Haig and his Sun caused earthquakes

Haig: New Maunder Minimum = new Little Ice Age is a fantasy

Your missing the point RC
Wrong, Haig, I did not miss the point that you did not and still do not understand that the NASA article does not mention earthquakes.

You do not have to repeat the point that you are ignorant about what science and scientists do. NASA did not know everything about the Sun so obviously they launched the SDO spacecraft to study the Sun :jaw-dropp!

You do not have to repeat the point that you rely on obviously biased (an energy investment bank newsletter this time!) and ignorant PDFs you find on the web rather than science. We all know that!

Here we have a repeat of your ignorance about climate science by citing a newsletter mentioning an ignorant about climate science astrophysicist (Habibullo Abdussamatov). That newspaper is so ignorant that they think he is a climate scientist :jaw-dropp!

You do not have to repeat the point that you seem to think that readers of this thread here are ignorant about the Sun. We know that the solar cycles are weakening. We know that there are authors thinking that this could be a new Maunder Minimum within the next century. We know that this will not stop global warming. We know that a new Little Ice Age from an new Maunder Minimum is a fantasy not backed up by climate science.
 
Consider these points
Consider that these points are just you obsessing with a crank video channel yet again, Haig.
Add to that what looks like your ignorance about the basic geophysics that the magnetic field of the Earth reverses every so often!
 
As far as I can see, this thread is about discussing climate science - not endless repeats of the invalid science that a new Maunder Minimum will stop global warming when the climate science says that it will not.

For example regurgitating Habibullo Abdussamatov's invalid claims about sun spots and climate change via WUWT as if you were ignorant about the climate science that debunks his claims means that I suspect that your post and my reply will be moved there.

As far as I can see, this thread is about discussing Global Warming - not endless repeats of the invalid science that a man made Co2 will cause catastrophic global warming when the climate science says that it will not.

A benefit of increased Carbon Dioxide: increased efficiency in tree growth, no “Mike’s Nature trick” needed
From the University of Exeter: Increased atmospheric carbon dioxide makes trees use water more efficiently

The increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration has allowed trees across Europe to use their available water resources more efficiently, new research has shown.

Over the course of the 20th century, the so-called water use efficiency has risen nearly 20% from the increase in atmospheric CO2 concentrations.

Something else to consider RC

Lewandowsky’s Competing Theories for Source of Bias in Scientific Research
When global warming was occurring faster than climate models expected during the 1990s, there was little effort by the mainstream climate science community to look into why, despite plenty of skeptic voices (such as our own) pointing to the influence of natural variability. Instead, headlines proclaimed “Global warming worse than expected,” which fueled the human-caused climate change hysteria (favored by the 1990s White House) and helped build the push for calls to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels. But since the late 1990s, there has been no statistically significant warming trend in the highly-cited HadCRU4 temperature record, and both the RSS and UAH satellite records are now in their 21st consecutive year without a significant trend. This behavior contrasted with, and called into question, the veracity of climate model projections. And it was these projections upon which rested the case for a dangerous human influence on the climate. Again, skeptic voices were raised in objection to the mainstream view of climate change and the need for government intervention. But this time, the skeptic voices were accompanied by data that clearly showed that rather than “worse than expected,” climate change was actually proceeding at a quite modest pace.

It was only then, with the threat of losing support for actions to mitigate climate change—actions that a top U.N. climate official, Christine Figueres, described as an effort “to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history” —that the mainstream climate community started to pay attention and began investigating the “hiatus” or “pause”—the words so despised by Lewandowsky and Oreskes.
 
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Don't be so sure RC :cool:
More obsession with a crank video channel rather than science, Haig.
So I am sure that you are becoming even more incapable of citing any valid science, Haig :p.
If you think that I am stupid enough to waste my time looking at every crank video you link to then you need to think again . A couple of times to confirm how deluded they are is enough for me.

The list of citations confirms the deluded nature of this video.
 
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More obsession with a crank video channel rather than science, Haig.
So I am sure that you are becoming even more incapable of citing any valid science, Haig :p.
If you think that I am stupid enough to waste my time looking at every crank video you link to then you need to think again . A couple of times to confirm how deluded they are is enough for me.

The list of citations confirms the deluded nature of this video.


