Moderated The NYPD and Molten Concrete

[beachnut]

Air Cannon vs. Van...FWIW

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6488421888/h139B63AE/

Did you see the JASSM hit the van, the air cannon was a smoke screen.

 

[yankee451]

Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. Countless movies about dirty cops litter the video shelves; movies like Serpico, Internal Affairs, and the Godfather depict corruption everywhere. Everyone’s aware of Philadelphia PD corruption, of the LAPD and Rodney King, etc., etc. To a lesser known extent, but likely just as corrupt, come other big city departments, like the fire departments and social services, or the mayor’s offices. Influence peddling (read: graft, bribery) in local and national governments is commonplace, but we common folk prefer not to talk about it, or tell ourselves the good guys win in the end. It’s a happy fantasy.

We’ve all heard the stories about the brave FDNY and the rivers of molten steel. The fire department is presented as hero-victims of 9/11 ais therefore beyond suspicion and reproach, as is their claim of molten steel. Second only to the FDNY on the sympathy scale is the NYPD, but what many people don’t know is not only was steel in the sky turned molten by kerosene on 9/11, but according to the NYPD, it also melted concrete a thousand feet below and not only that but after it cooled, it solidified back into concrete, encasing firearms therein.

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Snipped for compliance with Rule 4. Do not copy and paste lengthy tracts of text/articles from elsewhere. Instead cite a short quote and provide a link to the source.

Here's the link to the rest of the post.

http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/

 

[yankee451]

What you see in the museum piece didn't take much heat at all, and pressure did most of the work.

It's really that simple.

But that's not nearly as sexy as saying the concrete melted, and there is still no evidence that the fires continued to burn for days afterwards, beyond the occasional museum exhibit.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

But that's not nearly as sexy as saying the concrete melted, and there is still no evidence that the fires continued to burn for days afterwards, beyond the occasional museum exhibit.

Speaking of evidence, have you found any for your imaginary missiles yet?


They're pretty much central to the fantasy narrative you're pushing here...

 

[yankee451]

No, the thread is how Yankee451 hates police, and denies those who died on 911. Did you read the OP, the rant against the police?

The thread is about the evidence the authorities provided false information to support the "reallly hot fires" meme.

I've already stated I don't hate anyone, even you, but you've clearly let your animosity for me cloud your ability reason, or even to stick to the topic.

 

[beachnut]

The thread is about the evidence the authorities provided false information to support the "really hot fires" meme.

I've already stated I don't hate anyone, even you, but you've clearly let your animosity for me cloud your ability reason, or even to stick to the topic.

Do you read your web site?
http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
Looks like you hate police. Unless you edit the web page you seem filled with hate, so much you make up lies about 911.
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/ Lies about 911, and hate for the murdered Flight 93 Passengers you deny exist. That is hate.

Have you told them they made a mistake? They made a false statement? You imply on purpose. In the real world they made a mistake, an innocent mistake unlike the idiotic missile fantasy.

You hate the police, proof is in your web presences, your legacy.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
Proof.

Projecting? The real question, what clouds your ability to reason?
Look at the claims.
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/ You claim missiles, not seen. Reason?

You said people who jumped, were fake. Reason? You are confused, there was no melted steel, you agree. There was no melted concrete, you agree. But then add nonsense of missiles, and claim the people hitting the ground were fake. Reason?

Denying Flight 93 crashed, and the people who escaped the fire and smoke by jumping, is hate by spreading a lie.

Don't get upset, you are making up a ridiculous fantasy, it is your claims, your ideas, and they all represent hate to me. It is my opinion, but your claims are fantasy. You got the concrete right, it is not melted; when will you tell the museum instead of posting walls of nonsense about police. It is a museum, not the NYPD. You missed.

 

[NoahFence]

Are you saying that a normal office fire can volatilize lead?

Did you see a normal office fire on 9/11? I didn't.

 

[NoahFence]

But that's not nearly as sexy as saying the concrete melted, and there is still no evidence that the fires continued to burn for days afterwards, beyond the occasional museum exhibit.

They didn't burn for days. They burned for months.

 

[Sabretooth]

There is a reason why they use fire brick for fireplaces and ovens and not regular concrete...

 

[yankee451]

Do you read your web site?
http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
Looks like you hate police. Unless you edit the web page you seem filled with hate, so much you make up lies about 911.
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/ Lies about 911, and hate for the murdered Flight 93 Passengers you deny exist. That is hate.

Have you told them they made a mistake? They made a false statement? You imply on purpose. In the real world they made a mistake, an innocent mistake unlike the idiotic missile fantasy.

You hate the police, proof is in your web presences, your legacy.
http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
Proof.

Projecting? The real question, what clouds your ability to reason?
Look at the claims.
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/ You claim missiles, not seen. Reason?

You said people who jumped, were fake. Reason? You are confused, there was no melted steel, you agree. There was no melted concrete, you agree. But then add nonsense of missiles, and claim the people hitting the ground were fake. Reason?

Denying Flight 93 crashed, and the people who escaped the fire and smoke by jumping, is hate by spreading a lie.

Don't get upset, you are making up a ridiculous fantasy, it is your claims, your ideas, and they all represent hate to me. It is my opinion, but your claims are fantasy. You got the concrete right, it is not melted; when will you tell the museum instead of posting walls of nonsense about police. It is a museum, not the NYPD. You missed.

I use evidence to support my conclusions, how 'bout you?

 

[yankee451]

There is a reason why they use fire brick for fireplaces and ovens and not regular concrete...

