This is why churchies turn into mobs where they are so easily manipulated and easily used.

They are afraid to speak up about the intended atrocities of those getting them to repeat the phrases like 'Crucify Him'. The mob loses their conscience in the rapture of joint participation, and no longer think themselves RESPONSIBLE.

They tell each other crucifixion is deserved, crucifixion is funny and humoress. And none of the mob or church congregation will go against what is what they would NOT do if in an isolated individualistic encounter.
And yet the mob mentality takes over when they are in groups or discussion boards. For a church system is any system that relies on group ideals, and group FAITH to excuse what they do as individuals.

SEE Anti-Conspiracy theorists are groupies. (Correction that thread was deleted)
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Sincere responders can write me at [email protected] or visit our website at http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/index.html
Talk to you later....
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Which thread was deleted? Do you mean this thread? http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79288 Or this thread? http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79364 You are aware that posters here have dealt with sites that have deleted posts and know how to show other posters that posts on other boards have been deleted? This means that when you pretend it has happened to you here, but don't provide any actual evidence that your posts have been deleted, we think that you are lying about it. (You do realize that we are not just calling you a liar as a pejorative? We actually pointing out the lies that you are telling? The way you consistantly called me a liar before I ever said anything that suggested precision or accuracy leads me to believe that you mainly use the word to ridicule others. But I assure this is not how we are using it.

Why do you still have that sig line? Most people would just assume because of your postings here that you have nothing useful to say in private. Why would someone who just posts gibberish over and over and refuses to talk with anyone have something useful to say in private? And even if we really don't know, don't you realize that we can actually e mail you and then find out for ourselves? Your ruse is not fooling anybody here. Just because people have rejected you in the past doesn't mean that you need to cry out for that rejection. If you attempt to live a normal, productive life I'm sure that you can do it. You just have to stay with it and it you participate in a few social groups I'm sure some people will take a liking to you and you can make some real friends for once. We all wish the best for you.
 
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kitakaze said:
Originally Posted by Foster Zygote
To show us your sincerity and honesty with yourself in your quest for honest, truthful answerers could you answer a few simple questions for me?

1. Have you corrected, or are you correcting, the many computational errors in the math that you've based many of your claims on?

2. Have you amended your website with the correct distance to the moon?

3. Have you honestly acknowledged to yourself that you prophesied events that failed to occur so you changed the dates to move the events from the past to the future once more?
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Shall we take that as a 'no'?
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Still waiting, DJJ.
 
I won;t change what was proven to be right and confirmed by Braun and NASA and the very standard of sacred geometry and the mystery schools ... and just one of the basics of why 432 hertz is sooooo important as the harmonic.

SEE 432 thread on the Science Board

or start HERE...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/MoonTime216.html

Now back to the topic of why churches like this are soooo dangerous and why they are used to stop the passing on and encouragement of truth seeking. And hence you will know why this forum exists. It is not for entertainment purposes or merely a church setting for athiests and evolutionists to give them nice pews.

Think darn-ya's think
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I won;t change what was proven to be right and confirmed by Braun and NASA and the very standard of sacred geometry and the mystery schools ... and just one of the basics of why 432 hertz is sooooo important as the harmonic.
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Meaning, you still have no idea how far apart the moon and earth are. Hey, why did you change your end-times dates? I am sure Foster Zygote would love to hear your answer.

Think darn-ya's think
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Ditto.

Oh, and why were you wrong about the Iran conflict escalating right about now?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I won;t change what was proven to be right and confirmed by Braun and NASA and the very standard of sacred geometry and the mystery schools ... and just one of the basics of why 432 hertz is sooooo important as the harmonic.
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Is this an admission that your figures are incorrect? If the errors make no difference then why do you claim that the numbers involved are so important to your sacred harmonies?

SEE 432 thread on the Science Board
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Why? So we can again see that the moon is not 216,000 miles from the Earth?

or start HERE...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/MoonTime216.html
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How will looking at your errors one more time prove anything other than that you still have not corrected information that you know to be incorrect? Feel free to make another nuisance report to the mods if it helps feed your persecution complex, but Hokulele is right. It can be factually demonstrated that you are a liar.

Now back to the topic of why churches like this are soooo dangerous and why they are used to stop the passing on and encouragement of truth seeking. And hence you will know why this forum exists. It is not for entertainment purposes or merely a church setting for athiests and evolutionists to give them nice pews.
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The irony is that forums like this one are dangerous to your ideas because the sorts who frequent forums like this one are inclined to actually examine the window dressing you use to try and tart up your religious dogma and point out that there is no logic or consistency to it.

Think darn-ya's think
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We think you're full of it.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
SEE Anti-Conspiracy theorists are groupies. (Correction that thread was deleted)
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Do you know the difference between "moved to abandon all hope" and "deleted?"

Now back to the topic, your posts are getting kind of repetitive. Do you have anything new to add, or are you going to keep spamming out the same nonsense?
 
Well, perhaps David has a point. To call him a lying false prophet is not only to put him in the wrong category, to the dishonor of actual prophets, should there exist any such, but also to suggest that his dribblings are either sane or intelligent enough to be called something as intentional and controllable as lies. I therefore suggest we replace morally prescriptive term "lying false prophet" with " delusionally disingenuous prophetaster." I mean, it's pretty clear the poor fellow can't help himself.
 
Oh, look. You got DavidJayJordan on your shoes! Get a stick, and we'll try to clean it off.
 
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