[Moderated]Gravy's witness "summary" does not reflect reality.

[Jonnyclueless]

Please list all the witnesses who saw the ploes planted or ling there in advance.

Please list all the witnesses who saw the plane fly over the pentagon.

Please explain how the plane hit the generator, managed to pull up, and was not damaged enough to continue flying.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Gravy posting lies? What did he do try to post a document claiming it proved that the phones were removed from all planes before 9/11?

Maybe you're better off accusing people who don't buy into the little fly over fairy tale of simply buying into what the government says. Much easier than accepting that you have nothing but conjecture based on the weakest form of evidence and parade around other eyewitness testimony which you cherry pick as to being valid and then have no actual eyewitness testimony for your very own claims.

It's a nice little Lyte song and dance, but in the end, song and dance is all it is.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Please list all the witnesses who saw the ploes planted or ling there in advance.

Please list all the witnesses who saw the plane fly over the pentagon.

Please explain how the plane hit the generator, managed to pull up, and was not damaged enough to continue flying.

The damage to the generator had to have been staged Clueless.

I know it's difficult to accept.

I know it's a horrible reality that we ALL wish would go away but it will not.

I am truly sad and sorry for this and wish to GOD that I could ignore it all and end my investigation forever.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

So now the damage to the generator was staged as well??

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you please prove that. Could you please prove that a generator that was in front of many people who were there since early morning was damaged beforehand? Could you please provide your proof that shows some people damaged the generators in advance with no one noticing?

Or can you show how the blast managed to blow the generators inwards.

PLEASE LIST ALL THE WITNESSES WHO SAW THE PLANE FLY OVER.

PLEASE LIST ALL THE WITNESSES WHO SAY THIS PLANTED EVIDENCE.


I can't stop laughing at your claims of people ignoring your investigation when all your investigation is a trip to ignoring reality and the evidence. And again, ALL of it, and I mean ALL of it is SOLELY based on a couple of eyewitnesses, which is a completely unreliable. YOU know it, WE know it.

This is why you are not taken seriously by any legitimate media. You WISH you were, but you're not. So you have to act like a little bully on chat forums where people have no choice BUT to listen to your baseless claims and where you can do little song and dances to play games and feel like you are actually making a legitimate case.

BUT HERE"S YOUR CASE:

You have 3 people who THINK they saw the plane fly on the north side.

That's IT. No matter how much you wish it were more, that's IT. You know if so you keep on putting on a little pony show and act all tough in hopes that no one wikll notice that's all you have.

 

[boloboffin]

The damage to the generator had to have been staged Clueless.

I know it's difficult to accept.

I know it's a horrible reality that we ALL wish would go away but it will not.

I am truly sad and sorry for this and wish to GOD that I could ignore it all and end my investigation forever.

This we need for documentation. Lyte has buyer's remorse.

It can be over, Lyte. You can end this investigation forever. You can stop making up implausible stories about Lloyd and the generator and the light poles and the other evidence. You can stop it all.

You can admit that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, because that is what happened. You will then be free to oppose Bush or the aims of the American government with which you disagree in a more productive way.

 

[Pardalis]

What about the physical evidence Lyte, the corpses or the passengers and that sort of stuff?

 

[Lyte Trip]

So now the damage to the generator was staged as well??

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you please prove that. Could you please prove that a generator that was in front of many people who were there since early morning was damaged beforehand? Could you please provide your proof that shows some people damaged the generators in advance with no one noticing?

The independent urefuted accounts from the citgo witnesses prove this.

Or can you show how the blast managed to blow the generators inwards.

Are you suggesting this is physically impossible in such a highly secured and controlled area by suspects with unlimited resources and weaponry?

PLEASE LIST ALL THE WITNESSES WHO SAW THE PLANE FLY OVER.

Here you go.

The rest were suppressed and sequestered.

PLEASE LIST ALL THE WITNESSES WHO SAY THIS PLANTED EVIDENCE.

There are not always witnesses to every aspect of covert operations carried out by the most technologically advanced and financially backed intelligence agency in the world in their own backyard.

This doesn't prove that covert illegal activity never takes place.

Do you really believe that it never does take place?

I can't stop laughing at your claims of people ignoring your investigation when all your investigation is a trip to ignoring reality and the evidence. And again, ALL of it, and I mean ALL of it is SOLELY based on a couple of eyewitnesses, which is a completely unreliable. YOU know it, WE know it.

Huh? Their accounts are completely verified and are not directly refuted by ANYONE.

This is why you are not taken seriously by any legitimate media. You WISH you were, but you're not. So you have to act like a little bully on chat forums where people have no choice BUT to listen to your baseless claims and where you can do little song and dances to play games and feel like you are actually making a legitimate case.

The data will not go away. People are waking up daily.

BUT HERE"S YOUR CASE:

You have 3 people who THINK they saw the plane fly on the north side.

That's IT. No matter how much you wish it were more, that's IT. You know if so you keep on putting on a little pony show and act all tough in hopes that no one wikll notice that's all you have.

4. actually 5 now. It was confirmed by an other previously published witness.

Bottom line NOBODY directly refutes it.

 

[Lyte Trip]

What about the physical evidence Lyte, the corpses or the passengers and that sort of stuff?

Great question.

The chain of custody of the DNA was controlled by the suspect therefore it is inadmissible in a mock trial against the sole providers of this data.

 

[I Am He]

It looks like the Lyte Tripper is about to go off the edge. Could it be because to many people are laughing at his insane flyover theories? Now please do yourself and everyone else a favor and seek some help before you loose it all together, Trip. You are not funny any more, you're just plain pathetic.