If you had bothered to view this Top 6 Climate Change Problems video you would see it makes valid points that you can't even argue against or haven't tried too ;)

Then you claim "This page contains the citation list for this video" is deluded when it has many links from mainstream such as ... noaa, esa, nasa, nationalgeographic, phys.org to name just a few.

Don't think you read or understood much RC in your rush to shooting ad homs from the hip :eek:
 
As far as I can see, this thread is about discussing Global Warming - not endless repeats of the invalid science that a man made Co2 will cause catastrophic global warming when the climate science says that it will not.
Haig - that statement is totally ignorant about climate science.
No matter how many times climate science deniers deny it, climate science states that man made CO2 is causing the current global warming and will cause catastrophic global warming if allowed to continue unabated.

A WUWT article lying about the hockey stick being wrong is not climate science, Haig. This is climate science: What evidence is there for the hockey stick?
Since the hockey stick paper in 1998, there have been a number of proxy studies analysing a variety of different sources including corals, stalagmites, tree rings, boreholes and ice cores. They all confirm the original hockey stick conclusion: the 20th century is the warmest in the last 1000 years and that warming was most dramatic after 1920.


An Anthony Watts rant about "Mick's Nature trick" - the documented practice of replacing bad proxy data with good instrumental data! - is not climate science, Haig.

Anthony Watts ignorance of climate science is not climate science, Haig :eek:!
Tree-ring proxies and the divergence problem
The divergence problem is a physical phenomenon - tree growth has slowed or declined in the last few decades, mostly in high northern latitudes. The divergence problem is unprecedented, unique to the last few decades, indicating its cause may be anthropogenic. The cause is likely to be a combination of local and global factors such as warming-induced drought and global dimming. Tree-ring proxy reconstructions are reliable before 1960, tracking closely with the instrumental record and other independent proxies.

It does not matter how many times you cite ignorant WUWT articles, the climate science remains. A minor benefit for trees is unlikely to balance millions of people being displaced by rising sea levels (it is probable that a couple of Pacific nations will actually vanish under the water!).

How climate science denial affects the scientific community
Climate change denial in public discourse may encourage climate scientists to over-emphasize scientific uncertainty and is also affecting how they themselves speak -- and perhaps even think -- about their own research.
is about the bad psychological effects of climate science denial, e.g. from sources such as WUWT.
Stephan Lewandowsky points out that the language used about the "pause" or "hiatus" did not reflect the actual situation: "Multiple lines of evidence indicate that global warming continues unabated, which implies that talk of a 'pause' or 'hiatus' is misleading." He then speculates about why scientists would be so affected by contrarian public discourse.
Stephan Lewandowsky concludes
"Climate scientists have done a great job pursuing their science under great political pressure and they have tirelessly rebutted pseudoscientific arguments against their work. However, sometimes scientists have inadvertently allowed contrarian claims to frame the language of their scientific thinking, leading us to overstate uncertainty and under-communicate knowledge.

"Knowing about one's own susceptibility to outside pressure is half the battle: our research may therefore enable scientists to recognise the potential for this seepage of contrarian arguments into their own language and thinking."
 
If you had bothered to view
If you had bothered to read what I wrote
More obsession with a crank video channel rather than science, Haig.
So I am sure that you are becoming even more incapable of citing any valid science, Haig :p.
If you think that I am stupid enough to waste my time looking at every crank video you link to then you need to think again . A couple of times to confirm how deluded they are is enough for me.

The list of citations confirms the deluded nature of this video.
then you will see that I am not going to waste more of my time looking at the crank videos you cite because you are citing crank video, Haig!
I actually like most of the first bits of the videos where the narrator presents actual observations. But then he goes onto ignorant fantasies about those observations.


I can look at the citations and see enough deluded and/or ignorant citations to know that the video is equally deluded and/or ignorant, e.g.
* citing the WUWT climate denial web site
* the delusion that weather is climate repeated several times :jaw-dropp!
* the "Paraguay Temp Data Changed" climate denier myth - this is the delusion that we should throw away weather station data because weather stations change! Or the equally deluded idea that only raw data is valid.
* the total delusion that Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus are the Earth :p. Actually this looks like the "It is the Sun" myth + "the author is ignorant about planets".
* We do not understand the Sun ... so any fantasy about the Sun can be held?
* 12 May 2015 Haig: New Maunder Minimum = new Little Ice Age is a fantasy
 
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As far as I can see, this thread is about discussing Global Warming...


