How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

[Andy_Ross]

Wash, rinse, repeat. There was no such preponderance; read the thread.

Anyone have any new observations?

You lie again.
Pictures of debris have been posted in the thread numerous times. You ignore them.
Here they are again.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11e.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11c.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris12.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris18sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris8sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris21sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris22sm.jpg
Fight 93 FDR
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc04.pdf
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
The fantasy
http://yankee451.com/about-me-2/

 

[aggle-rithm]

Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went.

Thanks a lot. This sentence resulted in an epic face-palm that gave me a bloody nose.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Wow. That's a great photograph, many thanks.

"I will now plaster it with incomprehensible graphics."

 

[dafydd]

"I will now plaster it with incomprehensible graphics."

Drawn with crayons, by the look of it.

 

[Furi]

Why not use the dimensions between the powerlines adusted for angle, as a source of distance, as at the minute a 6" difference on the initial 10' line is a 6' difference on the measurement.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Drawn with crayons, by the look of it.

Microsoft Paint, I'm guessing.

 

[thedopefishlives]

Microsoft Paint, I'm guessing.

MSPaintFire, the tool of choice for any CT'er who doesn't have a clue how computer modeling and simulation really work and doesn't care to learn.

 

[Slowvehicle]

Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went. Do you know when that picture was taken?

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/120-feet.png[/qimg]

Oh. I get it!

It's another JREF "Count the Assumptions©" drinking game!

 

[JimBenArm]

Oh. I get it!

It's another JREF "Count the Assumptions©" drinking game!

Not again! I just got out of the hospital from severe alcohol poisoning after the last one!

 

[jaydeehess]

Sorry to break it to you but the MythBusters, in their first ever episode, busted that myth already.

so did the snopes link I gave

 

[jaydeehess]

What's the margin of error on your road measurement? Why do you not seem to know how to use that road measurement at a different angle, did you not take trig in HS (very recently I'm guessing)?

What if the road was slightly wider, say 22 feet?

Or 24 feet, or the fact that a gravel road width can vary by a few feet depending on who is grading it when it gets too rough. Not exactly definitive margins on a gravel road either. Using the width of a person and the unknown width of a gravel road is one of the more laughable points 451 has put down. I much prefer waypast's method of using google earth, and while it too is not particualrily accurate, it pretty close and is not as variable as a gravel road width.

Of course there is no reason to believe that the outer few feet of wing made enough of a crater impression to be visible in any of the aerial pictures and thus a crater that is anywhere from about 115 to 127 feet from end to end is still consistent with an a/c of wingspan of 127 feet.

Of course body parts and aircraft/engine parts consistent with a Boeing also indicates that a Boeing made the crater as does the FDR/CVR found at the site, the large smoke plume created at impact and dozens of other details that 451 CHOOSES to ignore in favour of a fantasy of his own imaginative creation.

Are we sure this isn't a POE?

 

[jaydeehess]

Not again! I just got out of the hospital from severe alcohol poisoning after the last one!

Your fault for choosing the word 'missle' as your drinking cue. I chose 'dustify' and of course only got drunk because of the dang wild card word (Everybody drinks when its used) 'official'.

 

[NoahFence]

Your fault for choosing the word 'missle' as your drinking cue. I chose 'dustify' and of course only got drunk because of the dang wild card word (Everybody drinks when its used) 'official'.

How do you think I feel?

I chose "you're right" and have been stone cold sober for the last 7 years.

 

[Mudcat]

so did the snopes link I gave

True, but the MythBusters went out and actually replicated the circumstances of the myth... Except that they had to use model rockets instead of JATO/RATO.

 

[jaydeehess]

True, but the MythBusters went out and actually replicated the circumstances of the myth... Except that they had to use model rockets instead of JATO/RATO.

'kay
I guess the military is picky about who gets to use the real ones, or was it a cost driven decision?

 

[jaydeehess]

How do you think I feel?

I chose "you're right" and have been stone cold sober for the last 7 years.

wow bad choice. You were expecting, perhaps, a discussion about the date the events took place on? Pretty much the only thing most truthers do get right.

 

[NoahFence]

It was either that or "incorrect" - and I had to work the next day.

 

[Mudcat]

'kay
I guess the military is picky about who gets to use the real ones, or was it a cost driven decision?

They were turned down by the military because they're choosy about such things.

 

[tsig]

Doesn't look like it would do it, and then you'd still need to explain where the darned jet went.

j l
It went thataway >>>\l/

 

[jaydeehess]

They were turned down by the military because they're choosy about such things.

I can understand that while I am sure others would/could come up with a conspiracy contention wrt to it.

On another note I feel a bit guilty about my OT posts here, that is until I contemplate the utter laughability of the OP