There is a reason I used my woodstove to demonstrate why the official 9/11 story is ridiculous. Heat wasn't the reason.

 

[beachnut]

I use evidence to support my conclusions, how 'bout you?

In your mind you think you have evidence. I checked your web pages, and you have zero evidence. You must think your opinion is evidence, is it not.

http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
No evidence. You say they lied, but it was a mistake.

http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/
No evidence, just a lie about missiles that did not exist.

http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
No evidence.

http://yankee451.com/
No evidence. You think you have evidence, but you don't. But don't trust me, as your mom and dad, or your kids; or you wife. Have them post your evidence for you.

Have you notified the Museum yet? They made a mistake, and you lied and said they lied for your silly fantasy claim.

 

[TJM]

I use evidence to support my conclusions, how 'bout you?

No, no you haven't.

 

[abaddon]

I use evidence to support my conclusions, how 'bout you?

Go right ahead and produce evidence of missiles, and account for the consequential eyewitness accounts. Feel free, whenever you are ready.

 

[yankee451]

In your mind you think you have evidence. I checked your web pages, and you have zero evidence. You must think your opinion is evidence, is it not.

http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
No evidence. You say they lied, but it was a mistake.

http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/
No evidence, just a lie about missiles that did not exist.

http://yankee451.com/2012/02/28/911-for-psychos/
No evidence.

http://yankee451.com/
No evidence. You think you have evidence, but you don't. But don't trust me, as your mom and dad, or your kids; or you wife. Have them post your evidence for you.

Have you notified the Museum yet? They made a mistake, and you lied and said they lied for your silly fantasy claim.

Goodness, you're all over the place. You do know what it means to 'stay on topic', yes?

 

[yankee451]

Go right ahead and produce evidence of missiles, and account for the consequential eyewitness accounts. Feel free, whenever you are ready.

The police provided false evidence about molten concrete, and alleged firefighters supplied false witness about molten steel, and this guy pretended to be an injured firefighter who witnessed explosions and people falling out of the sky.

Remember it was THEY who lied about this stuff; I'm only the guy who has the unhappy task of bursting your bubble.

 

[TJM]

<snip>and this guy pretended to be an injured firefighter who witnessed explosions and people falling out of the sky.

Remember it was THEY who lied about this stuff; I'm only the guy who has the unhappy task of bursting your bubble.

Protip: When you over-magnify and over-sharpen a video grab, it's really easy to spot the liar. That would be you in this case.

 

[yankee451]

[qimg]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/AJM8125/JGFDNY.jpg[/qimg]

Protip: When you over-magnify and over-sharpen a video grab, it's really easy to spot the liar. That would be you in this case.

When the readers watch the videos they can see who the liars are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmC_HKRu428

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tn1PvIscts

 

[beachnut]

Goodness, you're all over the place. You do know what it means to 'stay on topic', yes?

There was no melted concrete, they made a mistake. You failed to make a point because you are are never on topic.

You have no evidence they lied about melted concrete. Did you ask them?

You think this is evidence.

http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
Countless movies about dirty cops litter the video shelves

Movies?
Not evidence, more like all over the place, you are an expert at projecting.

Goodness, you're all over the place. ...?

lol

On topic?

The fire department is presented as hero-victims of 9/11

Now it is the fire department? Thought you said police?

Melted concrete; why would they say that?

A mistake? lol, you offer no evidence of a lie.



All over the place...

At the time of 911, Bernie Kerik was NYPD commissioner, and from there he went off to be the “Interim Minister of Interior – coalition Provisional Authority of Iraq”

So? lol, you sure do ramble a lot and make no point.

Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is the godfather to Kerik’s children

what topic is this? lol

Much of the photographic “evidence” of jet parts was supplied by Bernie Kerik’s police department

what topic is this? Logically, there is no way to tie this to your claim of a melted concrete being a lie. It is off topic.

exterior panel are offered as proof of the power of the alleged impact:

The kinetic energy of the impact was very powerful. What does the fact you can't do physics and understand the impact energy, have to do with the mistake of a label in a museum, which you claim a lie.

Goodness, you're all over the place. ...?

lol

the short answer to your question is that concrete will decompose rather then melt

And you post this you prove they did not lie, they made a mistake, the museum made a mistake. Did you tell them yet?

Right here is simple proof the police lied, so if they lied about the concrete, what else did they lie about? Bernie Kerik will be out of the slam next year, perhaps we should ask him.

No, the museum labeled it by mistake. Then you go off topic with Kerik, again.

It looks like you were projecting.

Goodness, you're all over the place. ...?

lol

You think they lied about the melted concrete, you lie about missiles. Why do you lie about 911? Did the dog eat your evidence?

911 truth says there was melted steel, but you got this one right, there was no melted steel, no melted concrete. Have you told the Museum to fix the label? Who cares? Why do you hate the police? How does this support that idiotic missile fantasy?

When the readers watch the videos they can see who the liars are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmC_HKRu428

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tn1PvIscts

Goodness, you're all over the place. ...?

Off topic again. Why are you off topic in your police hate thread?
You posted two videos not about melted concrete.

 

[Dash80]

The police provided false evidence about molten concrete, and alleged firefighters supplied false witness about molten steel, and this guy pretended to be an injured firefighter who witnessed explosions and people falling out of the sky.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Grillo_Before_After.png[/qimg]

Remember it was THEY who lied about this stuff; I'm only the guy who has the unhappy task of bursting your bubble.

You are one sick puppy Steve.

ETA: WHO THE IS "THEY" ??!!