Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

[tusenfem]

Why don't you take it up with Dr. Christopher Holloman’s team of researchers at The Ohio State University ?

My bold

You can bold what you want, the model in this case is a complicated way of correlating A with B, it is NOT a model in the physical sense in that it gives an actual physical process that explains how the sun generates the earthquakes. If Dr. Holloman does not have that, he only has correlation WITHOUT causation.

But hey, who would expect you to understand your cherry pick quote mining?

Here is a paper correlating "Traffic accident in India in relation with solar and geomagnetic activity parameters and cosmic ray intensity (1989 to 2010)"

 

[Haig]

Neither can you, or else you would point us to a real model in which the how and what is explained.

Interestingly, on 25 April, the sun was almost spotless! And I do think there was a little quake somewhere.

You've not been paying attention tusenfem

It's not just "any" sunspots, it's Earth directed ones. It's also Earth directed :- coronal holes, detaching filaments, CME's, Flares etc

Sounds like you need to look into our variable star a bit more !

Here is a place to start from ... Sun Series

 

[Haig]

You can bold what you want, the model in this case is a complicated way of correlating A with B, it is NOT a model in the physical sense in that it gives an actual physical process that explains how the sun generates the earthquakes. If Dr. Holloman does not have that, he only has correlation WITHOUT causation.

But hey, who would expect you to understand your cherry pick quote mining?

Here is a paper correlating "Traffic accident in India in relation with solar and geomagnetic activity parameters and cosmic ray intensity (1989 to 2010)"

You're beginning to sound like RC


Earthquakes and the Solar System

Published on 6 Jan 2014
1) Magnetic Polarity Data: http://wso.stanford.edu/Polar.html -- it has stopped updating since 11/23/2013.
2) Jupiter opposes the sun now, and Venus conjoins Mercury on January 8th. Anyone see that coronal hole coming in now?
3) There are some things you cannot un-see. If indeed the IMF and coronal holes are quake factors as I suggested for 2 years, then the underlying magnetics of the sun MUST be relevant to seismicity. I THOUGHT I was going to find an answer to the baffling quake droughts! ...I'm still in shock at how perfectly this matches.
4) Today's news will appear on the website only, in a few hrs, going back to sleep. Be safe everyone.

 

[Haig]

Some more food for thought

X2.7 Solar Flare, CME Impact | S0 News May 6, 2015

 

[tusenfem]

Still only blah blah, no physical model how the sun generates earthquakes.
With no physical model, correlation does not mean causation.

 

[catsmate]

I note Haig that you have failed to answer why there was no spate of tectonic activity related to the 1882 incident. Especially given the huge sunspot of 18NOV1882 which was easily visible to the unaided eye.

 

[tusenfem]

I note Haig that you have failed to answer why there was no spate of tectonic activity related to the 1882 incident. Especially given the huge sunspot of 18NOV1882 which was easily visible to the unaided eye.

Or why there was very little sunspot activity last week ....

 

[Haig]

I note Haig that you have failed to answer why there was no spate of tectonic activity related to the 1882 incident. Especially given the huge sunspot of 18NOV1882 which was easily visible to the unaided eye.

Or why there was very little sunspot activity last week ....

Sure I can answer that ...


It's due to our variable star ...

NASA are on the case so don't worry The 'Variable Sun' Mission

Woods expects EVE to reveal how fast the sun can change—"we really don't know," he points out—and to surprise astronomers with the size of the outbursts.
EVE, AIA, HMI. For the next five years, the Solar Dynamics Observatory will use these instruments to redefine our star and its potential for variability. What unorthodox ideas will they beam back? Old teachings beware!

I expect they will suggest a better explanation than you tusenfem " a high accident rate in India "

 

[tusenfem]

Sure I can answer that ...

It's due to our variable star ...

That is, as usual not an answer

NASA are on the case so don't worry The 'Variable Sun' Mission

So SDO has been flying for over 4 years already, so I am sure haig can point us to scientific publications that show how this variable sun is creating earthquakes. When NASA is on the case, there must be some results, no?

I expect they will suggest a better explanation than you tusenfem " a high accident rate in India "

Apparently, the irony of my post was unappreciated.

So I found 163 papers with SDO in the title. Combining this with "earthquake" in the abstract, the result was ZERO papers.

 

[Haig]

That is, as usual not an answer



So SDO has been flying for over 4 years already, so I am sure haig can point us to scientific publications that show how this variable sun is creating earthquakes. When NASA is on the case, there must be some results, no?

Sure it was an answer. you saw the link to NASA

Can't you see the potential for advancing our knowledge of the Sun - Earth connection ? Some at NASA can

Apparently, the irony of my post was unappreciated.

It was pathetic.

It's NOT only "earthquakes" and the connection will be uncovered. To quote NASA " What unorthodox ideas will they beam back? Old teachings beware! "

 

[Haig]

More on the Sun - Earth connection

Big Quake, Magnetic Storm, Top Stories | S0 News May 7, 2015

 

[Rum]

Started to watch the video but turned it off as soon as he used the words 'planetary alignment' a few seconds in..

 

[jonesdave116]

Sun caused earthquakes. Dear me, whatever next? Electric stars, electric comets?

 

[Haig]

Started to watch the video but turned it off as soon as he used the words 'planetary alignment' a few seconds in..

