How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

[NoahFence]

Are 'candlepin' balls what we in Canada would refer to as 'five pin bowling' balls?

No, they're a New England and Canadian Maritime Provinces thing. Very localized.

 

[yankee451]

Who cares that it makes no sense? Who cares what the preponderance of evidence shows? The impact crater looks like missiles to yankee451 and not a plane, therefore inside job, therefore They MUST have had a reason. The NWO works in mysterious ways.

Ridiculous

"Preponderence'

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[Mudcat]

Then you can explain how a plane can disappear into the ground, because according to the official record, most of the plane was unearthed from the crater.

An aircraft the size of a 757, going that speed, and angle of attack? I would have been surprised had it not got imbedded into the ground and left behind a huge crater.

 

[twinstead]

Wash, rinse, repeat. There was no such preponderance; read the thread.

Anyone have any new observations?

You don't get to ignore the evidence by claiming it doesn't exist. Be as arrogant and condescending as you want; it just make your arguments look idiotic.

 

[yankee451]

An aircraft the size of a 757, going that speed, and angle of attack? I would have been surprised had it not got imbedded into the ground and left behind a huge crater.

Flight 1771 struck at mach 1.2 at a 70 degree angle and left a 2/4 foot hole assumed to be from a landing gear.

and was traveling at an approximately 70-degree angle toward the south. The plane struck a rocky hillside, leaving a crater less than 2 feet deep and 4 feet across, presumably where the landing gear struck the ground. The high-speed impact compressed the soil, which almost immediately rebounded, throwing fragments and paper (including the note by Burke) back into the air, before flames consumed them. No one survived the crash; the force of impact meant that human remains were very small, the largest being feet in shoes. The remains of 27 passengers were never identified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...es_Flight_1771

“When the aircraft hit at such a high speed it impacted and basically compressed the earth, and then it released, and it blew it back out of the hole”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehx-FOCunU

 

[332nd]

Then you can explain how a plane can disappear into the ground, because according to the official record, most of the plane was unearthed from the crater.

Do the measurements of the jet match the crater?

Answer the question.

Fairly loose soil & the plane moving at high speed.

Yes.

 

[twinstead]

"Preponderence'

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

LOL. All you can do is ignore and hand wave any evidence there was a plane. In fact, you HAVE to. You're in too deep now. You're going to look like a fool no matter what.

Keep it coming though. Finally there's some entertainment in this subforum!

 

[yankee451]

You don't get to ignore the evidence by claiming it doesn't exist. Be as arrogant and condescending as you want; it just make your arguments look idiotic.

No, only you get to do that. My posts will be moved.

 

[FrederickEason]

Wash, rinse, repeat. There was no such preponderance; read the thread.

There was, you just ignore it.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

You have to explain where they went.

Again, assuming you are 100% correct about the impact. I'm taking your story at absolute face value and assuming it is correct. Got that? No need to debate what hit, I'm assuming it was a missile.

So, what about the passengers and crew of the plane that didn't crash in the field? Where did they go? Did they even exist? Did they board flight UA93? If they did, where did the plane go?

Quoted so Yankee doesn't forget it.

 

[jaydeehess]

Then you can explain how a plane can disappear into the ground, because according to the official record, most of the plane was unearthed from the crater.

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What official records state that most of the plane was in the crater?

 

[twinstead]

No, only you get to do that. My posts will be moved.

Well then maybe you can take the high road and actually acknowledge there is evidence that exists that is contrary to your position that you need to address instead of simply hand waving it away. Don't worry about what I am or am not doing.

 

[twinstead]

What official records state that most of the plane was in the crater?

The government of the United States of Strawman

 

[yankee451]

What official records state that most of the plane was in the crater?

The ones I posted earlier. You've been following along, yes?

 

[yankee451]

Well then maybe you can take the high road and actually acknowledge there is evidence that exists that is contrary to your position that you need to address instead of simply hand waving it away. Don't worry about what I am or am not doing.

