[Moderated]Gravy's witness "summary" does not reflect reality.

No, no one said a 2nd plane flew over the pentagon. Go read the very quote you used. I said everyone knows there was a 2nd plane. Now what you would like people to believe is that there was a plane just a few feet over the Pentagon that was the same plane that flew a few feet over everyone's head.

But because no one saw that and you have ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF, you have to resort to trying to put words in peoples mouth.

Why? Because when all your little song and dance is done, you have nothing but imagination and wishful thinking. And all your cute little games and attempts to trick people into saying things that you want them to can't hide that.

You're really sad. I mean I am sure that stuff works well on the 9/11 cult forums, but here's it's just pathetic. And again, another reason why no reliable experts or media will acknowledge your cult video. You're gonna need more than song and dance to get beyond chat forums where people have no choice but to listen to your crap.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Uh right.

Details that were reported happening simultaneously with the explosion or within seconds should be ignored.

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When the physical evidence is overwhelming? Sure.

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How's this, I could say a giant stay puffed marshmellow man was there are the pentagon, but everyone was too distracted by the explosion to see him. And him being part of a covert operation is why there were no eyewitnesses.

My claim has not been refuted by a single eyewitness.
 
And don't anyone remind Lyte of the DNA testimony which confirmed the identity of almost every passenger on flight 77. He might have to go back to calling all the DNA testing companies and schools of all being in on it too! After all, they are "suspects" LOLOLOL!
 
Jonnyclueless said:
No, no one said a 2nd plane flew over the pentagon. Go read the very quote you used. I said everyone knows there was a 2nd plane. Now what you would like people to believe is that there was a plane just a few feet over the Pentagon that was the same plane that flew a few feet over everyone's head.

But because no one saw that and you have ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF, you have to resort to trying to put words in peoples mouth.
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You are putting words in MY mouth and ignoring the words coming out of the witnesses mouths.

Joel Sucherman:
-Sucherman saw another plane climb steeply and make a sharp turn. "I thought, 'Is this thing coming around to make a second attack? If there is another explosion, we're toast.'"..."another plane started veering up and to the side. At that point it wasn't clear if that plane was trying to maneuver out of the air space or if that plane was coming round for another hit.




Kelly Knowles:
-...she saw a second plane in the air *over the Pentagon* *as* a hijacked jet plunged into the five-sided military fortress...some sort of plane followed the doomed American Airlines jet toward the Pentagon, then veered away after the explosion. "Thank God somebody else saw that. There was most definitely a second plane, " Knowles said. "It's so frustrating because nobody knows about the second plane, or if they do they're hiding it for some reason." (Kelly sounds like a great actress) Pentagon official said late Friday no other plane was flying with the jetliner. But he said it was possible a military plane was in the area at the time of the attack. (that would sure fool a lot of people who saw a jet fly away)



Keith Wheelhouse:
-He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon....As the hijacked jet started its descent, "it's like it stepped on its gas pedal, " Wheelhouse said. "As soon as he did that, the second plane banked off to the west." A possible explanation for the second plane could be a plane landing at nearby Ronald Reagan National Airport . The Pentagon is between the cemetery and the airport... (He) said it's possible the second plane was a military plane, but the military has not said it had a plane shadowing the hijacked jet."
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Do you believe these people or not?
 
Jonnyclueless said:
And don't anyone remind Lyte of the DNA testimony which confirmed the identity of almost every passenger on flight 77. He might have to go back to calling all the DNA testing companies and schools of all being in on it too! After all, they are "suspects" LOLOLOL!
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Absolutely not.

The chain of custody is long and the analyzers of the data would never know where it really came from.

Nobody will EVER be able to cite exactly who collected the DNA.

This was completely controlled by the suspect.
 
Lyte, I may have missed it, could you show the witnesses that saw the plane fly right over top of the Pentagon?

Could you please show the witnesses that saw the debris planted? Remember there were people there on the front lawn all morning. Before the crash there was no debris, after the impact there was debris. The debris was identified as Flight 77 and the DNA further proved it was.

So please show this proof of planted evidence.
 
Pardalis said:
When the physical evidence is overwhelming? Sure.
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Ok.

As long as you can admit to blanket denial of an entire catagory of evidence I can understand the exact level of objective critical thinking that I can expect from you.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Absolutely not.

The chain of custody is long and the analyzers of the data would never know where it really came from.

Nobody will EVER be able to cite exactly who collected the DNA.

This was completely controlled by the suspect.
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No the analyzers would not know where it came from, but it's documented and signed off as it goes. But once again, you cannot back up your claim that it was tampered with. Something that would pretty cmuh be impossible with the number of people involved. And more importantly, you are simply making this up and cannot back up your claim.

There you go again with "the suspect". LOL! I apologize but I can't stop laughing every time you say this. It's a nice attempt to distract form the fact that you are making pure conjecture and cannot back up your claims.

And no it was not controlled by "the suspect" it was controlled by many different people. And the identification went beyond simply DNA (despite that being conclusive).

Once again, ALL YOU HAVE:

3 people who THINK the plane may have been on the North side.

No matter how much stuff your imagination makes up will not change this fact. And nothing will change that all your fairy tales are based on this unreliable evidence. YOU know it as well as we do.
 
Lyte-

Do something useful with your "evidence".

Also, take a step back and make sure you realize you're sitting at your desk, typing messages on a forum. You write these posts in such a "tough" manner, it really makes me laugh. These "challenges" to Gravy are hilarious.

Gravy is not the investigator who put together the official story. You, on the other hand, are directly responsible for the Pentagon fantasy, so the onus is on you. If you want to challenge someone, challenge the authorities that interviewed the witnesses that Gravy quotes.

Try to remember(and I know it's hard, because when you do realize this, it makes your little house of cards come tumbling down), you came to this board, nobody here owes you anything.
 
Yaters, he has to be here because this is the only place he can pretend he has a case. The experts won't listen to this kind of crap, and neither will any legitimate media outlets. but here he can talk all he wants and pretend his conjecture is "evidence" all he wants. Here he won't get laughed at as much or here he can just pretend the people laughing at him don't know anything. And since no one is really notcing his cult video, he has to come here to try and pretend like people care about it.

But right now he is questioning someone else's witnesses while making claims base not only on NO physical evidence, but also NO witnesses.
 
Lyte save the BS. I have seen the video, and I got a good laugh. It's been discussed to death here and it's a dead and beaten horse. Face it, no one takes yout little cult video seriously.

And I can't say it enough. ALL of your conjecture is based on 3 witnesses thinking they saw the plane fly on the north side of the gas station. And you KNOW this is not reliable evidence. And you KNOW you're making up all these other stories based on that unreliable evidence. Post as many pictures as you want to hide from the truth. But that won't make it any more reliable. And it won't change the fact that all the physical evidence proves your eyewitnesses as wrong (even the ones you lead on).

No amount of bullying is going to get you out of this one.
 
Yeah, I know, I just like to throw those thoughts out there. Like I always say, if the roles were reversed, and these people were being prosecuted with the type of evidence they claim is "irrefutable" with regards to 9/11, they would cry foul and the case would be thrown out.
 
Aww, Craig.... Yaters asks you to provide proof of the planted evidence, and you respond with a plug for your febbio (feeble+video), and then post pictures of people pointing.

Uhhhh, those are "evidence" of your mythical flight path. Please post proof of the planted evidence. (Do you take requests? I like the Light Poles Came by Night sub-theme, myself. Could we hear that one for the people who missed it? I'd like to send this out to Sherry in Sheboygan.)
 
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