Wrong again, as you are with so many things. Go back and read the thread title and the OP. If you still have problems after that with off-topic posts and off-topic spam, I'll be happy to ask the mods to assist you
 
Wrong again, as you are with so many things. Go back and read the thread title and the OP. If you still have problems after that with off-topic posts and off-topic spam, I'll be happy to ask the mods to assist you

It's you ferd that's wrong again :)

That post of mine you quote was moved from the Global warming discussion III thread

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An apology is in order, don't you think?
 
Haig: The fantasies of Suspicious0bservers are not scientific evidence

The Sun - Earth connection triggers earthquakes?
Wrong, Haig - the Suspicious0bservers bunch of cranks fantasying about an M7 Quake in Nepal being connected to the Sun is still not scientific evidence.

The scientific evidence was given to you back on 4 May 2015::
The scientific evidence is that there is no connection between solar activity and earthquakes. Geophysicists have always wondered if there could be one but: Does Solar Activity Cause Earthquakes? falsified this in 2013
But followed by endlessly repeating the delusions of cranks in videos.

This is not a surprise since you seem easily fooled by crank videos as shown in the electric comets thread and now in this thread:
A general comment: EC proponents have the delusion that argument by YouTube video is somehow scientific!
The crank videos that you were fooled by, Haig: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos etc.
 
Piers Corbyn, yet; there's a name I haven't heard for a while. It seems he still has one true believer left in Haig. That's Piers Corbyn the lunar tick, who announced that the world had already entered a long-term cooling-phase in 2007. Haig was all over that at the time.

"... significant weather extremes and earthquakes in the period around 23rd-27th March".

Stand by for some interesting definitions of "significant" come the end of March. Or complete silence on the subject.

I knew Piers was nutty, just not that nutty.
 
He discuses several factors in the video ... watch it again, pay particular attention to the points raised at 0.34 , 1.25, 1.49 and 4.15
Haig - that is the Suspicious0bservers fantasy about an earthquake being triggered by the sun. That "several factors" is thus a lie:
0.34: Looking at the last 24 hours of solar activity to note a "beautiful filament eruption".
1.25: The corneal hole not yet affecting Earth!/B].
1.49: Gibberish about a "primary geocentric geometry" and "geocentric opposition of Saturn and Mars".
4.15: Images of weather patterns - maybe the delusion that solar activity creates weather patterns (the Sun only powers them). And then gibberish about a "high factor time period" producing a quake.
 
Now, I'm not Einstein here chaps; however, can we sum this thread up as; some eejit has said there is a correlation between solar activity and earthquakes?
He has not provided a mechanism for this correlation?
Ergo, all future discussion is pointless, due to said eejit who proposed the idea having no mechanism to explain it. At that point it becomes a circular argument.
At this point it is not only not a "theory", it is not even an hypothesis. It is worse than voodoo.
So until said eejit provides a mechanism, this is a dead thread; it has ceased to be, it's gone to meet its maker.
 
Now, I'm not Einstein here chaps; however, can we sum this thread up as; some eejit has said there is a correlation between solar activity and earthquakes?
He has not provided a mechanism for this correlation?
Ergo, all future discussion is pointless, due to said eejit who proposed the idea having no mechanism to explain it. At that point it becomes a circular argument.
At this point it is not only not a "theory", it is not even an hypothesis. It is worse than voodoo.
So until said eejit provides a mechanism, this is a dead thread; it has ceased to be, it's gone to meet its maker.

That's the way it seems to me.
I haven't seen anything that could be used to predict an earthquake based on solar events. I've only seen post-earthquake identification of something happening on the sun...
 
Haig - that is the Suspicious0bservers fantasy about an earthquake being triggered by the sun. That "several factors" is thus a lie:
0.34: Looking at the last 24 hours of solar activity to note a "beautiful filament eruption".
1.25: The corneal hole not yet affecting Earth!/B].
1.49: Gibberish about a "primary geocentric geometry" and "geocentric opposition of Saturn and Mars".
4.15: Images of weather patterns - maybe the delusion that solar activity creates weather patterns (the Sun only powers them). And then gibberish about a "high factor time period" producing a quake.


Is there a measurable difference in power input from the sun on different part of the globe? (I am referring to in space not on the surface.)
 

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