What is paranormal in Homeopathy

[Dr. MAS]

And yes, it can actually vary slightly from drop to drop since we can never be sure the solute is completely evenly distributed in the solvent. But for all practical purposes the ratio is 1:100.

I really appreciate your courageous answer. You are genius.

Let’s wait for the other hoax scholars to join us. They are still lingering behind and want to read my reaction. Let's wait for them to join.

I think the problem is near to solve.

 

[Dr. MAS]

At last he's learnt how to use the "quotes" tag! So at least one person has learnt something from this thread.

This is my style. What ever I would like.....

 

[Jocce]

I really appreciate your courageous answer. You are genius.

Let’s wait for the other hoax scholars to join us. They are still lingering behind and want to read my reaction. Let's wait for them to join.

I think the problem is near to solve.

No wonder you got all those titles if the answer impresses you. Doesn't take much to get them huh? Please don't wait for everyone to answer. 10 pages of "what he said" is a waste of bandwidth and whatever substance there is in this thread becomes as diluted as one of your remedies. And as beneficial to ones health as one.

 

[Kumar]

I really appreciate your courageous answer. You are genius.

Let’s wait for the other hoax scholars to join us. They are still lingering behind and want to read my reaction. Let's wait for them to join.

I think the problem is near to solve.

Hello Dr. Mas,

You take long time to solve, so mostly will be solving properly. In consideration of this much involvements, how many patients you treat in a day alongwith doing other duties?

 

[Jocce]

Hello Dr. Mas,

You take long time to solve, so mostly will be solving properly. In consideration of this much involvements, how many patients you treat in a day alongwith doing other duties?

He doesn't treat patients. He just give sick people water that has had the spirits of assorted plants and minerals imprinted on its soul. Very much like the way we christen our children but you have to drink the potion instead of having a priest rub it on your skin.

 

[geni]

Can you confirm that this new drop which was taken as new starting material contains 1/99 ratio of 1st starting material (Refer to probablity law)?

The probability of any given number of atoms can be calculated as followes is we modle the solution as an idea gas (in parctise the odds against rise even faster as you move away from the norm due to electrostic propulsion).

xCy (0.5)^x(0.5)^y-x

Where:
X= no. of atoms in the drop
y= N_A/100

 

[TheBoyPaj]

is that paranormal to you?

Let me explain this paranoramlity. The picture in the avatar is of Dr. MAS and not mine.

Does no one want to comment on this?

Are you saying that you are NOT Dr. MAS, even though you have claimed to be up until now?

 

[MRC_Hans]

You want to learn but wish to learn from out side the class. Come inside the class and tell me the answer of my question which I directly addressed to you and others. If you had no idea, then what do you need from me.

You are testing my patience, now. Your question has been answered repeatedly, but I will do so again, below.

However, what makes you assume that YOU can act as the teacher, here?

I think, you must join some prep class before raising un-necessary question. If you can't tell me the true answer and if you say, I admit and say I don't know then I will tell you answer and will teach you more.

This is a peer to peer debate. You have no reason to act like a teacher. You have made a claim, no you must provide evidence for it. You have no right to put conditions on it. Some of our more blunt members here would say "put up or shut up".

Now:

My question is still unanswered.
When a single drop from 1st potency (which was prepared according to the ratio 1/99) was taken into 2nd bottle for preparing 2nd dilution, can you confirm that the exact ratio of "starting material" in the drop was transfered in 2nd diltution?

Remember, 1st potency was prepared with the ratio 1/99 i.e one drop of starting material was taken and 99 drops of fresh pure any solvent (alcohol) was added and then it was jerked 10 times. The "lonly" drop of 1st starting material was got mixed and now you have to take one drop from the previous potency as "new starting material" for preparing 2nd potency. Clear?

Can you confirm that this new drop which was taken as new starting material contains 1/99 ratio of 1st starting material (Refer to probablity law)?

Remember, according to probality law, it is quite possible that the 2nd starting material "drop" may not contain any molecule of 1st starting material (because that drop was picked up blindly from the 1st bottle) and it may or may not contain 50% of the 1st starting material or may contain 99% of the starting material. Hence, avogadro's law can be applied in the same manner as it was demonstrated by you (member) earlier.

Have you follewed my new clear and robust wording. I can't explain in more simple way.

What is your claim?

The single drop has the same ratio as the vial it was taken from. If we consider the crude substance to be 100% (no matter what its composition), then the drop contans 100%.

When that drop is mixed 1/99, the next step will contain 1%.

Repeat, and the percentage will be 0.01%.

etc....

Probability does not play a role till the number of molecules left becomes very low, meaning at the same order of magnitude as the dilution ratio (in this example ~ 100).

OK?

Now, can we go on please?


Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Does no one want to comment on this?

Are you saying that you are NOT Dr. MAS, even though you have claimed to be up until now?

MAS has stated that all his students have his log on data. A very interesting position for somebody who has demanded full personal details from others. The deep hypocrisy is duly noted.

However, just for the record, I'd like the administrator's position on this kind of inverse sockpuppeteering, so I'm reporting this post.

