Why church is so dangerous !!!

[bruto]

Now BRUTO, don't get heated up, learn to count to ten, or in your case maybe a hundred before posting...

That was hardly a heated response on my part, especially compared to some others, to which you have not responded. I didn't even bother in that one to call you a condescending prat, a false prophet, a fool, or a tool of the Prince of Lies, all of which I have done in the past, and undoubtedly will again.

the Lord never punishes anyone for anything they don't deserve. people choose and get what they deserve and the Lord doesn;t break their rights and priviledges to do so. People just simply reap what they sow. What they send around, comes back to them.

And what is the agency by which this reaping is accomplished?

If people don't want the Lord and His LOVE, they can go elsewhere, no problem.

No problem? See above, it appears you are contradicting yourself. Do you or do you not "reap what you sow?"

So if you can;t understand love, learn what love is, and stop your tirades about what you obviously don't understand.

Oops, there you go being an arrogant prat again. Who the hell are you to say what I understand and don't? Are you really such a pompous fool that you cannot grasp the possibility that it is possible for an intelligent and informed person to disagree with your arguments?

Go beyond the law that was created for lawbreakers, to the spirit that controls our lifes. OUR MOTIVATIONS. When you understand yourself, then you can start to understand others, and then start to understand what spirit or principles have to be in our hearts to work together for good.

I would take that to mean that one should behave according to reason and conscience, in other words, taking responsibility for one's actions, something that can be done by nonbelievers, atheists, blasphemers, as well as intelligent people of any faith. You're the one who denies this.

But just because you are messed up spiritually and incoherant, in no way reflects on the Lord's PRINCIPLES.

I am in no way arguing the Lord's principles. I'm arguing against your continual redefinition of terms, such as "taking responsibility," to mean something other than what they ought to.

Rand, it would take sooooo long to straighten you out. But at least you have dropped your head to the gun parallel..... as that is the way governments work to put fear and tembling into their citizenry so they will believe the lies told them and just follow the status quo.

SEE True Skeptics thread on the Conspiracy Board

See that thread for another shining example of DJJ's habitual argument by redefinition.

 

[T'ai Chi]

Oh, And I still haven't been hit by lightning despite a properly predicted* thunderstorm last night.

*You know, through science.

I think Sagan prediceted a nuclear winter. The Drake equation predicts anywhere from 0 to trillions of planets with life. String theory predicts umpteen dimensions out there. All of this, you know, through science.

Output is only as good as its input.

 

[Hokulele]

... and stop your tirades about what you obviously don't understand.

 

[Foster Zygote]

JSFisher,

Yes, I know its the most foolish discussion board I have ever been on, but still it is messmerizing to try and figure out why such seeemingly intelligent people can so lose control and rationality and be so motivated by their congregational setting HERE.

Amazing

More foolish than the one in which you and "Dieselfueled" call one another false prophets?

 

[Foster Zygote]

I think Sagan prediceted a nuclear winter.

You think wrongly. Sagan warned of the devastation that even a limited nuclear exchange would cause to the whole planet.
He wrote:

Fortunately, it is not yet too late. We can safeguard the planetary civilization and the human family if we so choose. There is no more important or more urgent issue.

So if you are implying that Sagan made a failed prediction of nuclear winter in the same way that Djj made a failed prediction of the "end-times" then you are mistaken.

The Drake equation predicts anywhere from 0 to trillions of planets with life.

The Drake Equation is not an hypothesis. It does not make a prediction. It states the data that we would need to have in order to determine the number of planets with life, let alone intelligent life. As most of that data is not presently known then the possible product of the Drake equation ranges from one to gazillions. The possibility that the product would be zero is demonstrably false. Well false as far as life is concerned. Intelligent life is still debatable.

String theory predicts umpteen dimensions out there. All of this, you know, through science.

Last I heard, the best current theories only predict eleven dimensions. Are you making an argument from personal incredulity?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Nominated. And just for reference: I've been to several neo-pagan/witchcraft boards as well. And DJJ would have been torn a new one there as well.