So if I claim to have a preponderence I get to insult and hand-waive and accuse my opponent of doing so?

 

[beachnut]

Fantasy fails with Pyrex Balls

Wash, rinse, repeat. There was no such preponderance; read the thread.

You can't recall your own debunking? You have to avoid typing? You said you were typing so fast, have you lost a skill that use to work?
So far you have scored zero. You have dropped your Pyrex ball, but maintain a 10 degree skipping angle, where you JASSM might of skipped to Pittsburgh, and beyond at 3800 mph. LOL, you never figured out how fast the Pyrex balls were going, this is super stuff. We learn about NASA, you remain deep in fantasy.

Anyone have any new observations?

We have most the evidence, you have all the fantasy.

Then you can explain how a plane can disappear into the ground, because according to the official record, most of the plane was unearthed from the crater.

Parts like all high speed impacts were spread on course for hundreds of feet because the impact had 1300 pound of TNT in KE. All over LOOK and see, WAIT, you ignore, you don't handle empirical data, you have fantasy.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11e.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11c.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris12.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris18sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris8sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris21sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris22sm.jpg
tons of parts, you ignore, not buried. oops

The plane did not disappear into the hole. Some parts were buried, some were ejected. You failed to read the "official record", you don't read your own source either. Pyrex balls? lol

Do the measurements of the jet match the crater?

The measurements of the impact area match not only the measurements of a 757, they match the attitude, speed, and have parts from 93. The FDR buried in the impact zone.

LOL, you have your missiles coming in low and they would not cut a wing impact crater, they would only make an impact crater, you picked the wrong angle.

Answer the question.

What was your question?

Yes, the impact zone matches the measurement of 93. The impact zone had body fragments consistent with a 1,300 pounds of TNT impact by an aircraft which had all the DNA of the passengers identified. When will you claim your terrorists friends, they had a fantasy too? All the passengers have been claimed.

What happened to the Passengers in your fantasy?

You mistake me for someone who cares ...

Flight 1771 struck at mach 1.2 at a 70 degree angle and left a 2/4 foot hole assumed to be from a landing gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehx-FOCunU

Do you read your own stuff?

The plane struck a rocky hillside

Rock? Physics? You don't do either? Or what?

More nonsense from you.
You now confirm high speed impacts destroy stuff into tiny fragments. Like Flight 93, but 93 hit soil, 1771 hit rock first.

Your NASA Pyrex ball study, we have the answer, empirical answers to the differences. lol, it is funny how you post the tools to debunk you.

Your NASA study, explains why 1771 was not buried like 93. Did you read your sources? It takes math, physics. Do you do physics?

The ones I posted earlier. You've been following along, yes?

Oops, you did not post anything about 93 debris, and you don't read anything you post for comprehension.

You can repeat your lies and fantasy, but you can't re-post the information you never posted in the first place; finally logic is found.

So if I claim to have a preponderance I get to insult and hand-waive and accuse my opponent of doing so?

You have fantasy. All you can do is hand-wave, wait, you waive the evidence and do the "hand wave". You are super.

 

[yankee451]

So, meteroites from the inside-out?

OR missiles from the outside-in?

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Yankee, why aren't you answering my questions? I've already told you that I'm assuming you are totally correct about the crater.

 

[Wolrab]

Then you can explain how a plane can disappear into the ground, because according to the official record, most of the plane was unearthed from the crater.

Do the measurements of the jet match the crater?

Answer the question.

Yup.

Where is all the debris from, what is it now, three missiles?

 

[yankee451]

Or is someone going to explain how the crater fits the jets dimensions? Shall we do it together?

Let's try to prove a jet did it, shall we?

Anyone know the measurements of the jet? Around 127 ft wingspan wasn't it?

So if the road was a two lane road and the lanes were an average 10-foot lane, that would make the road about 20 feet wide. How big is the crater?