How homeopathy does work? - 4 Years of DHMS course.

[Zep]

Well well. Why am I not surprised.

You know, Qureshi, it says in your sig that you are, and I quote:

Dr. I. A. Qureshi

That means YOU are a DOCTOR and should at least know what you are doing with homeopathic medicines. Do you not?

If you DON'T know, how do you get away with prescribing to people medicine that you know nothing about and can't describe how it works or even how it is made? Where on earth did you get a license to practice medicine at all?

If you DO know, why run away and leave the problem of explaining something as simple as homeopathic medicine to someone else? And that someone else has already run away without answering questions too?

Hmmmm. In fact, you and Dr MAS are so similar in word and deed here that I would be tempted to say you are one and the same person...

 

[flume]

Is the av/g formula (you explained above) applicable on each homeopathic potency?

It is not clear what formula you mean by the 'av/g' formula. Maybe you could put more details into your question. Or we can wait for Dr. MAS.

 

[Donks]

Is the av/g formula (you explained above) applicable on each homeopathic potency?

If you are deriving some formula from what BSM posted, I'd need to see it before answering whether it is applicable or not. Yes, you could easily derive a simple formula that would be applicable at any level of dilution, based on that post alone. No, I have no idea if you did that.

 

[Darat]

Well well. Why am I not surprised.

You know, Qureshi, it says in your sig that you are, and I quote:That means YOU are a DOCTOR and should at least know what you are doing with homeopathic medicines. Do you not?

...snip...

They may not know what there are doing. The Pakistani authorities state there are many homeopathic "Doctors" who are nothing more then "quacks" who cheat people of their money and also cause direct harm by their “remedies”.

 

[Donks]

Hi Dr. MAS

It is over to you, you complained your students that they are not serious and you sent me to take extra periods of yours. It is over to you.

So that's it? The "serious discussion" was asking a couple of inane questions, and not answering any?

 

[Zep]

So that's it? The "serious discussion" was asking a couple of inane questions, and not answering any?

Y'know, Kumar used to do this - get backed into a corner and then say "I've had enough of you. I'm going to run away now." So it would not surprise me if this "Qureshi" and our dear old "Kumar" don't live a million miles from each other, or look like each other, or share the same offices at work...

 

[Donks]

Y'know, Kumar used to do this - get backed into a corner and then say "I've had enough of you. I'm going to run away now." So it would not surprise me if this "Qureshi" and our dear old "Kumar" don't live a million miles from each other, or look like each other, or share the same offices at work...

Lately homeopaths have been boring me to tears. If this is the best they can do, I can't see how so many people have been swindled by them.

 

[Zep]

If this is the best they can do, I can't see how so many people have been swindled by them.

You don't have to be smarter than your victim to be a swindler. You just have to appear to be so. Hence the NCH preponderence for lengthy titles at the expense of actual knowledge.

 

[Mojo]

So that's it? The "serious discussion" was asking a couple of inane questions, and not answering any?

Well, he posted some holiday snaps as well...

 

[Donks]

Well, he posted some holiday snaps as well...

Wanna see pictures of my trip to Egypt? Those are bound to get me a gold medal for something from the homeopaths

 

[Mouthfire]

So that's it? The "serious discussion" was asking a couple of inane questions, and not answering any?

Well, did you expect any less? In terms of homeopaths, they aren't even a good bunch of homeopaths. At least the better ones can put together a somewhat logical argument. All these fellows seem to be doing is acting like a bunch of 5 year olds. Not very appropriate for people who consider themselves doctors.

 

[Zep]

A quick question, Qureshi. Is that your face you are using as your avatar?

 

[Perpetual Notion]

So that's it? The "serious discussion" was asking a couple of inane questions, and not answering any?

I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED, I tell you!

 

[Dr. MAS]

Dear Dr. MAS

I am exhausted now.

bye

It is over to you.

You are exhausted so early.

Anyway thanks. I am back online. You may take rest.

 

[Dr. MAS]

MAS, let's say you have a 1ml of 1 molar solution of Na2SO4 solution. In 1 litre you would have 6.022 x 1023 of each of the component moieties of Na2SO4. In 100ml you will have 6.022 x 1022 ....snip

I have already rejected the derivation of this equation. Although we have so for not offered any money on this equation but if skeptics say, they would like to prove this equation correct by submitting registeration fee then we can offer a handsome account.

 

[Donks]

I have already rejected the derivation of this equation. Although we have so for not offered any money on this equation but if skeptics say, they would like to prove this equation correct by submitting registeration fee then we can offer a handsome account.

You rejected what exactly? Did you reject that in 1 lt of a 1 molar solution of Na₂SO₄ solution there are 6.022 x 10²³ of each of the components? By what stroke of homeopathic assertion are you rejecting that?

 

[Zep]

I have already rejected the derivation of this equation.

You have done no such thing. So far, you have simply ignored it, and tried to substitute some laughable proposition about "Probability Law" that has nothing whatsoever to do with either probability OR chemistry.

Although we have so for not offered any money on this equation but if skeptics say, they would like to prove this equation correct by submitting registeration fee then we can offer a handsome account.

Why do we need to pay any money to YOU to prove what we already know to be true?

Oh, I see. You and Qureshi are not really two separate people, are you. You go, Qureshi appears. Qureshi goes, you appear. Quite mysterious!

Not.

 

[Rolfe]

You rejected what exactly? Did you reject that in 1 lt of a 1 molar solution of Na₂SO₄ solution there are 6.022 x 10²³ of each of the components? By what stroke of homeopathic assertion are you rejecting that?

Well, actually, there is a small mistake (or rather imprecision) in that statement, as BSM already acknowledged.

Because there are two sodium ions for each sulphate ion, then in a litre of 1 molar Na₂SO₄ solution there will in fact be 6.022 x 10²³ sulphate ions and 12.044 x 10²³ sodium ions.

This isn't an equation, it's a simple numerical fact. To deny it is a bit like saying, I deny that the dots on the six sides of a die add up to 21. A bit of a facer if you're trying to discuss snakes-and-ladders tactics.

Mas, why do you say that there are not 6.022 x 10²³ sulphate ions and 12.044 x 10²³ sodium ions in a litre of 1 molar sodium sulphate? Do you not realise that this is the basic definition? It's like saying that there aren't twelve apples in a dozen!

Rolfe.

 

[Gaga]

I have already rejected the derivation of this equation. Although we have so for not offered any money on this equation but if skeptics say, they would like to prove this equation correct by submitting registeration fee then we can offer a handsome account.

Did you?
The only answer I could find after some digging in your posts is some statement about the formation of new compounds. You didn't care to expand the concept beyond those assertions nor did you do the math to support them.
If there's something else that I overlooked please point it out and I'll stand corrected.

 

[Donks]

Well, actually, there is a small mistake (or rather imprecision) in that statement, as BSM already acknowledged.

Because there are two sodium ions for each sulphate ion, then in a litre of 1 molar Na₂SO₄ solution there will in fact be 6.022 x 10²³ sulphate ions and 12.044 x 10²³ sodium ions.

Actually I noticed that, but I was too lazy to clarify the point. I was hoping someone else would come by and clarify it for me, thanks