How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

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Or is someone going to explain how the crater fits the jets dimensions? Shall we do it together?

Let's try to prove a jet did it, shall we?

Anyone know the measurements of the jet? Around 127 ft wingspan wasn't it?

So if the road was a two lane road and the lanes were an average 10-foot lane, that would make the road about 20 feet wide. How big is the crater?

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/shamnksville-road.png[/qimg]

I lined up a photo of the crash site in Google Earth using the base of the 2 telephone poles and the garage to align the photos. I then used the ruler to mark a line 127' 10" (the wingspan of a boeing 757 ) across the crater.

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I have a slight objection waypast, if I might. Was that from 2001, because a lot can change in thirteen years. Not Truthers, obviously, but the real world.
 
I have a slight objection waypast, if I might. Was that from 2001, because a lot can change in thirteen years. Not Truthers, obviously, but the real world.

One of the first things the MiB did was move those telegraph poles. Just in case....
 
I have a slight objection waypast, if I might. Was that from 2001, because a lot can change in thirteen years. Not Truthers, obviously, but the real world.


2 photos were used to make the gif, one from sept 12 2001 and the current photo from google earth. The 2 phone poles and the garage have not moved in that time(unless the MIB moved them), The measurement is accurate enough to say the wingspan would fit easily into the crater.
 
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Specifications (F414-400)
Dry weight: 2,445 pounds (1,110 kilograms)
Thrust to weight ratio: 9:1

Okay, unless this Chevy Tahoe is made of Orichalcum or Adamantium I think it would very quickly cease to exist.

Or go back to the future.
 
I lined up a photo of the crash site in Google Earth using the base of the 2 telephone poles and the garage to align the photos. I then used the ruler to mark a line 127' 10" (the wingspan of a boeing 757 ) across the crater.

[qimg]http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af74/waypastvne/mhJvMw.gif[/qimg]

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It's difficult to see that way, can you put the link to the original photo up with the gash please? I've been looking for different angles of the crash site from above. If it measures 127 feet it measures 127 feet, and I stand corrected but I'd like to examine your source photos. So how big is that central crater would you say?
 
I lined up a photo of the crash site in Google Earth using the base of the 2 telephone poles and the garage to align the photos. I then used the ruler to mark a line 127' 10" (the wingspan of a boeing 757 ) across the crater.

[qimg]http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af74/waypastvne/mhJvMw.gif[/qimg]

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Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went. Do you know when that picture was taken?

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Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went. Do you know when that picture was taken?

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

Excellent, why use accurate measurements when, with a bit of effort, you can create inaccurate ones?

Way to go. I'm quoting this picture for posterity.

Oh, and another thing. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WIDE THE CRATER IS.

I'll say it again: IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WIDE THE CRATER IS.

Why doesn't it matter? Because the crater doesn't contain the entirety of the aircraft because the aircraft fragmented violently upon impact, hence the vast debris field around the crash site.

So, let's cease this ludicrous crater size meme - it's a contrivance to use as an excuse a la OJ Simpson - "if it don't fit, you must acquit".

And here's the real story re the crash debris, courtesy of Wiki:

Flight 93 fragmented violently upon impact. Most of the aircraft wreckage was found near the impact crater.[79] Investigators found some very light debris including paper and nylon scattered up to eight miles (13 km) from the impact point in New Baltimore, Pennsylvania.[80] Other tiny aircraft fragments were found 1.5 miles (2.4 km) away at Indian Lake, Pennsylvania.[81] All human remains were found within a 70-acre (28 ha) area surrounding the impact point.[81] Somerset County Coroner Wally Miller was involved in the investigation and identification of the remains. In examining the wreckage, the only human body part he could see was part of a backbone.[82] Miller later found and identified 1,500 pieces of human remains totaling about 600 pounds (272 kg), or eight percent of the total.[83] The rest of the remains were consumed by the impact.[84] Investigators identified four victims by September 22 and eleven by September 24.[85][86] They identified another by September 29.[87] Thirty-four passengers were identified by October 27.[88] All the people on board the flight were identified by December 21. Human remains were so fragmented that investigators could not determine whether any victims were dead before the plane crashed. Death certificates for the 40 victims listed the cause of death as homicide and listed the cause of death for the four hijackers as suicide.[89] The remains and personal effects of the victims were returned to the families.[90] The remains of the hijackers, identified by the process of elimination, were turned over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as evidence.
 
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Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went. Do you know when that picture was taken?

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

What's the margin of error on your road measurement? Why do you not seem to know how to use that road measurement at a different angle, did you not take trig in HS (very recently I'm guessing)?

What if the road was slightly wider, say 22 feet?
 
Specifications (F414-400)
Dry weight: 2,445 pounds (1,110 kilograms)
Thrust to weight ratio: 9:1

Okay, unless this Chevy Tahoe is made of Orichalcum or Adamantium I think it would very quickly cease to exist.

Duh.. I say it happened, therefore I'm right and it's proven.

Plus, couldn't the Tahoe just have brand new tires?
 
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