Hans

 

[steenkh]

However, just for the record, I'd like the administrator's position on this kind of inverse sockpuppeteering, so I'm reporting this post.

Do not let Dr. MAS goad you to have him banned. This is what he wants. He wants to show his followers that he can run corners with us, and he probably also wants to get banned, so that he can claim it was because we ran out of arguments!

 

[Darat]

MAS has stated that all his students have his log on data. A very interesting position for somebody who has demanded full personal details from others. The deep hypocrisy is duly noted.

However, just for the record, I'd like the administrator's position on this kind of inverse sockpuppeteering, so I'm reporting this post.

Hans

A Membership is for an individual, which is clear from the application i.e. having to enter your name. If an account is found to be being used deliberately by more then one person then further action may be taken. I will PM Dr Mas about this matter.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat

 

[Zep]

I also agree. Follow me into the first year class of DHMS....

Excellent! In which case I will set up an initial problem for you, the master, and you will take us all through the homeopathic operation of preparing a simple 30C sodium chloride remedy. And you will do the arithmetic as we go along so we can all follow. And everyone will be nice and polite so we can see the master at work, won't we!

Very well, master. Here's the starting situation.

NUMBER OF MOLECULES IN 1ml (1 drop) of PURE WATER is approximately 33,460,000,000,000,000,000,000.

We are using sodium chloride (NaCl), which for this first exercise we will agree disperses instantly and completely at each level of potentising.

We will agree for thesake of argument that the "mother tincture" of sodium chloride is pure, and that one ml contains the same number of molecules as water.

We will use the classic Hanhemennian potentising method as described here on your own organisation's website by Dr. Muhammad Akram Khan, B.Sc (Hons), M.Sc (PHE), DHMS, RHMP: http://www.nchpakistan.com/articles.htm

So we begin:

What is the first step, and please show us the arithmetic using the above numbers. And remember, you agreed to do this for us.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

I'll repeat this again, until MAS or one of his sockmuppets chooses to answer.

MAS, let's say you have a 1ml of 1 molar solution of Na2SO4 solution....If you want to use this as the basis for your next 1 in 100 dilution you will draw 1ml into a pipette and add 99ml water.

If the solution was well-mixed when you drew up that 1ml it will contain 6.022 x 1020 of each of the components of Na2SO4.

You are suggesting that there may be some other number drawn up.

How many? What are the chances that the aspirate will conatin a number substantially different from 6.022 x 1020?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Do not let Dr. MAS goad you to have him banned. This is what he wants. He wants to show his followers that he can run corners with us, and he probably also wants to get banned, so that he can claim it was because we ran out of arguments!

I have not asked for banning, or indeed for any action other than to know the official position on this. I do think, however, that it can take the meaning out of a debate if you are faced with different individuals using the same virtual identity. Potentially, I find this could be more destructive than one individual using several logins.

As for wanting to be banned: Well maybe. This should not keep any administrator from taking proper action, however.

Hans

 

[TheBoyPaj]

Yes, having multiple people on one account leaves the door open for people to make spurious claims and, when shown to be incorrect, they can just say "I didn''t write that".

In fact, he has probably used that excuse by the time I've finished typing this.

 

[Kumar]

I have not asked for banning, or indeed for any action other than to know the official position on this. I do think, however, that it can take the meaning out of a debate if you are faced with different individuals using the same virtual identity. Potentially, I find this could be more destructive than one individual using several logins.

As for wanting to be banned: Well maybe. This should not keep any administrator from taking proper action, however.

Hans

Mr. Hans,

Before reporting, have you noticed any language or style difference in Dr.Mas's so many postings? Can you diffenciate between different postings, as if, several people are posting in his name? I didn't noticed any difference in all his posting. He may be just joking/kidding or playing.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Mr. Hans,

Before reporting, have you noted some language & style change, in Dr.Mas's so many postings? Can you diffenciate between different postings, as if, several people are posting in his name? I didn't noticed any difference in all his posting. He may be just joking/kidding or playing.

Kumar, I have noted changes of language and posting style in YOUR posts .

As I said, I simply reacted on "Dr. MAS"'s own words. And I simply asked for a clarification since this situation did not seem to be covered explicitly in the rules.

As you can see, we got that clarification, and so we can move on.

Hans

 

[Kumar]

Kumar, I have noted changes of language and posting style in YOUR posts .

Wrong. No other can/will write in my language & style.

I know, goodness can be nailed as per current age entitlements.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

I know, goodness can be nailed as per current age entitlements.

I just wanted to quote that so we can all marvel at it.

Kumar= the sound of one hand clapping.

I remain unenlightened.

 

[Homeopath Syed]

Beware

Did someone say he is going to take Anacardium-200 TDS for 10 days here ?

Oh my...

Please do not do it.. It may cause harm...! and its not easily anti-doted either.

We can discuss it out here....than puting anybody on trial...

I propose another better way...
Lets have a case that needs treatment...Lets have case on Rhinitis or Coryza or Allergy and I take a case here in front of all of you guys...!

So ... who is Sick ???