Why church is so dangerous !!!

[Davidjayjordan]

Randfan is really not worth cmmunicating with as can be noted.

So I avoid the devoid til they become rational and cool down.

Some are doing this, some are not.

Choices, choices, choices....

We all have them and we all make them.

Hope you make better ones ?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Athiests and all have opinions and try to persuade others to follow their way of thinking. Hence all are missionaries including Randfan

Some promote something, some promote nothing and false skepticism like some athiests do.

[SIZE=-1]We are all teachers, athough some of us might consider ourselves anything but teachers, the truth is we areALL teachers. For whether we act like a teacher or post like a teacher or talk like ateacher it matters not, for we are still teachers in the Lord's eyes. For both by ouractions and lack of actions, both by our words or by our lack of words
we are being an example to others and are therefore in a very true sense teaching others how to act ornot act, how to speak or keep silent. We are all teachers !!

But with the Lord who is recording what we know and what we do with what we know in His accounting books, we are responsible for what we teach to others. Yet as babes in Christ we seem more responsible and more aware of this fact than when we get older in the Lord. For early on, we are self-driven to share what we know. The thrill of knowing
the Lord hits us and we want to share with the whole world despite our so called short-comings. Even if we only know John 3:16 We want to teach it to others.

So why should this passion lessen with time? Is it because we have stopped learning from the Lord and receiving from the Lord? Is it because we have gotten out of practice sharing what we know with other? Have we lost that teaching inspiration that Salvation first gave us? Are we more comfortable, not sharing than we are with sharing? The
questions are endless but really should be answered individually, and personally with the Lord. Why, because He does make us responsible for BOTH what we know, OR could have known……. how many talents we have or how many talents we could have acquired. (Read Mathew 25: 12-46 )

I mean the world teaches and indoctrinates us with propaganda and its worldliness and unbelief from our births and more so through our schooling years and even beyond and if we sit back and do nothing and share nothing and keep silent in the face of this onslaught, then the responsibility and quilt is ours, because we didn’t teach others spiritually.

This isn't a popular thing to say, but we are RESPONSIBLE for our actions or our in-actions. If we aren't moving forward as individuals, then surely we are moving backwards. We may not be able to move the world in a day or a week or a month, but surely we do have to get our engines started so that the Lord's sheep can be reached.

And similarly prophetically speaking, things aren't going to get easier for us, and we are NOT going to get magical faith to start sharing more because the times are more difficult. So shouldn't we all try to do as much as we can for the Lord right now and not put things off too far into the future. Can we procrastinate even witnessing and teaching in the far realms of dreamland or should we start with little efforts here and now.

Surely the truth is that we are ALL teachers and all our combined knowledge of the Lord needs to be used to reach the Lord's sheep in the End-Time. All of us have positive things we can pass on to others, even if we know only one verse, it can be more than a non-Christian knows and it might be the exact time they need it and will receive it. So
why not teach it.

In His Service

Jay (Jordan Fisherman)
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[Hokulele]

Some promote something, some promote nothing and false skepticism like some athiests do.

Since three seems to be one of your magic numbers, I tell you three times:

Atheists do not promote nothing.
Atheists do not promote nothing.
Atheists do not promote nothing.

Atheists promote no god, but we also promote things like critical thinking, scientific methodology, the benefits of exercise, and medically proven health treatments. Some of us even promote things like good books, good web-sites (NOT yours), and fun movies.

If you can call me a false skeptic, I can call you a false prophet, you false prophet.

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[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]If we aren't moving forward as individuals, then surely we are moving backwards.[/SIZE]

And there are times when you should back up and try something different. Especially when you are wrong. Define barycenter.

 

[RandFan]

Not a missionary
Not a religion of nothingness

Why would you use those terms that way? A missionary tries to convert people to their religion. Randfan is not attempting to convert anyone. Randfan is bringing up some points that you could address.

That's what I hate the most. Trying to converse about actual religion is an act of a missionary for the religion of nothingness? That's warped logic if I ever heard it.

You started this thread, so discuss "stuff" with Randfan, or at least don't accuse Randfan of something like being a "missionary".

Thanks Eos.

 

[RandFan]

Randfan is really not worth cmmunicating with as can be noted.

So I avoid the devoid til they become rational and cool down.

Some are doing this, some are not.

Choices, choices, choices....

We all have them and we all make them.

Hope you make better ones ?

Noted by what? What do you mean "cool down"?

Your actions demonstrate that you are unwilling to discuss or debate in a meaningful manner.

So why do you think anyone would take you seriously?

 

[Miss Anthrope]

To say that atheists are missionaries is ridiculous. When was the last time someone knocked on your door asking "Have you ever thought about abandoning Jesus?". Anyone? Anyone?

 

[RandFan]

Athiests and all have opinions and try to persuade others to follow their way of thinking. Hence all are missionaries including Randfan

Actually, many of us are just individuals here to find the truth. I came here as a Deist and argued for inteligent design and Dualism.

It was the willingness to discuss, debate and consider the arguments that led me to where I am today.

Like most Muslims, Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, etc., you think you know the truth so you will not listen to arguments and you will not participate in discussion. You just arrogantly tell us what you think the truth is.

Perhaps there are unreasonable people on this forum who are willing to follow you without justification but I sincerely doubt there are many if any.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Actually, many of us are just individuals here to find the truth. I came here as a Deist and argued for inteligent design and Dualism.

It was the willingness to discuss, debate and consider the arguments that led me to where I am today.