It's your choice but it might be a bit hasty based on an out of date understanding of 'planetary alignment'

Did you know NASA discovered "magnetic ropes" stretch from our Sun all the way to Earth's magnetosphere !

Dec. 11, 2007: NASA's fleet of THEMIS spacecraft, launched less than 8 months ago, has made three important discoveries about spectacular eruptions of Northern Lights called "substorms" and the source of their power. The discoveries include giant magnetic ropes that connect Earth's upper atmosphere to the Sun and explosions in the outskirts of Earth's magnetic field.

The Sun-Earth Connection (& Other Considerations) PDF

And then there's the tail of Venus that NASA discovered was long enough to almost tickle the Earth !

Science : Planet's tail of the unexpected

NE of our neighbouring planets can still pack a few surprises, it seems. Using satellite data, an international team of researchers has found that Venus sports a giant, ion-packed tail that stretches almost far enough to tickle the Earth when the two planets are in line with the Sun.

"I didn't expect to find it," says team member Marcia Neugebauer of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. "It's a really strong signal, and there's no doubt it's real."

NASA's Pioneer Venus Orbiter first found the tail in the late 1970s. Around 70 000 kilometres from the planet, the spacecraft detected bursts of hot, energetic ions, or plasma. The tail exists because ions in Venus's upper atmosphere are bombarded by the solar wind, a stream of plasma that blows out from the Sun.

But now Europe's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO), a project partly sponsored by NASA, has shown

VENUS: MAGNETIC FIELD AND MAGNETOSPHERE

The high-altitude wake of Venus is permeated with structured magnetic fields that generally point sunward or antisunward and often exhibit a 'double-lobed' structure like an intrinsic planetary magnetotail. However, examination of the polarities of the fields in the lobes shows them to be coupled closely to the interplanetary field and resulting draped magnetosheath field orientations. As shown in Figure 1, this 'induced' magnetotail can be pictured as an extension of the magnetosheath, with the draped interplanetary fields sinking into the ionospheric obstacles' wake. The draping of the field in the induced magnetotail is observed to be enhanced beyond that in the surrounding magnetosheath. This enhancement has been attributed to the 'mass loading' of those interplanetary flux tubes that pass closest to the ionopause and form the magnetotail by virtue of heavy ionospheric ion production on those passing flux tubes. In this sense, Venus can be likened to a comet, which has an induced magnetotail of similar origin.

The above examples should give you pause for thought !

The alignment of planets may be more significant than you think !

 

[CapelDodger]

Did you know NASA discovered "magnetic ropes" stretch from our Sun all the way to Earth's magnetosphere !

Is that where you see earthquakes happening? It would explain a lot.

 

[catsmate]

Sure I can answer that ...


It's due to our variable star ...

So no answer for why your theory doesn't match the facts then?

Sun caused earthquakes. Dear me, whatever next? Electric stars, electric comets?

Planets growing into stars...

 

[ferd burfle]

It's your choice but it might be a bit hasty based on an out of date understanding of 'planetary alignment'

And then there's the tail of Venus that NASA discovered was long enough to almost tickle the Earth !

The above examples should give you pause for thought !

The alignment of planets may be more significant than you think !

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Haig, please show the reference to sun-caused earthquakes in your spam links or refrain from posting off-topic spam.

 

[Haig]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289738

Just the lies one would expect from that source. Do you have any real predictions made by mainstream climate scientists which have not panned out? You've been claiming for years that they exist; even you must have identified at least one.



Typical of the lies to be expected from your source.


"Supposed" by whom - you? When was it proposed that by 2006 the planet would have warmed by 0.3C and from what? Enquiring minds would love to know.

For predictions of the ice-age which has failed to cometh ask ak WattsUpMyButt, they have lots of faithful believers over there. In particular you might want to ask your guru Piers Corbyn how the last ten years of his "long-term cooling trend" (which he claims began in 2005) have worked out and where he might have gone wrong.

You on the other hand have been right all along ? Is that what your claiming ?

Climate change is driven by our variable star and the evidence is growing daily.


Solar Cycle Update

Two useful things we would like to know are the length of Solar Cycle 24 and the amplitude of Solar Cycle 25. Figure 1 below shows the NOAA version of Solar Cycle 24 progression with the 23/24 transition copied onto the end of their projection. This crude method (we don’t have another) suggests that the 24/25 transition will be at the end of 2021 which would make Solar Cycle 24 twelve years long. Solar physicists have generally given up forecasting Solar Cycle 25 amplitude. The only extant forecast is Livingstone and Penn’s forecast of an amplitude of seven. In the bigger picture, almost a decade after Schatten and Tobiska forecast a return to a Maunder Minimum-like level of activity, another solar physicist, Mark Giampapa of the National Solar Observatory in Tuscon, Arizona, is of the opinion that “we are heading into a Maunder Minimum” that could last until 2080.

My bold in the last sentence.

Solar Activity Heading for a Maunder Minimum?


Care to comment on the above ?

 

[Mikemcc]

Yet, despite the low sunspot count the ocean heat content and the surface temperatures continue to rise as you have been repeatedly shown.

 

[bit_pattern]

You on the other hand have been right all along ? Is that what your claiming ?

Yes. Whereas YOU have some deranged notion that somebody somewhere predicted a 2C temp increase by 2006. That is as insane as it it is laughably misinformed. Like, you'd have the be both to reach that conclusion.