Moderated The NYPD and Molten Concrete

yankee451 said:
The police provided false evidence about molten concrete, and alleged firefighters supplied false witness about molten steel, and this guy pretended to be an injured firefighter who witnessed explosions and people falling out of the sky.

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Remember it was THEY who lied about this stuff; I'm only the guy who has the unhappy task of bursting your bubble.
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So they cleaned the blood off him, how does this prove your missiles?
 
The police provided false evidence about molten concrete, and alleged firefighters supplied false witness about molten steel, and this guy pretended to be an injured firefighter who witnessed explosions and people falling out of the sky.
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Your evidence that something is amiss is the fact that some dude WASHED HIS FACE?!?!?!?

That is the most idiotic thing I have EVER read on here from you people. And that's saying something.
 
NoahFence said:
Your evidence that something is amiss is the fact that some dude WASHED HIS FACE?!?!?!?

That is the most idiotic thing I have EVER read on here from you people. And that's saying something.
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Perhaps yankee doesn't have a bathroom in his basement, washing your face appears to be an odd concept to him.
 
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AJM8125 said:
There's an even better way Steve. Go to NYC, find Jimmy Grillo and confront him. When he breaks your nose, we'll see how long it takes for the swelling to go away.
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I think James Grillo is still with Ladder 24. He qualified as a Ladder Company Chauffeur Class 1 on January 19th 2010 (see point 2.7 in this PDF). Perhaps Steve should go ask him if he's an actor, and if so, how he's managed to stay in character for so long.



Steve, have you contacted the NYPD Museum yet?

Beachnut provided the contact information for you, earlier in this thread:

beachnut said:
http://www.nycpolicemuseum.org/collections/index.html

Beth Spinelli
Registrar/Collections Manager
tel: (212) 480-3100 x127
email: [email protected]
Appointment hours are Tuesday-Thursday 11AM-4PM.
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Eye witness testimony can be funky when it comes down to details because people experience things differently and they have different ways of expressing the things they interpret or see. People get things wrong, and likewise as in this case certain individuals like to read them too literally without delving into the facts about the physical evidence, and the circumstantial evidence. That witnesses might get details wrong doesn't make them liars, it makes them human... So may I ask who ever perpetuates this idea that molten concrete exists a question? Why are there no eye witnesses to the "items" that would have caused this "suspicious" phenomenon in the first place? And is there evidence any of this is relevant to the collapse of the buildings? In my eyes, you could can "potentially" prove lots, but not a single conspiracy theory has been capable of establishing a link between "cause and effect" with these controlled demolition ideas...
 
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beachnut said:
Off topic again. Why are you off topic in your police hate thread?
You posted two videos not about melted concrete.
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From the OP:
So without the NYPD, we would have very few photographs of plane parts, and without the FDNY and FEMA we’d have very few stories of “rivers of molten steel”,
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I was right on topic.

An alleged firefighter described explosions and bodies falling from the sky while wearing a rubber nose. This is right in line with the NYPD opening a museum exhibit about molten concrete, and with other alleged firefighers' descriptions of molten steel.
 
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AJM8125 said:
There's an even better way Steve. Go to NYC, find Jimmy Grillo and confront him. When he breaks your nose, we'll see how long it takes for the swelling to go away.
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Sure thing, and then I'll get a picture of said nose the following day.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
Eye witness testimony can be funky when it comes down to details because people experience things differently and they have different ways of expressing the things they interpret or see. People get things wrong, and likewise as in this case certain individuals like to read them too literally without delving into the facts about the physical evidence, and the circumstantial evidence. That witnesses might get details wrong doesn't make them liars, it makes them human... So may I ask who ever perpetuates this idea that molten concrete exists a question? Why are there no eye witnesses to the "items" that would have caused this "suspicious" phenomenon in the first place? And is there evidence any of this is relevant to the collapse of the buildings? In my eyes, you could can "potentially" prove lots, but not a single conspiracy theory has been capable of establishing a link between "cause and effect" with these controlled demolition ideas...
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Eye witness testimony doesn't heal a swollen nose overnight.
 
Dash80 said:
Perhaps yankee doesn't have a bathroom in his basement, washing your face appears to be an odd concept to him.
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Perhaps you've never injured anything, ever. Even if his nose wasn't broken, the swelling would take days to subside.

It may be hard to tell if your nose is broken. Swelling can make your nose look crooked even if it is not broken. When the swelling goes down after a few days, it is easier to tell if your nose is really crooked.
http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/kb/content/symptom/nosei.html
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yankee451 said:
Perhaps you've never injured anything, ever. Even if his nose wasn't broken, the swelling would take days to subside.
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It's hilarious how 9/11 kooks pretend that they are the leading experts in absolutely everything. Where i come from, they call what you are doing, making up bs.
 
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The Platypus said:
It's hilarious how 9/11 kooks pretend that they are the leading experts in absolutely everything.
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It's disturbing that the true believers will distort reality about just about everything. Now they're convincing themselves a severely damaged proboscis can heal overnight.

It is the little things that expose the denial.
 
Redtail said:
Or his injuries weren't as serious as you believe.
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Which makes one wonder why his nose was so badly swollen, gashed and discolored, and why he didnt' wipe the "blood" from his face prior to being interviewed.

He wasn't really bleeding was he.
 
yankee451 said:
It's disturbing that the true believers will distort reality about just about everything. Now they're convincing themselves a severely damaged proboscis can heal overnight.

It is the little things that expose the denial.
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A guy who comes to a skeptics forum to make claims like no planes, missiles there is no evidence of, and denying people jumped on 9/11, and tries to back all these nonsense claims up with stuff like claiming to know the exact prognosis of someone's injury from a picture, is accusing us of distorting reality about everything and being in denial... Now that is really funny...
 
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The Platypus said:
A guy who comes to a skeptics forum to make claims like no planes, missiles there is no evidence of, and denying people jumped on 9/11, and backs this up by now claiming to know the exact prognosis of someone's injury from a picture, is accusing us of distorting reality about everything and being in denial... Now that is really funny...
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I've only met a few true skeptics here. You're not one of them.
 
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