yankee451
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How the Shanksville Crater Was Made
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911 truth, crater not what 757 would do, 451, has missiles making the same crater?..?
The energy of impact comes out to be 1396 pounds of TNT in kinetic energy. I don't know why you failed to estimate it. Too bad you are unarmed, no physics, and can't check my math. Pity. You are about 7 years or more behind in education.
The impact crater gives up the estimate for trajectory, the FDR and engine are confirmation the aircraft attitude was -41.1 degree in pitch, and 142 degrees in roll, at 487 knots. This is confirmed by the FDR, and the crater. Too bad the FDR is empirical data, it seems you lied, you don't use empirical data, you used insane claims based on fantasy.
Here you go projecting, spreading lies about murdered people, with a missile that was not in the inventory. And you are trying to prove what? That you are the same to us, as TV is to you? You won.
You have fantasy; we pay billions to be lost in fantasy every year, it is called fiction, movies, etc. You are fantasy, you are using a name., 451 which is fiction, match your output; fiction.
We can estimate the energy of the impact by looking at the crater. Your School of Hard NKnocks does not help here, you will need physics, not your fantasy with a missile non in inventory on 911.
The energy of impact comes out to be 1396 pounds of TNT in kinetic energy. I don't know why you failed to estimate it. Too bad you are unarmed, no physics, and can't check my math. Pity. You are about 7 years or more behind in education.
The impact crater gives up the estimate for trajectory, the FDR and engine are confirmation the aircraft attitude was -41.1 degree in pitch, and 142 degrees in roll, at 487 knots. This is confirmed by the FDR, and the crater. Too bad the FDR is empirical data, it seems you lied, you don't use empirical data, you used insane claims based on fantasy.
Your claims would be a laugh if not for your disrespect for your fellow humans killed by 19 nuts who figure out 911, who did 911; and you can't equal their knowledge. You are worse than the terrorists on 911. That is failure.
Here you go projecting, spreading lies about murdered people, with a missile that was not in the inventory. And you are trying to prove what? That you are the same to us, as TV is to you? You won.
You have fantasy; we pay billions to be lost in fantasy every year, it is called fiction, movies, etc. You are fantasy, you are using a name., 451 which is fiction, match your output; fiction.
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The claim was that the warhead couldn't slice through the hard, rocky soil.
The tests show it can, and then some.
No, the claim is your fantasy missile can't make the crater to precision because it lacks the accuracy, and you failed to answer.
Then your crater, the fake one you photoshopped, was made at 4.75 degree, and you have not presented the data which shows you missile can go 3800 mph and make the same crater as a Pyrex ball.
You failed again. You are moving the goal posts, and adding woo.
Plus, you have failed to debunk this.
Why? Do you have problems with reality? Can you see the debris?
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As many/few as it would take to fool you.
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Back at HQ, Number Two leans over to Number One and murmurs:
"You realise of course that even if these missiles could strike with sufficient accuracy to cut a symmetrical plane-shaped hole, one of the first things investigators will do is measure the length of the "wing" gouges.
Flying in obliquely at just 10°, the missiles will need centimetric accuracy to make the wing lengths look right, and these missiles just don't have that capability."
He lifts his eyepatch and winks conspiratorially at Number One.
Number One speaks softly into his intercom; "Agent 451 will have the sea bass".
"You realise of course that even if these missiles could strike with sufficient accuracy to cut a symmetrical plane-shaped hole, one of the first things investigators will do is measure the length of the "wing" gouges.
Flying in obliquely at just 10°, the missiles will need centimetric accuracy to make the wing lengths look right, and these missiles just don't have that capability."
He lifts his eyepatch and winks conspiratorially at Number One.
Number One speaks softly into his intercom; "Agent 451 will have the sea bass".
What does 451 stand for? More fiction to come?
Explain why you used 4.75 degrees and 3800 mph impacts???
Good luck super Hard NKnocks top grad.
When will you answer the simple stuff you started? lol
But we did the test, I mean plagiarized some google craters made at 3800 mph, and 4.75 degrees, oops.
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dafydd
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We've done nothing else. When are you going to drop your bombshell on a stunned world instead of posting on an obscure website?
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So, still no evidence whatsoever that:
a. missiles could have, in theory, replicated the impact crater of the plane, nor
b. That missiles were used.
If one were to totally ignore all the evidence of the flight crashing there and pretend that the debris field didn't exist, you're still left with the problem of justifying missiles as a plausible alternative.
So far, no justification, no evidence, no case. The whole thread is an answer in search of a question.
a. missiles could have, in theory, replicated the impact crater of the plane, nor
b. That missiles were used.