I Am He

 

[boloboffin]

So in your list of witnesses who saw the plane fly over the Pentagon, all of them were "handled" by the story of a second plane - meaning that there was no actual second plane?

 

[Pardalis]

The chain of custody of the DNA was controlled by the suspect therefore it is inadmissible in a mock trial against the sole providers of this data.

I guess I shouldn't have asked.

Good luck with all that...

 

[Jonnyclueless]

The independent urefuted accounts from the citgo witnesses prove this.


Are you suggesting this is physically impossible in such a highly secured and controlled area by suspects with unlimited resources and weaponry?

Here you go.

The rest were suppressed and sequestered.

There are not always witnesses to every aspect of covert operations carried out by the most technologically advanced and financially backed intelligence agency in the world in their own backyard.

This doesn't prove that covert illegal activity never takes place.

Do you really believe that it never does take place?

Huh? Their accounts are completely verified and are not directly refuted by ANYONE.

The data will not go away. People are waking up daily.

4. actually 5 now. It was confirmed by an other previously published witness.

Bottom line NOBODY directly refutes it.

NO, the eyewitnesses do NOT prove it. It proves there were 3 people who think the plane may have flown to the north. It doesn't prove that the plane actually did. You can BS yourself and convince yourself it proves all your other delusions, but you're just lying to yourself.

Yes I am suggesting it IS impossible. No matter how much your try to up play the abilities of the Pentagon. It is 100% absolutely impossible. Are you saying it's impossible that your 3 witnesses could be mistaken? Despite the fact that it's a common occurrence in such dramatic incidents (and yes with multiple people)? Are you going to say it's really impossible?

Their accounts are NOT verified either. By verified, you mean that you agree with them. That's it.

Your entire argument is based purely on conjecture and speculation, that's it. You can dress it up and act like a bully all you want, but you simply cannot change the fact that you are merely making baseless speculation. Again, based ONLY on 3 people thinking the plane was on the north side of a gas station. And you use that unreliable evidence to not only dismiss all other evidence, but to MANUFACTURE your own.


So here's your little game. You try to refute other evidence by saying their is no eyewitness testimony. Then you go and make baseless claims that have no eyewitness testimony to back them up because you simply made the claims up.

No matter how hard you try, we're not all suddenly going to become stupid. This crap may work on the loose change forums where the only thing people want to hear is a conspiracy. but here in reality here we need real evidence, it doesn't fly. And on this forum, your little song and dance does not work.

If you are going to harass mark over witnesses, then provide us with the witnesses for your magical fly-over claim. Provide us with the witnesses who saw the planted evidence. Oh that's right, you don't need witnesses to claim a covert op, but you do need witnesses to prove there wasn't one.

Talk about BS of all BS. Once again, what you have:

3 people who think they saw the plane fly to the north of the gas station.

 

[Lyte Trip]

It looks like the Lyte Tripper is about to go off the edge. Could it be because to many people are laughing at his insane flyover theories? Now please do yourself and everyone else a favor and seek some help before you loose it all together, Trip. You are not funny any more, you're just plain pathetic.

I Am He

Huh?

I am perfectly lucid and 100% confident about all details that we claim.

My girl wasn't in the mood to go out tonight so I got in the mood to deal with you guys in between a radio interview I had scheduled.

No doubt Gravy will cower from the challenges to his integrity and honesty in this thread and order you all to ignore it so it gets buried allowing him to slither away without explaining himself.

It's too bad you guys are so subservient to his every wish at the peril of all logic and truth.

This place is like a cult and Gravy is the high priest.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Great question.

The chain of custody of the DNA was controlled by the suspect therefore it is inadmissible in a mock trial against the sole providers of this data.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

Suspect? And is this your little court? HAHAHA!!!!

Nice song and dance to dismiss the evidence that proves you 100% WRONG.

You are suspect, therefore all your claims are inadmissable, even in your pretend court.

 

[Lyte Trip]

3 people who think they saw the plane fly to the north of the gas station.

Dude loves hollow statements based purely on arguments from incredulity.

 

[Pardalis]

Gosh I feel so tired. It feels like everything is starting over again... thread after thread of this nonsense and now we're back to square one.

 

[boloboffin]

This is great -- he must have me on ignore. One more feather in my cap!

So here's my point. He has witnesses on his list of people who saw a flyover who actually saw two planes. They are not people who were handled with a story - they are the ones who "came up with the story." They saw two planes, and one of those planes hit the Pentagon. That plane did not fly over -- it hit.

Ye gods.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

That's it Lyte, keep putting on the show. keep it up so no one sees that your entire theory is based on conjecture that you cannot back up. Keep jumping from one foot to the other and maybe no one will see that you are even more wrong than the person you are attacking. You question whether his witnesses literally saw something when you don't even have witnesses to back up your claims.

Now accuse us of all just buying into what the government tells us. That's a classic technique, usually works pretty well. The top it off with "You can't accept the fact that the facts and evidence won't go away". That should scare a lot of debunkers!

 

[Lyte Trip]

So in your list of witnesses who saw the plane fly over the Pentagon, all of them were "handled" by the story of a second plane - meaning that there was no actual second plane?

You are darn close.

Either provide confirmation of the plane they are talking about our come to your own conclusions about their accounts that are not widely reported.

Bottom line.....either a plane DID fly over the Pentagon or these people are lying/mistaken.

Which do you think it is?

 

[Pardalis]

Bottom line.....either a plane DID fly over the Pentagon or these people are lying/mistaken.

Which do you think it is?

Mitaken.