Actually a lot of them are rather cool individuals. And I am still a member there, but they are a bit shy and reticient and rather in-experienced, probably due to their isolation from each other.

They have some good ideas, they just need the Lord to focus their attentions and magic. But some will make it.

At least many of them are searching. I can't say that about many here.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

That was hardly a heated response on my part, especially compared to some others, to which you have not responded. I didn't even bother in that one to call you a condescending prat, a false prophet, a fool, or a tool of the Prince of Lies, all of which I have done in the past, and undoubtedly will again.

There you go again, name calling and slandering. Bruto.

Remember the rules, attack the message not the messenger.

 

[RandFan]

I can't say that about many here.

Again with the personal attacks. What you think about us is not material to anything. Do you have an argument? A point?

 

[RandFan]

There you go again, name calling and slandering. Bruto.

Remember the rules, attack the message not the messenger.

Wow, you come here attack us. Call us names and then complain that we call you names.

 

[kitakaze]

Originally Posted by Foster Zygote
To show us your sincerity and honesty with yourself in your quest for honest, truthful answerers could you answer a few simple questions for me?

1. Have you corrected, or are you correcting, the many computational errors in the math that you've based many of your claims on?

2. Have you amended your website with the correct distance to the moon?

3. Have you honestly acknowledged to yourself that you prophesied events that failed to occur so you changed the dates to move the events from the past to the future once more?

DJJ, I was wondering if you had any intention to address the questions above.

Shall we take that as a 'no'?

 

[JimBenArm]

There you go again, name calling and slandering. Bruto.

Remember the rules, attack the message not the messenger.

 

[Elizabeth I]

That was hardly a heated response on my part, especially compared to some others, to which you have not responded. I didn't even bother in that one to call you a condescending prat, a false prophet, a fool, or a tool of the Prince of Lies, all of which I have done in the past, and undoubtedly will again.

[bolding mine]

There you go again, name calling and slandering. Bruto.

Remember the rules, attack the message not the messenger.

I think you misread, djj. Bruto specifically said he DID NOT call you any of those things (although he didn't rule out the possibility in the future.)

 

[The Grave]

Reap what you sow...

Now BRUTO, don't get heated up, learn to count to ten, or in your case maybe a hundred before posting...

I think advice from a faither is never a good thing.

the Lord never punishes anyone for anything they don't deserve. people choose and get what they deserve and the Lord doesn;t break their rights and priviledges to do so. People just simply reap what they sow. What they send around, comes back to them.

The IT needs some well earned punishing, for causing all this misery in this world...IT creates everything doesn't IT? QED.

I was born a cripple. Did I CHOOSE it? Nope. So is ti punishment? Nope. Old fashioned, crazy-nut ideas like that put people down, sink them into depressing tit-for-tat accusations of responsibility for non-existent crimes against IT.

Pathetic!

This message is truly pathetic! "Coming back around @ ya!"

{No mention of the messenger, you'll notice!}

If people don't want the Lord and His LOVE, they can go elsewhere, no problem.


Except that if they do, they'll all rot in HELL, burning and screaming for all of eternity so that their skin will boil & blister, their wickedness will ooze forth out of the pustules of their charred bodies!

So if you can;t understand love, learn what love is, and stop your tirades about what you obviously don't understand.

LOVE is: causing suffering to all of mankind in the name of IT. Racism, wife-beating, child abuse, brain washing & indoctrination of weak minded, helpless people, who's only fault is to be ignorant of scientific truth.

And give me strength, oh LORD DAWKINS-the great one, to fight the good fight in the name of the PROPHET - Darwin - to see truth prevail over the evil of the faither!

Go beyond the law that was created for lawbreakers, to the spirit that controls our lifes. OUR MOTIVATIONS. When you understand yourself, then you can start to understand others, and then start to understand what spirit or principles have to be in our hearts to work together for good.

But just because you are messed up spiritually and incoherant, in no way reflects on the Lord's PRINCIPLES.