If one were to totally ignore all the evidence of the flight crashing there and pretend that the debris field didn't exist, you're still left with the problem of justifying missiles as a plausible alternative.
So far, no justification, no evidence, no case. The whole thread is an answer in search of a question.
Who the hell has penetrating warheads come in at a 10 degree angle? Does the missile hit the ground and immediately execute a 100 degree turn to penetrate? Isn't the whole idea behind a penetrating warhead penetration?
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Not to mention that a commercial flight, UAL93 was tracked via radar from take-off to the point of impact by air traffic controllers. There is no such track for anything else, let alone cruise missiles terminating at that location.
Adventures in Wonderland continue ....
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crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/
crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead
What a croc
More like Hateland brings fantasy to new levels of stupid.
http://yankee451.com/2012/09/11/shanksville-crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead/
crocodile-tears-for-the-fictional-dead
What a croc
yankee451
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Because I read.
Based on the size of the explosives and the measurements of the crater, the weapon's warhead would make a crater roughly the size as Shanksville.
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Show us the maths.
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OK, I’m going to give you the benefit of doubt and say that a missile fired at a shallow trajectory may have been possible from the east. But what about from the west? Those trees would not allow a low trajectory shot to be possible.
Also, looking at your photo, on what heading was this third missile fired?
Why is it that no one whatsoever seen, heard, or ever reported military aircraft in the area firing missiles. Missiles with no sounds of explosion?
BTW, the “bunker buster” warhead for this missile wasn’t even in the test stage on 9/11.
In 1999, powered flight tests of the missile began. These were successful, and production of the JASSM began in December 2001. The weapon began operational testing and evaluation in 2002. Late that year, two missiles failed tests and the project was delayed for three months before completing development in April 2003. Two more launches failed, this time as a result of launcher and engine problems. In July 2007, a $68 million program to improve JASSM reliability and recertify the missile was approved by the Pentagon. A decision on whether to continue with the program was deferred until spring 2008. Lockheed agreed to fix the missiles at its own cost and has tightened up its manufacturing processes.
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You say this happened. But there was no HE blast.
Big problem, no one saw the big blast, or the multiple missiles.
How fast and what angle was the attack?
Where are the passengers from Flt 93? You sweetly called them fake?
You first modeled your fantasy with Pyrex balls at 3800 mph, photoshopped the lie, and failed to mention your 10 degrees was 4.75 degrees. How can use use explosives, that leaves evidence of explosives. Fail.
Gish-gallop away.
You forgot about the 50,000 pounds of jet fuel, and the fireball.
Oops. U B debunked again.
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Goal posts where are thou?
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no need - providing one can count beyond "1" - as the OP's theory requires 2 or 3 of the missiles to impact with a precision they're not capable of.
The question should be "how big a crater would 3 missiles make if it were possible for them to hit on the exact same spot?" Oh, and why is the impact crater not a blast crater....
I believe, however, there should be equal rights for other just-as-plausible (ie not very) hypotheses:
a. ablative-cladded supersonic bowling balls launched from low earth orbit
b. teams of ditch diggers formed from the homeless, that were killed after the job to prevent leaks. Being homeless, nobody noticed them missing
c. badgers. lots of them. trained rigorously.
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Your theory relies on the existence of missiles that did not go into production until 2002.
Your theory involves the use of classified equipment, and at least two B2 bombers. There are only 21 of them, so once again all you need to do is find out which 2 were in the air on 9/11/2001, what kind of ordinance they carried, and if they returned with all of it. If they dropped/released their goodies there will be a log as to where, and a separate log at the bombing range complete with video (you like video, no hard words).
Your theory involves military experts signing off on the single stupidest use of cruise missiles, or missiles of any kind since the Chinese invented them. Your theory outlines a plan that would have been called : "Operation Lethal Injection", for its sloppy use of men and material.
It would have made more sense to openly stage a coup.
Each one of your allegations would be easy to verify, even for a simpleton like you. How can you expect anyone to fund your scam, I mean experiment if you are so lazy?
Your theory involves the use of classified equipment, and at least two B2 bombers. There are only 21 of them, so once again all you need to do is find out which 2 were in the air on 9/11/2001, what kind of ordinance they carried, and if they returned with all of it. If they dropped/released their goodies there will be a log as to where, and a separate log at the bombing range complete with video (you like video, no hard words).
Your theory involves military experts signing off on the single stupidest use of cruise missiles, or missiles of any kind since the Chinese invented them. Your theory outlines a plan that would have been called : "Operation Lethal Injection", for its sloppy use of men and material.
It would have made more sense to openly stage a coup.
Each one of your allegations would be easy to verify, even for a simpleton like you. How can you expect anyone to fund your scam, I mean experiment if you are so lazy?
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