How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

[Mudcat]

I can understand that while I am sure others would/could come up with a conspiracy contention wrt to it.

And some people would make elaborate gang stalking 'theories' with the little old lady across the street, the one with a false hip and bad hearing, as the lynch pin.

Somehow I can't bring myself to care about anything they have to say.

On another note I feel a bit guilty about my OT posts here, that is until I contemplate the utter laughability of the OP

100% of the informative posts of this thread comes from pretty much whomever is not the original poster, so I don't feel guilty about derailing the topic at all.

 

[threadworm]

I can understand that while I am sure others would/could come up with a conspiracy contention wrt to it.

On another note I feel a bit guilty about my OT posts here, that is until I contemplate the utter laughability of the OP

I think it's helpful to ground oneself in reality for the odd moment, lest madness ensue.

It's quite amusing that even twoofers think the OP is somewhat deranged, if evidence from the link on his own blog is anything to go by.

 

[yankee451]

Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went. Do you know when that picture was taken?

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

If the glove doesn't fit...

 

[jaydeehess]

If the glove doesn't look right to me., and me alone, you must accept the most unusually complicated and laughable bit of fantasy that plops out of my mind..

ftfy

 

[yankee451]

ftfy

Waiting for your corrected measurements - I've got no problem with admitting error, so what are you waiting for. The jet's wingspan was 127 feet.

 

[yankee451]

Waiting for your corrected measurements - I've got no problem with admitting error, so what are you waiting for. The jet's wingspan was 127 feet.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

Extra credit question for the class to ignore:

How soft is the soil of a road-bed?

 

[beachnut]

Fantasy dies again, Reality wins,

Waiting for your corrected measurements - I've got no problem with admitting error, so what are you waiting for. The jet's wingspan was 127 feet.

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png

The wing span is 124 feet 10 inches.
The wing of 93 did the marks seen, you have proved it was 93 when coupled with the FDR, and RADAR, and DNA.

You debunked yourself again.


DNA
http://www.cstl.nist.gov/div831/strbase/pub_pres/Edson2004.pdf
Tons of Flt 93 debris - evidence 911 truth lies about.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11e.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11c.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris12.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris18sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris8sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris21sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris22sm.jpg
Fight 93 FDR
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc04.pdf
RADAR
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
Fantasy
http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/

What happened to the passengers on Flight 93 in your fantasy?

You mistake me for someone who cares ...

Photos of plane parts, confirmed to be 93 by FAA controllers watching 93 in real time, and by tape of the multiple RADAR sites. Ignoring reality has you making up a silly fantasy of missiles. Where was the FDR found? In the impact zone. You are debunked by tons of evidence.

You don't try to look up facts, you can't look up the wingspan of a 757. Why?

 

[yankee451]

Where are the official measurements from the crime of the century?

You'd think they would have detailed records of the exact dimensions of the crater. Wasn't this an historic event?

 

[jaydeehess]

Waiting for your corrected measurements - I've got no problem with admitting error, so what are you waiting for. The jet's wingspan was 127 feet.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

Or 24 feet, or the fact that a gravel road width can vary by a few feet depending on who is grading it when it gets too rough. Not exactly definitive margins on a gravel road either. Using the width of a person and the unknown width of a gravel road is one of the more laughable points 451 has put down. I much prefer waypast's method of using google earth, and while it too is not particualrily accurate, it pretty close and is not as variable as a gravel road width.

Of course there is no reason to believe that the outer few feet of wing made enough of a crater impression to be visible in any of the aerial pictures and thus a crater that is anywhere from about 115 to 127 feet from end to end is still consistent with an a/c of wingspan of 127 feet.

Of course body parts and aircraft/engine parts consistent with a Boeing also indicates that a Boeing made the crater as does the FDR/CVR found at the site, the large smoke plume created at impact and dozens of other details that 451 CHOOSES to ignore in favour of a fantasy of his own imaginative creation.

already addressed
in short I reject your contentions based on the ridiculous methodology you use and the great weight of evidence of a completely different scenario than that which you contend despite having no evidence other than that the thought occured to you and you alone.

clear?

 

[beachnut]

Missile Fantasy Debunk - Moving Goal Posts In Progress - Standby for Woo

Gish Gallop awayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

You'd think they would have detailed records of the exact dimensions of the crater. Wasn't this an historic event?

The FDR was in the crater. You posted a photo of the crater, and it matches 124 feet 10 inches of a 757 aircraft, flight 93 to be exact, where the parts of all passengers, and your buddy terrorists, were found.

The outline of the wings in the dirt, match the 124.7 foot wing. If you can't figure this out, you have failed again.

Where are the passengers on flight 93?

You mistake me for someone who cares ...

They were murdered by the terrorists you apologize for by spreading the single most idiotic fantasy to date on the tragedy. Willfully ignoring evidence, unable to defend your missile fantasy, you now prove you can't figure out how far wires are on a until post in PA, to measure the impact crater precisely.

You claim is a fantasy. Do you remember you claim of missiles, the ones not in service on 911? lol

 

[Slowvehicle]

Waiting for your corrected measurements - I've got no problem with admitting error, so what are you waiting for. The jet's wingspan was 127 feet.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

Can you even count the assumptions in your "diagram"?

 

[chris lz]

Yankee,

I've read your comments over 20 pages that the crater doesn't look right for a 757 crash. What I'm not quite getting is, what specific physics rules it out?

Thanks

 

[332nd]

Extra credit question for the class to ignore:

How soft is the soil of a road-bed?

I don't know. How soft is it?

 

[jaydeehess]

I don't know. How soft is it?

not as soft as a truther's grasp of physics nor as hard as a truther's head

 

[yankee451]

Yankee,

I've read your comments over 20 pages that the crater doesn't look right for a 757 crash. What I'm not quite getting is, what specific physics rules it out?

Thanks

Had you read the whole thread you woudn't be asking.

 

[yankee451]

Corrections wanted please

If my measurements seem off, please correct them. If 18 inches seems wrong for the measurements of a person's shoulders, sing out. If a two lane road doesn't measure 20 feet, don't take my word for it, do the research to correct me.

I was being generous with these measurements, but if you think they're wrong, by all means, show me where 127 feet of wing disappeared into the ground, including the road base (which are usually crushed rock).

If I'm wrong, show me where.

Do something other than mock.

 

[BasqueArch]

delete

 

[dafydd]

If my measurements seem off, please correct them. If 18 inches seems wrong for the measurements of a person's shoulders, sing out. If a two lane road doesn't measure 20 feet, don't take my word for it, do the research to correct me.

I was being generous with these measurements, but if you think they're wrong, by all means, show me where 127 feet of wing disappeared into the ground, including the road base (which are usually crushed rock).

If I'm wrong, show me where.

Do something other than mock.

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

Aw, what pretty lines. Stick it on your fridge door.

 

[phunk]

Road base? Of an unpaved dirt road? That the plane didn't crash on?

I don't know if you've noticed, but the road ends about where you "measured" the "20 feet".

 

[dafydd]

Road base? Of an unpaved dirt road? That the plane didn't crash on?

You'd think that the phrase ''unpaved dirt road'' would suggest that there is no crushed rock base, but we are in Trutherland here so anything is possible, except the truth.