Like most Muslims, Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, etc., you think you know the truth so you will not listen to arguments and you will not participate in discussion. You just arrogantly tell us what you think the truth is.

Perhaps there are unreasonable people on this forum who are willing to follow you without justification but I sincerely doubt there are many if any.

Djj has demonstrated that he has no interest in the ideas of others. He's just here to groove on his own words. Ironically, such people are at the heart of nearly every one of the churches he finds so dangerous.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Since three seems to be one of your magic numbers, I tell you three times:

Atheists do not promote nothing.
Atheists do not promote nothing.
Atheists do not promote nothing.

Atheists promote no god, but we also promote things like critical thinking, scientific methodology, the benefits of exercise, and medically proven health treatments. Some of us even promote things like good books, good web-sites (NOT yours), and fun movies.

If you can call me a false skeptic, I can call you a false prophet, you false prophet.

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Actually I define what false skeptic characteristics are, yet faklse skeptics can change and become true skeptics by searcvhing for evidence and searching for real answers rather than believing no answers and exist, and so resort to just popular opinions like judging good and bad movies etc...

This because they usually have no standards of judgment. if they had they would become true skrptics and have standards or which they could defend. For their only standard seems to be it has to visable and in their hands...

So Hok, if you deem yourself a false skeptic, I won't argue with you.

As for athiests and their religion that there can not be a god greater than themselves. Who am I to tell a bunch of athiestic religionists, there is a god, when they have so much FAITH and HOPE that there can not be a god.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Djj has demonstrated that he has no interest in the ideas of others. He's just here to groove on his own words. Ironically, such people are at the heart of nearly every one of the churches he finds so dangerous.

Actually Foster, I am a live and let live kind of guy who just believes in choice without force and intimidation, this unlike the evolutionists and athiests that demand adherance to their theories.

For like the dangerous church people, evolutionists and athiests do become dangerous when they gather together in groups and can not intimidate others into believeing their dogma. They get frustrated and threatening after their name calling and slurs and slanders don't produce their desired conversions.

But good thing there are none of those types HERE, Right Foster ? For those churchies are dangerous ..... and Jesus knew so, and yet challenged them because the people were intimidated and bound by them. This is why the Lord answered the questions of the scribes and pharisees. These two religionists types didn;t want answers they just hoped Jesus would err in his replies, so they could judge Him and accuse Him before the people. And yet Jesus, the hero of life, went on to confound them and liberate the people.

We certainly aren;t Jesus, and I certainly am not, but it is a great lesson to learn about the religionists who try to intimidate and ask questions they don;t want answers too. They are prime examples of false skeptics.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

And interestingly, they mis-interpreted his words, to falsely accuse him of being anti government and a terrorist threat to Rome.

He said, destroy this temple and in three days I shall raise it up. They in their dementia and unspirituality, deemed the Temple the building on the Mount, whereas Jesus meant the temple of His BODY.

So Yes, False skeptics are always looking to twist words and answers to accuse the Lord and the Lord's people.

They don;t understand the difference between the physical and spiritual and are so dead in mind and heart, they miss almost everything the Lord said, and what He has gotten written down.


But such is life, they haven't changed one iota.

Let me tell you about some of my encounters not with athiestic religionists but with Christian self righteous religionists. They are as bad as the atheists if not worse.

 

[Grimoire]

This because they usually have no standards of judgment. if they had they would become true skrptics and have standards or which they could defend.

Do you consider yourself a true skrptic? If so, could you explain how 33.17 times 3 and 1/3 is exactly 111? After all, a true skrptic would correct any mistakes he made, since he has a high standard of judgment...

Thanks.

 

[slingblade]

Oh, good. I'm not a false skeptic. I'm so relieved.

As to the rest: there can be a god. I am not one. I don't think there is one. I don't think there's more than one. I'm not going to act as if there is one. You can't make me act as if there is one.

You are free to label me any way you want to. I hope you aren't counting on it hurting me, though, or shocking me out of my delusion!

See, I've been called much worse names by much better people than you. And those haven't managed to do much, either.

(edit: which see, below.)

 

[Hokulele]

So Hok, if you deem yourself a false skeptic, I won't argue with you.

I do not deem myself a false skeptic (whatever on earth that may be), and I do deem you a false prophet, as you have already admitted that your 2002 prophecy was wrong. The bible isn't a three strikes and you are out type of reference. Once you are wrong, you are labeled a false prophet. It does not matter who made the mistake, false prophecy is false prophecy.

You don't argue with me. You ignore my questions, you refuse to meet my challenges, and you have yet to offer a defensible position.

You challenged me to explain how sex could evolve. I did, so now it's your turn. Define barycenter. No links.

 

[Hokulele]

As to the rest: there can be a god. I am not one.

Oh darn, I was all set to convert to slingbladism. I even had my tithings ready.

 

[slingblade]

Paypal okay?

 

[Hokulele]

Paypal okay?

Well, does PayPal accept double-fudge, macadamia nut brownies?

 

[slingblade]

Wait, aren't you supposed to be worshiping me? Offerings like that rather inspire the reverse!

 

[Hokulele]

How about we have a religion where anyone who brings something good to the table is worshipped according to the value of their donation? You can provide the moral guidance, I will provide the brownies. Any other offers out there?

 

[Katana]

How about we have a religion where anyone who brings something good to the table is worshipped according to the value of their donation? You can provide the moral guidance, I will provide the brownies. Any other offers out there?

I'm a whiz with pork chops. Interested?