How homeopathy does work? - 4 Years of DHMS course.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

"CHILDRENS ARE SITTING"

What? Were you worried we might think they were his troupe of midgets?

 

[Qureshi1_78]

Dear Dr. MAS

I am exhausted now.

bye

It is over to you.

 

[Rolfe]

Dear Dr. MAS

I am exhausted now.

bye

It is over to you.

But you haven't even started! All you've done is the preliminary pleasantries!

When is one of you going to start explaining your theory of how homoeopathy works? You've been promising this for weeks, but never a word of actual explanation.

Soon, I'll start to think that you have no more belief that homoeopathy works than I do. Maybe you should apply for your own prize!

Rolfe.

 

[Qureshi1_78]

When you will remove your signature.

 

[Rolfe]

When you will remove your signature.

Oh dearie me no! In fact, what I must do is to re-post the saved thread the link went to, before it was deleted at H'pathy because they can't face the truth - which is that homoeopaths are a bunch of dangerous, deluded, moneygrubbing quacks who will let people die of serious diseases either because they're too uneducated to realise how serious the situation is, or because they're so conceited they really think that magic sugar pills can cure serious diseases.

However, I note yet another excuse and evasion to get out of posting an explanation - an explanation it is becoming increasingly clear you don't have.

Edited to add: Link fixed. At least, page 1 is available, and that's the most interesting part. I have pages 2 and 3 too, but I'll have to edit the code a little to restore the intra-thread links. Thanks for the prompt, Qureshi, now everyone can see how dangerous you people - especially Snoopy and Syed - are, once again.

Rolfe.

 

[Nucular]

I'm sorry, I think this little exchange deserves an action replay. When I read it, I didn't know whether to laugh, applaud, or smash a plate over my head in sheer disbelief.

Qureshi

Is there going to come a time when you'll address the actual topics of this thread?

So for I have given response on your posts, when you will come to the topic then I would be having no hesitation.

Dear Dr. MAS

I am exhausted now.

bye

It is over to you.

When is one of you going to start explaining your theory of how homoeopathy works? You've been promising this for weeks, but never a word of actual explanation.

When you will remove your signature

Let no-one be in any doubt - as if anybody reading these threads could be any more - that these people will never answer a single straightforward question about homeopathy.

Qureshi, can't you see what a joke you're making of what you claim to be your profession?

 

[Mojo]

At least Qureshi has done something constructive; he's confirmed that MAS is a fraud:

He has one or two Ph.D, I can't comment but I know he does not own those degrees. He just write in the sense that other own such type of degrees at higher level to impress others which are not acceptable in Pakistan just like MD. He has done MD but does not own MD because that MD is not acceptable by Higher Education Commission (HEC) which is the ultimate authority to recognize degrees in Pakistan.

'Nuff said.

 

[Zep]

I'll bet his horse has a PhD too.

 

[Jeff Corey]

And the eohippus it rode in on.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

At least Qureshi has done something constructive; he's confirmed that MAS is a fraud:'Nuff said.

Ditto.

 

[Qureshi1_78]

I can see your glittering faces... How happy you are

 

[Zep]

No, Qureshi, it's actually rather sad. Once again, someone who was said to us was a famous and knowledgeable homeopath who could explain all the science and technicalities of homeopathy with ease has turned out to be yet another ill-informed amateur poseur. And you have helped unmask his position.

Do you understand what that means?

 

[Qureshi1_78]

Do you understand what that means?

I very much know what I am doing. When I was running straight on the track you were trying to detrack me and now if I have been detracked you are trying to put me back on track.

When in simple form few homeopaths trying to convince you, you never came on track and when we changed our strategy now you want point to point serious discussion.

Ok, if you all agree, we will participate seriously and we will not raise fingers on personal level then we may become serious again.

 

[Donks]

Ok, if you all agree, we will participate seriously and we will not raise fingers on personal level then we may become serious again.

I agree. Let the serious discussion begin. Would you like to begin by adressing BSM's post?

Originally posted by Badly Shaved Monkey, about half a century ago.


MAS, let's say you have a 1ml of 1 molar solution of Na₂SO₄ solution. In 1 litre you would have 6.022 x 10²³ of each of the component moieties of Na₂SO₄. In 100ml you will have 6.022 x 10²².

If you want to use this as the basis for your next 1 in 100 dilution you will draw 1ml into a pipette and add 99ml water.

