Moderated The NYPD and Molten Concrete

AJM8125 said:
Sure I have, but that would be anecdotal.

You have pictures of the man that you think are fake. We do not. So that seems to leave it up to an argument between you and Jimmy Grillo, who stills works at Ladder 24 in Manhattan.

Leaving anytime soon?
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Of course he isn't.
 
The Platypus said:
It's hilarious how 9/11 kooks pretend that they are the leading experts in absolutely everything. Where i come from, they call what you are doing, making up bs.
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Yes, invariably every troofer is an expert in structural engineering, explosives, military operations, facilities management, fire fighting, video editing, CIA operations, White House operations, FBI operations, the FAA, architecture, electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, etc. etc.:eek:
 
The Platypus said:
It's hilarious how 9/11 kooks pretend that they are the leading experts in absolutely everything. Where i come from, they call what you are doing, making up bs.
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Well duh! Stevie baby does work for a health care provider (you remember, one that profited directly from 9/11 money to provide health care for the kind of first responders he is calling a liar here), so that obviously means he is medically qualified!
 
yankee451 said:
Perhaps you've never injured anything, ever. Even if his nose wasn't broken, the swelling would take days to subside.
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Steve... seriously?

Have you never heard of injuries initially looking worse than they really are?

When I was ten, I went flying face first into a fence, dumb bike threw me over the handlebars. The left side of my face was a *********** mess. A day later all cleaned up and treated, it didn't look half as bad.

Maybe you could do as other posters have suggested, go ask jimmy about his injuries and experiences of that day. See what he thinks of your steaming bullcrap "theories"
 
yankee451 said:
It's disturbing that the true believers will distort reality about just about everything. Now they're convincing themselves a severely damaged proboscis can heal overnight.

It is the little things that expose the denial.
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Can you tie this together? how does this prove missiles?
 
threadworm said:
Well duh! Stevie baby does work for a health care provider (you remember, one that profited directly from 9/11 money to provide health care for the kind of first responders he is calling a liar here), so that obviously means he is medically qualified!
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Feel free to share your name, face and background too. If you believe what you say, you should be able to sign your name to it.
 
Dash80 said:
Steve... seriously?

Have you never heard of injuries initially looking worse than they really are?

When I was ten, I went flying face first into a fence, dumb bike threw me over the handlebars. The left side of my face was a *********** mess. A day later all cleaned up and treated, it didn't look half as bad.

Maybe you could do as other posters have suggested, go ask jimmy about his injuries and experiences of that day. See what he thinks of your steaming bullcrap "theories"
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If he exaggerated his injuries, what else did he exaggerate.
 
yankee451 said:
If he exaggerated his injuries, what else did he exaggerate.
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He didn't, it simply looks worse when he's covered in blood and dust.

Then he got treated and cleaned up. Why is this so difficult to grasp?!
 
yankee451 said:
I'm not done yet. You'll see.
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How many more times are you going to post this statement without offering anything new or interesting? The only thing forthcoming after you make this post is more nonsensical BS that would baffle the imagination of any sane person.

Case in point: In just one of your scenarios, you used up the entire available inventory of a missile in test phase at just one location. Then, you claimed that this same type of missile was used at another location hundreds of miles away.

Can you explain this?
 
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Dash80 said:
He didn't, it simply looks worse when he's covered in blood and dust.

Then he got treated and cleaned up. Why is this so difficult to grasp?!
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Lol I know. 36 hours later he should still be covered in dust. Not like they use make-up on TEEVEE (:rolleyes:) either.
 
yankee451 said:
Feel free to share your name, face and background too. If you believe what you say, you should be able to sign your name to it.
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My name is Paul White, I work for local government in the UK looking after their computers. I have a first class honours degree in a science subject, and a PhD, also in a science subject. I taught at degree level for a while until the money ran out. I have two children by my first marriage, none by my second. I am 49. I am fond of cats. I play guitar and banjo. I try my best not to insult the memory of dead people or call people liars who quite clearly aren't. I have made a detailed study of the Apollo landings, see my signature. I find people who claim there were no planes involved in 9/11 contemptible and stupid. I do not take money from an employer who has benefited from an event I claim didn't happen. In that respect I am not a two faced hypocrite.

OK?

E2A - you wanted my face? fair enough, have a facebook profile picture. Try not to get too excited - not all of it is me.

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yankee451 said:
Feel free to share your name, face and background too. If you believe what you say, you should be able to sign your name to it.
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Why, do you need names when you spread lies about 911? There were people who decided to jump instead of burn. You don't do reality, you make up idiotic claims of missiles and make up lies about people.

I am an engineer, with a masters degree. I am a pilot who flew heavy jets, 28 years in the USAF. Then you claim I am indoctrinated. Yep, to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against enemies foreign and domestic. You apologizer for 19 terrorists, 19 murderers by making up lies about 911. My face is right in your face, right next to my first supersonic ride, and you paid for it. Thank you, thank you very much.
I served my country with all the naive apple pie junk as my motive, and you spread lies against your country because of some personal problems.

What a legacy, I am a naive person, but you blame my fellow Americans for 911; ignoring 19 nuts, 19 terrorists. I am indoctrinated, you have an idiotic fantasy. Right.

After you said this...
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... I'm not done yet. You'll see.
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This is a great reason not to use real names when you bring delusional claims to a skeptic forum and act like you know you are right.
You were done when you made up the fantasy. Using your own name when spewing insane claims is self-critiquing.

At JREF, you think you are the only skeptic. Anyone who does not agree with your no evidence fantasy, has been indoctrinated. I have been indoctrinated, an engineer, and a pilot - I was indoctrinated so good I can do engineering and flying. Who indoctrinated you to spew BS and insane propaganda?

You say unknown people used missiles on 911. You can't contact the museum and tell them they made a mistake; instead you call them liars.

Calling the police liars. You say they exaggerate the temperature by saying melted concrete. They offered no temperature. The high temperature nuts are 911 truth, they claim steel melted. You are banned by 911 truth because you make up lies so stupid, 911 truth knows you are full of BS. You are the only person on earth who does not know you are full of nonsense.

http://yankee451.com/2012/07/15/963/
The original OP, a cut and paste SPAM attack...

The opening sentence?
Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. Countless movies about dirty cops litter the video shelves;
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What is the topic? Big-city police lie?

You are stuck at a Skeptic Forum because all the crazy 911 truth forums have found your claims too crazy for their crazy 911 truth silly claims forum. You are not banned here for your crazy claims, but no one believes your claims; you are holding steady at zero support at JREF. Not one of the 11 year veteran die hard 911 truth supporters are in your corner.

What is next? Why have you avoided the Pentagon? Too paranoid to take on the DoD?

Ironically you are right, no melted concrete. Most of JREF agrees, no melted concrete, you googled something and used it correctly. No body believes your crazy missile stuff.
 
yankee451 said:
Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. Countless movies about dirty cops litter the video shelves; movies like Serpico, Internal Affairs, and the Godfather depict corruption everywhere.
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You cite Hollywood movies as evidence of police corruption and then you have the gall to mock people who watch "TeeVee"?

And before you get all lathered up let me point out that I know Serpico is a true story. I've seen the movie, read the book, saw a documentary about the real Frank Serpico and have seen/read several interviews with him. If you cited the actual Serpico case as evidence of police corruption that would have been fine, but you didn't. You cited a movie. Using the movie Serpico as "evidence" of police corruption is like using the recent Lincoln movie as "evidence" of the Civil War.
 
I love how yankee keeps saying "teevee" brainwashes us, then uses MOVIES as "evidence" HAHA!

Brilliant! Keep the laughs coming Steve.
 
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