How homeopathy does work? - 4 Years of DHMS course.

[Rolfe]

Badly Shaved Monkey: Mas, let's say that you have three apples and six pears, therefore you have nine fruits altogether....

Mas: I have already rejected the derivation of this equation. Although we have so for not offered any money on this equation but if skeptics say, they would like to prove this equation correct by submitting registeration fee then we can offer a handsome account.

Rest of the Forum:

Rolfe.

 

[Donks]

Rest of the Forum:

Rolfe.

I find it a lot more therapeutic and entertaining to go shoot something in a videogame.

 

[Rolfe]

It is pretty scary though. Here we have someone who claims to have all sorts of advanced academic degrees, and comes here announcing that he's going to educate us all, and it turns out that in fact he doesn't actually believe that 2+2=4. And intends to reject any argument which is based on the premise that 2+2 does indeed equal 4.

The idea that this person is entrusted with anyone's healthcare is simply frightening.

Rolfe.

 

[Zep]

It's more serious than that, I suspect. I'm discovering painfully that MAS and the others from NCH have yet to pass GO on basic chemistry. Even Kumar's concept of water molecules building into big "chunks" of some wonderous hydrogen/oxygen "super-molecule" simply by shaking the bottle beggars belief. Children learn enough basic chemistry in the first 6 years of school - pre-high-school usually - to know this is ridiculous fantasy and unsubstantiated by fact, and yet here he is trotting it out as a "rational" explanation for how homeopathic remedies "work".

I can only take it that similar explanations by homeopaths are based purely and solely on religious faith in their nostrums, in spite of clear and obvious facts to the contrary. That is, it's a trolling exercise on Kumar's part. Which we knew almost from the start.

 

[Rolfe]

Consider: from Kumar, regarding what Mas has to tell us:

His silence can be alike silence before a storm & his speaking alike a storm. Just take care. You may learn something from him, then????what you said?

Mas himself indicated he was well-educated

I have four bachelors and three master degrees with one Ph. D... I have done graduations in all relevant subjects of medical sciences, hence education or understanding is not problem.

and cast aspersions on Geni's knowledge:

You are asking the same question again and again without understanding what I have replied to you. For God sake, try to study basic chemistry first.

which is quite funny considering that Geni is in his final year of a chemistry degree at a very prestigious UK university.

So, after that build-up, what do we get? A denial that one litre of a molar solution of sodium sulphate contains a mole of sulphate ions.



Rolfe.

 

[Mojo]

So, after that build-up, what do we get? A denial that one litre of a molar solution of sodium sulphate contains a mole of sulphate ions.

Never mind that: we also have Qureshi, who "Dr." MAS clearly thinks is capable of carrying forward his argument (he appears to have delegated the task to Qureshi) asking what sodium sulphate is! This is someone who claims a doctorate in his sig!

To quote MAS:

For God sake, try to study basic chemistry first.

 

[Mouthfire]

Consider: from Kumar, regarding what Mas has to tell us:Mas himself indicated he was well-educatedand cast aspersions on Geni's knowledge:which is quite funny considering that Geni is in his final year of a chemistry degree at a very prestigious UK university.

So, after that build-up, what do we get? A denial that one litre of a molar solution of sodium sulphate contains a mole of sulphate ions.



Rolfe.

News flash for MAS: Basic chemistry is a "relevant subjects of medical sciences"

All of those "degrees", and he apparently doesn't even understand very basic chemistry....

 

[Mouthfire]

You know... as long as MAS is still around, he can respond to this thread too: MAS's Qualifications

 

[H'ethetheth]

summary

- Q: How does homeopathy work?
- A: Dear children. Homeopathy works how homeopathy does work:
- delirium;
- excitement;
- talking in sleep;
- vertigo;


- Q: Really? How do the principles of homeopathy produce results if there's clearly nothing but evaporated water in the sugar or lactose pills?
- A: I have rejected this equation. Try to learn some basic chemistry. In Pakistan, we are really intelligent and important. I have got some pictures to show that we're really important, would you like to see the pictures? They're real, we've got families, and seminars and did I mention that we're actually very important? Look here's a picture of an important seminar, and another one. There's Dr. MAS, he's so modest. Look, he's sitting at the back like a working man, but he's actually very important. And he's manly too. He has managed to produce several children and a horse! Here's a picture of his children and his horse, with a nice green triangle to explain that Dr. Mas has managed to produce several children and a horse. Doesn't he look important and manly?
Look! Pictures!

Look look LOOOK!!!

IMPOOORTAAANT!!

PIIIICTUUURES!!!

I am exhausted now. It is over to you.


Would that be a reasonable summary of this thread?

Originally posted by Rolfe
Rest of forum:

Indeed.

 

[Zep]

Re: summary

Would that be a reasonable summary of this thread?

Yes, but with less technical stuff involved. Oh, and we believe the horse has a homeopath PhD too.

 

[flume]

I have already rejected the derivation of this equation.

Then what on earth do you people teach all those students in your chemistry classes?

You have not explained WHY you reject this.

This is very strange.

 

[flume]

 

[flume]

Then what on earth do you people teach all those students in your chemistry classes?

You have not explained WHY you reject this.

This is very strange.

Maybe this is a student's prank?

(oops, meant to edit my previous post)

 

[H'ethetheth]

...Maybe this is a student's prank?

I hope to God¹ it is. If it is, it's a good one. If it isn't, it corroborates my suspicion that inanity will bring about the end of the world.





¹ The proverbial God, that is.

 

[Rolfe]

Learned veterinary society

See the learned meeting the veterinary society of which I am Hon. Secretary had last week. (It ran for 5 hours, 5pm to 10pm, but that includes the time to eat the dinner, so I wouldn't make too much of it.)

See the President, here with the Senior Vice-president.

The President thinks homoeopathy is witchcraft, and is amazed that anyone still believes in it in the 21st century. See the President's big gold chain! That proves the President must be right!

See all the learned Fellows attending the meeting.

All the chairs are occupied, which proves that everything I say must be right.

Rolfe.

 

[Donks]

Errr, uhmmm, Rolfe? You might want to get some new blood into that society of yours, they all look kinda old

/runs and hides

 

[H'ethetheth]

Errr, uhmmm, Rolfe? You might want to get some new blood into that society of yours, they all look kinda old

/runs and hides

Actually, that was my first thought as well. That, and they don't seem to enjoy themselves very much in that first picture, despite their (no doubt wine-induced) rosy cheeks.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

That must be Rolfe near the center of the table in two of the shots, since there's only one female in the picture.

I always thought you were a bit younger, Rolfe.

 

[Nucular]

(no doubt wine-induced) rosy cheeks.

Or perhaps that rosiness is induced by the vaguely awkward knowledge that each of them has of the other: that they have all, at some point in their lives, had their arm, up to the shoulder, inside a cow.


However, to return to topic (well, a bit)...


I doubt the "student prank" hypothesis (which will obviously increase said students' glee by 10%) - they'd have had to invent that whole Pakistan homeopathy society thing, and manufacture a web presence at least for MAS that seems to go back years, and design web pages, and produce photos of the same guy at various different places... I wish it was the case, but I fear these posters are at least one real person. And I fear more that they are as many people as they claim to be

 

[Perpetual Notion]

Errr, uhmmm, Rolfe? You might want to get some new blood into that society of yours, they all look kinda old

/runs and hides

No, no, no. Those vets are all probably in their thirties, including the Super Sexy Rolfe. Everyone in Britain over the age of 25 looks like that. It's from lack of sunlight. If you take them to Spain, expose them to sunlight and dip them in the warm ocean, they plump right back up and look just like Spice Girls/Boys.