How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

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Let's review:

JASSMs are part of a program that has been around since the 70s. Even the official records state it was approved for production in 2000 which means it worked and the Air Force wanted to buy it, but who knows what the classified records state. It would be ideal to use a previously unknown missile for a clandestine operation, so by using one that was not yet deployed or mass produced would give plausible deniabilty, but the technology used goes back decades, and two months after 9/11 the Air Force was publicly raving about this new missile:

During a flight test, held at White Sands
Missile Range, N.M., an F-16 from the 46th
Test Wing launched the JASSM while cruising
at about 500 mph at an altitude of
15,000 feet. The weapon separated cleanly
from the aircraft, deployed its wings and
tail section, and ignited its engine at the
proper altitude to begin a 50-mile dash toward
the target array on the desert floor.
The missile flew exactly as planned through
three way points for a total of 9 minutes
(about 50 miles). The JASSM missile impacted
within a lethal distance of the relocatable
radar target and the warhead exploded.
All systems, including the engine,
guidance, and fuze arming performed flawlessly
http://www.dau.mil/pubscats/PubsCats/PM/articles02/afnjf021.pdf

JASSMs have a 12x60 inch penetrating warhead designed for punching through hardened targets. The warhead contains 240 lbs of explosives which would make a crater roughly the size of the center hole in the Shanksville gash. This could account for the "wings" and the hole: one missile struck as an "aerostable slug" sans detonation, and the other struck at an opposite direction and detonated in the center.

As a real world example, NASA provides images of oblique craters and gives us the trajectories of the projectiles that caused them; <10 degrees:

oblique.jpg


By mirroring the image we get a good picture of what a crater might look like if two projectiles had struck from opposite directions:


Oblique-2.jpg


Which is a pretty close match with Shanksville:

Flight_93_aerial_msnbc.jpg


We have an eye witness account of a terrain-hugging small white jet, "no wider than my van" made of white molded fiberglass.

And we have other witness accounts of F16s in the area and heard a missile.

"I know of two people - I will not mention names - that heard a missile," Stuhl said. "They both live very close, within a couple of hundred yards. . .This one fellow's served in Vietnam and he says he's heard them, and he heard one that day." The mayor adds that based on what he knows about that morning, military F-16 fighter jets were "very, very close."

LOCATION OF F-16S. From Day 1, the government has given conflicting accounts about the exact whereabouts of three North Dakota Air National Guard F-16s, assigned to national air defense, based at Langley Air Force base in Virginia and scrambled at the height of the attacks.
http://web.archive.org/web/200111190...al/SHOT15C.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQTNy6Jb26A
 
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Perhaps our intrepid friend should get some sleep. A little lucidity would do wonders regarding the pretty obvious points being made against he/she's physically impossible scenario. I think he/she's been posting over 24 hours straight.

Is this perhaps a troll for charity or something?
 
Let's review:

JASSMs are part of a program that has been around since the 70s. Even the official records state it was approved for production in 2000 which means it worked and the Air Force wanted to buy it, but who knows what the classified records state. It would be ideal to use a previously unknown missile for a clandestine operation, so by using one that was not yet deployed or mass produced would give plausible deniabilty, but the technology used goes back decades, and two months after 9/11 the Air Force was publicly raving about this new missile:



JASSMs have a 12x60 inch penetrating warhead designed for punching through hardened targets. The warhead contains 240 lbs of explosives which would make a crater roughly the size of the center hole in the Shanksville gash. This could account for the "wings" and the hole: one missile struck as an "aerostable slug" sans detonation, and the other struck at an opposite direction and detonated in the center.

As a real world example, NASA provides images of oblique craters and gives us the trajectories of the projectiles that caused them; <10 degrees:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/oblique.jpg[/qimg]

By mirroring the image we get a good picture of what a crater might look like if two projectiles had struck from opposite directions:


[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Oblique-2.jpg[/qimg]

Which is a pretty close match with Shanksville:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Flight_93_aerial_msnbc.jpg[/qimg]

We have an eye witness account of a terrain-hugging small white jet, "no wider than my van" made of white molded fiberglass.

And we have other witness accounts of F16s in the area and heard a missile.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQTNy6Jb26A

Well, I guess you should be able to positively ID the firing platform, give its radar track, and show the point of manufacture and delivery trail of the missiles, along with their inventory reports then. Let's have it. Oh, and positively identify parts of that missile at the crash site, above all else.
 
Well, I guess you should be able to positively ID the firing platform, give its radar track, and show the point of manufacture and delivery trail of the missiles, along with their inventory reports then. Let's have it. Oh, and positively identify parts of that missile at the crash site, above all else.

HAHAHAHA - whoo! Priceless.
 
HAHAHAHA - whoo! Priceless.

In other words - "I have absolutely no evidence at all which proves my hypothesis, but I'm still running with it because its my own theory and therefore cannot possibly be in error"...
 
Yankee, did the people on the planes disappear voluntarily, and did the their families know about it or did the evil guv'ment eliminate them?

Gibberish. Will you still be doing this in thirty years time?

you aren't answering question, just spouting more made up gibberish

Reduced to knitpicking typos, the A-team sounds the retreat.

You reduce yourself to lies, and saying the dead are fake, but they are dead.
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/
You call dead people, fictional-dead, you might be insane.
You remind me of this fantasy junk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSZhwu1Rwo
You make up lies, and expect people to follow you?

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You use an experiment of Pyrex balls, at 3800 mph.
Are you using the fantasy missiles at 3800 mph?
Are you using 4.75 degrees like your fake photoshopped stuff, or 10 degrees.
Where there explosives in the tiny ball, the Pyrex balls?

lol, can you post some more junk like this?

Let's review, your claims are delusional fantasy, based on nonsense.

You ignore this,
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11e.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11c.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris12.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris18sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris8sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris21sm.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris22sm.jpg
Fight 93 FDR
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc04.pdf
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
Because you can't debunk tons of aircraft debris, so you lie.
You can't debunk the FDR so you have fantasy.
You can't comprehend RADAR so you lie.
 
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No, but thanks for raising the point. Show the money trail too. You know, like they did with the hijackers.

I've already shown you the most likely cause of the crater - the rest of your list should pretty much write itself.
 
Anyone else want to claim the missiles weren't in existence?

Anyone else want to throw a fit and tell me the nonexistent missile warheads wouldn't roughly match the center crater?

Anyone else want to tell me the non-existent missiles couldn't have bored through the ground?

Anyone else want to demand proof of me they won't bother asking of themselves?
 
Anyone else want to claim the missiles weren't in existence?

Anyone else want to throw a fit and tell me the nonexistent missile warheads wouldn't roughly match the center crater?

Anyone else want to tell me the non-existent missiles couldn't have bored through the ground?

Anyone else want to demand proof of me they won't bother asking of themselves?

99.9999999999 percent of the population of the world would volunteer. The missiles are non-existent.
 
Anyone else want to claim the missiles weren't in existence?

Anyone else want to throw a fit and tell me the nonexistent missile warheads wouldn't roughly match the center crater?

Anyone else want to tell me the non-existent missiles couldn't have bored through the ground?

Anyone else want to demand proof of me they won't bother asking of themselves?

You still haven't proved they WERE in existence at that time.
 
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