Originally posted by Dr. MAS here
Discussing on net is something different and to do experiment for collecting actual information is totally different. In my opinion, you people only have book knowledge and you never experimented to prove anything. Why I got this impression?
First you claimed homeopathic medicines have no molecules in above 18x potency (you quoted hypothetical equation which was based on Avogadro’s number, I rejected that equation by presenting scientific facts) hence it does not work being the reason, there is no molecules in above 18x. Hence there is no question of working homeopathic dilutions in above 18x potency?
When it was asked to confirm, does homeopathic medicine work under 18x, as these have molecules (that was your claim it has molecules in below 18x), you came and said, whether it works or not just explain to us the working of homeopathic medicine? Is this the scientific approach, you are talking about? Just reply according to the question, whether it works in below 18x when the dilution contain molecules……????
This shows your attitude of unscientific nature. If you are the followers of scientific rules then what is your standpoint on this issue? Whether homeopathic medicine does work in 6x, 12x or 18x or not? If you deny then it is very easy for us to deny “Velosef (a famous allopathic drug) also does not work†because denying something without justification is also no problem to us. This is not the proper way of discussion. If you will keep on denying then how can we participate in fruitful discussion and how can you understand… “How does homeopathy work?â€
(A) To find out the answer of this question, first we must admit whether homeopathy does work?????? Or not????
(B) If it works then in which potency? If not work, then why?
© And in which potency it does not work?
(D) If it works under 12x potency then how does it work? And if it does not work in 12x then provide any practical proof with reference to known scientific laws as you (yourself) stated.
Without knowing the answers of these questions, tell me how can I teach you when you have made an attitude that you will keep on denying and you will not come with “YES†answer, when you have also made up your minds that you will not accept any thing from Dr. MAS whether I am saying right or wrong?
You can read my above lectures. All are based on facts, I also presented examples from your science books but again you denied and came with the words “don’t waste our time in irrelevant question and answers just explain to us how does homeopathy workâ€, mine position is, if you will not follow my lecture and if you will not give me feed back on my questions, then tell me the method of instruction, which may I adopt to teach you how does homeopathy work?
Let me explain my point of view by presenting another practical application (because I am not book worm who only has book knowledge, I am a practical man who believes on experimental conclusions). This is purely based on scientific facts. I am looking forward to hear replies from you.
As I said earlier, I have observed very keenly the provings of different homeopathic medicines. I have also delivered so many lectures on plants and animals provings. I have also participated in many seminars as resource person and delivered lecture on different diseases like hepatitis, AIDS and Diabetes etc
(A record from my personal file)
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She was the student of 1st year DHMS. She agreed to prove Apis on herself. Apis was placed on her backhands, face and legs. After stung, following symptoms were produced.
stinging,
burning pain,
swelling locally
Soreness
redness.
When cold and warm application were applied at different parts, following symptoms were observed
Swelling – Cold application >
Open air >
Thirst decrease
Urticaria symptoms were also seen on other body parts.
The method of scientific study is, if you found the same result after so many experiments at different level then it become a law. The Newton third law “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction†was not become a “LAW†on the very first instance. Many experiments were carried and each scientist came with the same results then it became a “lawâ€.
Our scientific study shows that whenever apis will bite, an allergic reaction will be observed in negligible, less, mild, moderate or severe or intense etc form depending upon the person susceptibility. Newton’s third law is whenever you will perform action (force) you will get opposite response, it is not possible that Apis injected the Venom / Formic acid into the person and you don’t find the response, yes, sometime the response would be so slow that it cannot be detect through naked eye or it cannot be measured through devices except some mental changeability.
The toxic effect apis venom are paralysis of the nervous system, increase in the permeability of the blood capillaries, and destruction of red blood cells. But this will always not happened due to known susceptibility and chemical changes. But you can't say, in low quantity you cannot bring those changes. Even a single molecule when enters into the body it always cause those changes which I mentioned but these changes are negligible, less, moderate, severe and intense etc. if these are less then it will not come over to indicators or labs cannot detect them. But this does not mean that you start deny the change. If I slightly touch your body with my forefinger then this does not mean that your body has not given the equal reaction as stated in 3rd law.
To prove this observation, I again carried out many experiments on different person and in few healthy person no apparent change (including pathological) were observed except that healthy person said, “I am feeling myself absent mind†which pathological lab will prove this?
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