What strikes me most clearly from that post of Mas's that Mojo kindly reproduced is his shaky grasp of ordinary reality.
First you claimed homeopathic medicines have no molecules in above 18x potency
No, I really don't think we did. Our quoted figures for the Avogadro limit were 12C and 24X. So he's completely wrong. In fact we agree that there are probably some molecules in an 18X potency.
(you quoted hypothetical equation which was based on Avogadro’s number, I rejected that equation by presenting scientific facts)
I can't see anywhere where we presented an "equation" of any sort. There were various examples, and quite a few factual assertions, but no actual equation.
And no, Mas didn't "reject" the non-existent quotation by presenting anything, and certainly not anything resembling facts. He did come out with several half-baked remarks about vague and unspecified reactions, and wildly unlikely happenings where normal probability theory is suspended causing all the molecules to rush into his pipette, but there wasn't a single fact in there.
A hence it does not work being the reason, there is no molecules in above 18x. Hence there is no question of working homeopathic dilutions in above 18x potency?
No, Mas, it's 24X (and 12C). We've told you often enough, why can't you remember?
When it was asked to confirm, does homeopathic medicine work under 18x, as these have molecules (that was your claim it has molecules in below 18x), you came and said, whether it works or not just explain to us the working of homeopathic medicine? Is this the scientific approach, you are talking about? Just reply according to the question, whether it works in below 18x when the dilution contain molecules……????
Could anyone possibly find any quote within this or any other forum where any sceptic has actually replied to this effect? No, I didn't think so.
It's easy to argue when you simply ignore what the opposition has actually said, and make up a straw man for yourself. When you simply don't read the refutations of your half-baked positions, and instead confidently declare victory based on a fictitious account of the argument. And especially when you fun to another forum and falsely represent what has been said here to your own benefit.
I'll try it just one more time.
Mas, we KNOW that there are no molecules of the original mother tincture in potencies above about
24X and 12C. This is based on the "Law of the Conservation of Matter". Go look it up.We also know that there are no unexpected molecules of anything else in high-potency homoeopathic remedies. We thus state categorically that homoeopathic preparations cannot have any physiological effect above these dilutions. You have so far presented absolutely zero evidence to suggest the contrary.
Low-potency remedies are a different question. We see no reason to suppose that these "work" in the sense that any of the cures you claim are real. However, we would find it less startling if there were some sort of effect there, as we know there are some residual quantities of the mother tincture present. So, a claim for low-potency homoepathic remedies doing something is just a routine claim for herbal medicine, which is nothing special.
Mas, you seem to be declaring repeatedly that there are indeed molecules other than the stock solvent present in homoeopathic potencies greater than 12C and 24X. We would be interested in seeing a coherent explanation for this belief, because so far you haven't even come close.
Rolfe.
PS. I just noticed the following:
I also presented examples from your science books but again you denied and came with the words “don’t waste our time in irrelevant question and answers just explain to us how does homeopathy workâ€, mine position is, if you will not follow my lecture and if you will not give me feed back on my questions, then tell me the method of instruction, which may I adopt to teach you how does homeopathy work?
He thinks we didn't give him feedback? It's true, he can't even read.