One Million Rupees Offer to prove "Homeopathy is Paranormal"
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Thanks. Whole chemestry can be related to this concept & evaulated accordingly. We may have to check possibility of molecules sticking strongly in pores of glass(silica) alike spores. Many other biological-medical aspects/pathogens evading immunity/latency/hardening of arteries etc.---can be thought accordingly. Why I insisted/told/discussed so much about "silica/silicon/silicic acid"--my favourate.
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Thanks. Whole chemestry can be related to this concept & evaulated accordingly. We may have to check possibility of molecules sticking strongly in pores of glass(silica) alike spores. Many other biological-medical aspects/pathogens evading immunity/latency/hardening of arteries etc.---can be thought accordingly. Why I insisted/told/discussed so much about "silica/silicon/silicic acid"--my favourate.
Press Confernce Report
Dear Members, the claim is not in the air. In order to make fix in the ground, a press conference was held and Court Stamp Papers have been filed.
All the best!
Dear Members, the claim is not in the air. In order to make fix in the ground, a press conference was held and Court Stamp Papers have been filed.
The managing director of www.hhomeopharma.com Dr. Hafiz Matie ullah announced to sponsor the prize money in support of World Homeopathic Computer Club's offer to prove "Homeopathy is paranormal in nature and scientific laws / principles cannot apply over homeopathy".
Dr. Matie (on left) and Dr. MAS (on right) are addressing press conference which was called to announce the offer.
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All the best!
Mojo
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Why would anyone on this forum (apart from the homeopaths, of couse) want to prove that "scientific laws / principles cannot apply over homeopathy?"
I, and I suspect most of the other posters in this thread, believe that the laws of science do apply to homeopathy. The claims of homeopathy are certainly outside the generally accepted laws of science. However, the laws apply whether you like it or not: that is why homeopathy doesn't work.
Because homeopathy's claims lie outside the generally accepted laws of science, the only way homeopathy could possibly work is if "scientific laws / principles cannot apply over homeopathy." The nature of your challenge suggests that you think scientific laws do apply to homeopathy.
Do you really think homeopathy doesn't work, Dr. MAS?
Let's face it: you are the one who needs to prove that scientific laws do not apply to homeopathy, not me.
Mojo
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Re: Science/secret/trick of homeopathy/TRS
Are you really suggesting sticking some of the "active" ingredient to the inside of the bottle used for the dilution so that, effectively, more of the substance is added with each dilution? Isn't that cheating? Surely the solute added in later dilutions in this way won't have been potentised to the same degree as the original remedy. If homeopathy works as claimed (NB: it doesn't), this is just like adding a contaminent or impurity to the mixture.Kumar said:
mojo, the above post was the continuation of the first post which was posted at www.nch.ipbfree.com forum. You missed everything and cutting the apple without peeling off the skin.
Rolfe
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Dr. Mas, do you believe that homoeopathy will only work "by the grace of Allah (God)"? To clarify, do you believe that divine intervention takes place every time a homoeopathic remedy works?Dr. MAS said:
Rolfe.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
Are you saying that your post that I quoted, i.e.: "World Homeopathic Computer Club's offer to prove "Homeopathy is paranormal in nature and scientific laws / principles cannot apply over homeopathy"" is not an accurate representation of your challenge? If it is not an accurate representation of your position, it seems somewhat disingenuous of you to post it.Dr. MAS said:mojo, the above post was the continuation of the first post which was posted at www.nch.ipbfree.com forum. You missed everything and cutting the apple without peeling off the skin.
If it is an accurate representation of your challenge, everything in my post still stands.
EdipisReks
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can i play too? ewok turkey/laser/paper towel are absolute nuclear & aren't able not do earring/earringing of mucus??Kumar said:
SezMe
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Sorry, Epi, no go. You're making too much sense.EdipisReks said:
Dr MAS,Dr. MAS said:mojo, the above post was the continuation of the first post which was posted at www.nch.ipbfree.com forum. You missed everything and cutting the apple without peeling off the skin.