Yeah! Just because we all suck, but IT is great, let's clap our hands and shout halleyupyajumper! With cheesy grins from ear-to-ear; 'COS WE'RE GOING TO hEAVEN, yee ha!

But since any sane, coherent member of the higher mammals {apes} can quite plainly see there is no such thing as a god or a spirit...then I think we'll all come to realise that we're: FOOD FOR THE WORMS!

Rand, it would take sooooo long to straighten you out. But at least you have dropped your head to the gun parallel..... as that is the way governments work to put fear and tembling into their citizenry so they will believe the lies told them and just follow the status quo.

Replace "governments" with "religions" and you've just about got the right idea; for once.

SEE True Skeptics thread on the Conspiracy Board

As I say, this message is under attack {as much for spelling as content}, not the messenger.

Griff...

 

[baskett_case]

Has anyone mentioned that Jesus was a Jew? WHY would he found churches? Wouldn't he form a Halakha school of interpretation, as he was interpreting the Hebrew scriptures? He didn't write the New Testament, nor authorize it to be written.

As a Christ-killer myself, I approve this thread!

 

[The_Fire]

Actually a lot of them are rather cool individuals. And I am still a member there, but they are a bit shy and reticient and rather in-experienced, probably due to their isolation from each other.

They have some good ideas, they just need the Lord to focus their attentions and magic. But some will make it.

At least many of them are searching. I can't say that about many here.

Or maybe they are just ignoring you.

BTW: Still here and your god is still a child murdering, stalking SOB.

 

[The_Fire]

Hm...Still not hit by lightning...Must think of better blasphemy. Or could it be that DJJ's God simply doesn't exist or is a weak old man?

 

[Kochanski]

Funny, his god didn't seem to have a problem hitting the giant jesus statue with lightning. Guess you must be doing something right, Fire

 

[The_Fire]

Funny, his god didn't seem to have a problem hitting the giant jesus statue with lightning. Guess you must be doing something right, Fire

Ya think? There be possibilities in this. Now how to market it.......

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Now back to the topic.. churches are dangerous as it makes grou[pies out of individuals and doesn;t allow personal freedom and choice. They exchange their identity for the supposed greater gratification of a group or DISCUSSION BOAR MEMBERSHIP. This is why churchies turn into mobs where they are so easily manipulated and easily used.

They are afraid to speak up about the intended atrocities of those getting them to repeat the phrases like 'Crucify Him'. The mob loses their conscience in the rapture of joint participation, and no longer think themselves RESPONSIBLE.

They tell each other crucifixion is deserved, crucifixion is funny and humoress. And none of the mob or church congregation will go against what is what they would NOT do if in an isolated individualistic encounter.
And yet the mob mentality takes over when they are in groups or discussion boards. For a church system is any system that relies on group ideals, and group FAITH to excuse what they do as individuals.

SEE Anti-Conspiracy theorists are groupies. (Correction that thread was deleted)

 

[jsfisher]

Now back to the topic.. churches are dangerous as it makes grou[pies out of individuals and doesn;t allow personal freedom and choice. They exchange their identity for the supposed greater gratification of a group or DISCUSSION BOAR MEMBERSHIP. This is why churchies turn into mobs where they are so easily manipulated and easily used.

They are afraid to speak up about the intended atrocities of those getting them to repeat the phrases like 'Crucify Him'. The mob loses their conscience in the rapture of joint participation, and no longer think themselves RESPONSIBLE.

They tell each other crucifixion is deserved, crucifixion is funny and humoress. And none of the mob or church congregation will go against what is what they would NOT do if in an isolated individualistic encounter.
And yet the mob mentality takes over when they are in groups or discussion boards. For a church system is any system that relies on group ideals, and group FAITH to excuse what they do as individuals.

SEE Anti-Conspiracy theorists are groupies. (Correction that thread was deleted)

Well back, Davidjayjordan. During your absence, did you learn anything new you'd care to share? Your baseless fabrications that you continue to recycle are rather stale.