What is paranormal in Homeopathy

[anor277]

Posted by Dr Mas
Remember, according to probality law, it is quite possible that the 2nd starting material "drop" may not contain any molecule of 1st starting material (because that drop was picked up blindly from the 1st bottle) and it may or may not contain 50% of the 1st starting material or may contain 99% of the starting material. Hence, avogadro's law can be applied in the same manner as it was demonstrated by you (member) earlier.

If this was the case we could drink seawater on the off chance that it did not contain any sodium chloride. Hey presto, world water supply problem solved if sea water is potable.

Actually, the chemical potential (the thermodynamic driving force) for a concentration to become completely uniform throughout the solvent is all downhill (even without stirring or succession, whatever that is).

 

[Dr. MAS]

DR MAS,

Please change your avatar.. why don’t you put up a picture of yourself instead that horrible ugly guy in the picture ?

is that paranormal to you?

Let me explain this paranoramlity. The picture in the avatar is of Dr. MAS and not mine.

 

[geni]

Remember, according to probality law, it is quite possible that the 2nd starting material "drop" may not contain any molecule of 1st starting material (because that drop was picked up blindly from the 1st bottle).

The odds against this are greater (due to electorstatic interactions) than 2^{60221419900000000000000} to 1

 

[Darat]

The odds against this are greater (due to electorstatic interactions) than 2^{60221419900000000000000} to 1

So not impossible then!

 

[Dr. MAS]

Since you haven't answered flume I will assume the substance is completely soluble in the solvent.

Why do you need to assume? What is your scientific laws tell you? Opium is soluble in alcohol or not?

 

[Dr. MAS]

I see you can cut and paste now. And it's your claim, not mine.

OK, shall we go through the answer to this together? Yes? Do you want to do the arithmetic?

I also agree. Follow me into the first year class of DHMS....

 

[Jocce]

Why do you need to assume? What is your scientific laws tell you? Opium is soluble in alcohol or not?

Nowhere in your post on 04-18-2005 04:55 AM do you mention opium so I have to assume something. Considering your long background in scientific training that you pretend to have you should know how to express yourself clearly and unambigously.

Opium soluble in alcohol? I don't know of hand but I'm sure anyone of our chemists here knows. What point are you trying to make MAS?

 

[atarian]

Yes, Opium is soluble in alcohol.

Back in the day, it used to be called "Tincture of Laudanum" and was given as medicine for some conditions (IIRC)

/B.Sc Chemistry (Hons) 1998

 

[Darat]

Rather then trying to catch-up, a quick question to anyone following this thread, has Dr Mas given any explanation for how (according to his claim that homeopathy can cure people) homeopathy works?

 

[Jocce]

MAS...oh MAS...I'm dissapointed with you. I am now almost sure you're just a simple troll now.

Noone...I repeat noone...can be this slow to understand what's being said. Noone can so persistently avoid any questions asked. Noone other than a troll would return again and again to get humiliated like this.

Thank god I have some pakistani friends so I know firsthand that your not representative of your fellow countrymen or educational system.

Anyway, your question is answered. Now it's your turn.

 

[atarian]

Edited to add: This refers to Darat's post of a few minutes ago.

Nothing definite, he's given hints but refuses to be drawn out.

He has made a bold statement to the effect that just about anyone who takes 200C Anacardium for 10 days will develop horrible symptoms.

/I have no idea what Anacardium is.
/I hereby volunteer to take up this challenge of his.
/Anyone know where I can get some of this stuff at 200C?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Edited to add: This refers to Darat's post of a few minutes ago.

Nothing definite, he's given hints but refuses to be drawn out.

He has made a bold statement to the effect that just about anyone who takes 200C Anacardium for 10 days will develop horrible symptoms.

/I have no idea what Anacardium is.
/I hereby volunteer to take up this challenge of his.
/Anyone know where I can get some of this stuff at 200C?

No, that was Syed.

And to Darat's question: No. Dr. MAS has made some vague claims about fantastic AIDS cure rates, and he has claimed that he would explan the effect of NaCl on homeopathic preparations (or something like that), but he then deferred his explanatio to such time as certain, semingly random, posters had established their educational credeintials to his satisfaction.

In other words: Dr. MAS is making wild claims and evades questions. ...The usual procedure .

Hans

 

[atarian]

Oops, my mistake.

We are left with nothing but ducking and weaving from "Dr" Mas.

 

[Dr. MAS]

Could you specifiy whether you are talking about a substance which is soluble in the solvent , such as NaCl in water? If you are talking about both soluble and insoluble materials, could you talk about them separately to make things clearer?

We use soluble and unsoluble sustances for making potency. We also use gases, ozone, dust, viruses and solar radiations. I would read your statement with great interest if you could comment on all. But if you feel difficulty, you may comment on both cases soluble and insoluble anyway.

 

[Dr. MAS]

Nowhere in your post on 04-18-2005 04:55 AM do you mention opium so I have to assume something. Considering your long background in scientific training that you pretend to have you should know how to express yourself clearly and unambigously.

Opium soluble in alcohol? I don't know of hand but I'm sure anyone of our chemists here knows. What point are you trying to make MAS?

I am saying, when the drop from the first potency was transfered into 2nd potency bottle what was the ratio of starting material had in that drop?

 

[Dr. MAS]

And to Darat's question: No. Dr. MAS has made some vague claims about fantastic AIDS cure rates, and he has claimed that he would explan the effect of NaCl on homeopathic preparations (or something like that), but he then deferred his explanatio to such time as certain, semingly random, posters had established their educational credeintials to his satisfaction.

In other words: Dr. MAS is making wild claims and evades questions. ...The usual procedure .

Hans

You want to learn but wish to learn from out side the class. Come inside the class and tell me the answer of my question which I directly addressed to you and others. If you had no idea, then what do you need from me.

I think, you must join some prep class before raising un-necessary question. If you can't tell me the true answer and if you say, I admit and say I don't know then I will tell you answer and will teach you more.

 

[Dr. MAS]

Atlast, Hans admitted.

Skeptics do not claim that homeopathy is paranormal. Skeptics do not claim that homeopathy is paranormal. Skeptics do not claim that homeopathy is paranormal. Skeptics do not claim that homeopathy is paranormal.

You will also admit many things in future. I am going according to my secret plan.

 

[Jocce]

I am saying, when the drop from the first potency was transfered into 2nd potency bottle what was the ratio of starting material had in that drop?

Are you having reading difficulties? The question has been answered already. If the starting material is considered "100%" then mixing that with 99 parts of water or alcohol yields a ratio of 1:100.

And yes, it can actually vary slightly from drop to drop since we can never be sure the solute is completely evenly distributed in the solvent. But for all practical purposes the ratio is 1:100.

Why am I even bothering? Because I'd like us to get past this "test" and continue to see if there's a point to be made here.

 

[Dr. MAS]

Thank you Prof Raza for your kind email / message.

 

[Darat]

Atlast, Hans admitted.

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You will also admit many things in future. I am going according to my secret plan.

At last he's learnt how to use the "quotes" tag! So at least one person has learnt something from this thread.