Would you PLEASE give us the correct public URL for your Million Rupee Challenge description and application form. How do you expect us to try for it if you make it so difficult to find that no-one can find it?
Also, if you have hidden the challenge on your new discussion forum, I will refuse to register just to read your challenge rules. If that is what you are doing, that is clearly not being very honest with people. If you are SO SURE the challenge is real, put it on an open public website just like here on JREF. A website like the one for your employers perhaps - THEY are all reputable homeopathic teachers and would have no problem with your challenge, would they?
Mojo
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Re: Science/secret/trick of homeopathy/TRS
Please describe a test that demonstrates that the "potentized" ingredient is present in homeopathic preparations. If you are aware of any reliable reports of the test having been carried out, please provide references.
Oh, and remember that you are supposed to be detecting molecules (or ions, or whatever) from the original tincture, not molecules of the same substance introduced later on as a contaminent as you describe in your post that I've quoted here.
To return to what we were discussing earlier, what was asked for was "basic tests" that show that there is any of the "active" component present in homeopathic preparations at the dilutions we were discussing. What you have replied with is your usual vague theorising about how thay could be present. Providing a fanciful explanation of how something could occur is not the same thing as demonstrating that it does occur.Kumar said:Just paint a bottle inside or stick something to its inner walls or embed any homeopathic starting material(silica in glass have absorbing properties) in the inner walls of bottle/containers/grinding equipment used in triturations, then shake/grind with force/rinse/wash any number of times or continue potentization process in same bottle.....& then look if molecular presence is there in ever potency or not. It looks while experiancing 'memory of water, same container was used, but while testing different containers were used for different dilutions--so test might had failed. Now what about Avogdro law or otherwise. Sorry, but "secret" may be this only.I previously indicated accordingly & in other language not indonasian).
Please describe a test that demonstrates that the "potentized" ingredient is present in homeopathic preparations. If you are aware of any reliable reports of the test having been carried out, please provide references.
Oh, and remember that you are supposed to be detecting molecules (or ions, or whatever) from the original tincture, not molecules of the same substance introduced later on as a contaminent as you describe in your post that I've quoted here.
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
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Is there some way we could do this at the same time we are also refuting all the evidence for the afterlife? If so, we could win Zammit's prize, too.
I know it may sound odd to combine a proof that something is paranormal with a proof that a humongous pile of evidence is all bogus, but somehow it just feels possible to me. There's a synergy here. Don't you think?
~~ Paul
I know it may sound odd to combine a proof that something is paranormal with a proof that a humongous pile of evidence is all bogus, but somehow it just feels possible to me. There's a synergy here. Don't you think?
~~ Paul
Re: Re: Science/secret/trick of homeopathy/TRS
In this topic, I am trying to indicate possibility of molecules of active constituents of any remedy, not contaminations & carriers.
I repeat;
What is glass porosity? Does glass has some porosity? How water stick to glass? How insects could climb on a verical glass?
Pls tell me if you know this.
You can also tell water (HF/fluoride)-glass interactions?
Mojo said:
In this topic, I am trying to indicate possibility of molecules of active constituents of any remedy, not contaminations & carriers.
I repeat;
What is glass porosity? Does glass has some porosity? How water stick to glass? How insects could climb on a verical glass?
Pls tell me if you know this.
You can also tell water (HF/fluoride)-glass interactions?
Mojo
Mostly harmless
Re: Re: Re: Science/secret/trick of homeopathy/TRS
Frankly, I don't think such a test exists, because it would be trying to detect something that doesn't exist.
But you are welcome to prove me wrong.
If you can.
You are off with the fairies again. In this thread, you were asked for details of a test that can detect the "active " ingredient in a homeopathic preparation at the dilutions mentioned. Please provide the information requested.Kumar said:
Frankly, I don't think such a test exists, because it would be trying to detect something that doesn't exist.
But you are welcome to prove me wrong.
If you can.