If the solution was well-mixed when you drew up that 1ml it will contain 6.022 x 10²⁰ of each of the components of Na₂SO₄.

You have suggested that there may be some other number drawn up.



How many? What are the chances that the aspirate will contain a number substantially different from 6.022 x 10²⁰?

Edit: Changed some stuff...

 

[Qureshi1_78]

MAS, let's say you have a 1ml of 1 molar solution of Na2SO4 solution. In 1 litre you would have 6.022 x 1023 of each of the component moieties of Na2SO4. In 100ml you will have 6.022 x 1022.

(1)What is Na2So4?

If you want to use this as the basis for your next 1 in 100 dilution you will draw 1ml into a pipette and add 99ml water.

If the solution was well-mixed when you drew up that 1ml it will contain 6.022 x 1020 of each of the components of Na2SO4.

You have suggested that there may be some other number drawn up.



How many? What are the chances that the aspirate will contain a number substantially different from 6.022 x 1020?

You ask for serious discussion. I agree.

One question is floated above (2) why did you take this?

(3) is it applicable on each potency of homeopathy? like belladonna, opium, plumbum met, arg nit etc

Please follow up point to point.

 

[Donks]

(1)What is Na2So4?

Sodium Sulphate. You might know it as "Nat Sulph" or "Natrum Sulphuricum."

(2) why did you take this?

source
Natrum Sulphuricum (Sodium Sulphate (Glauber's Salt) is a homeopathic remedy indicated for nausea, biliousness, dermatitis, rheumatism, hepatobiliary disorders, bronchial asthma, diarrhea, and trauma suffered by nervous system. www.lifesvigor.com

(3) is it applicable on each potency of homeopathy? like belladonna, opium, plumbum met, arg nit etc

The link I posted above sells it at 30X.

Please follow up point to point. please

Done, over to you.

 

[flume]

(1)What is Na2So4?

You ask for serious discussion. I agree.

One question is floated above (2) why did you take this?

(3) is it applicable on each potency of homeopathy? like belladonna, opium, plumbum met, arg nit etc

Please follow up point to point.

Your questions (2) and (3)are not clear to me, but I will add some suggestions that might help to answer them.

If your question (2) is asking why BSM picked sodium sulfate, I think there are two reasons.

First, Dr. MAS had talked about using Nat. Sulfuricum as a treatment in some previous post, so this remedy had already been brought up by Dr. MAS.

Second, it is a simple example to talk about (easier than a complicated remedy like an extract of bees).
It has been difficult to understand the arguments of different homeopaths when they talk about dilution and Avogadro's number. It is easier to start the discussion with a simple remedy. Their arguments need to be able to explain dilution of the simple chemicals like sodium sulfate and sodium chloride. And once we can understand each other about the dilution of simple chemicals it will be easier to communicate about more complicated ones.

For your question (3), when you talk about materials which may not be very soluble in the diluting material, or which might have some reaction with that material, or which contain many different molecules, it will be easier to talk about those after we have a good communication about the simple ones. (Some posts have already talked about those examples.The molecules will still be diluted out.)

In the post you quoted was this section:

You have suggested that there may be some other number drawn up.
How many? What are the chances that the aspirate will contain a number substantially different from 6.022 x 1020?

In case you don't remember why this question was asked, it was in response to this Dr. MAS post.

 

[Zep]

I very much know what I am doing. When I was running straight on the track you were trying to detrack me and now if I have been detracked you are trying to put me back on track.

When in simple form few homeopaths trying to convince you, you never came on track and when we changed our strategy now you want point to point serious discussion.

Ok, if you all agree, we will participate seriously and we will not raise fingers on personal level then we may become serious again.

Excuses, excuses...

However I am perfectly happy to be serious, along with everyone else, if you can. I can see you have been presented with a simple chemical situation by BSM, Donks and flume. I, too, would like to see your discussion and theory on this exercise. I shall now sit quietly while you address this audience.

 

[Qureshi1_78]

(3) is it applicable on each potency of homeopathy? like belladonna, opium, plumbum met, arg nit etc
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The link I posted above sells it at 30X.[/quote

Thanks, that good.

Is the av/g formula (you explained above) applicable on each homeopathic potency?

 

[Qureshi1_78]

I shall now sit quietly while you address this audience.

Hi Dr. MAS

It is over to you, you complained your students that they are not serious and you sent me to take extra periods of yours. It is over to you.