Could WTC 7 have been pulled?

[Baylor]

why must you lie and misquote me? It only makes you look more childish.

I stated thre tower fires were burning out before collaspe, as photos show.

I am still waiting for anyone to show me a steel building that has collasped from fire in the us in the last 30 years.

wtc 1, 2, 5, & 7.

 

[ULTIMA1]

wtc 1, 2, 5, & 7.

So your saying that WTC 1 and 2 collasped from fire alone and not the plane impacts?

 

[Baylor]

So your saying that WTC 1 and 2 collasped from fire alone and not the plane impacts?

I am saying that fires were sufficient to comprise the structural elements of WTC 1, 2, 5, & 7.

 

[ULTIMA1]

I am saying that fires were sufficient to comprise the structural elements of WTC 1, 2, 5, & 7.

And your evidence of this is what?

Oh and i mean real evidence the kind that would hold in court not what the media told us to believe.

 

[Baylor]

And your evidence of this is what?

Oh and i mean real evidence the kind that would hold in court not what the media told us to believe.

No one told me to believe anything. That's what I saw.

 

[ULTIMA1]

No one told me to believe anything. That's what I saw.

So you have no real evidence to back up your claim?

So those buildings just happened to be the only steel buildings in history to collaspe from fire?

 

[Disenchanted]

And your evidence of this is what?

Oh and i mean real evidence the kind that would hold in court not what the media told us to believe.

What real evidence have you presented? None, in this thread or any you have posted in.

That makes your argument hypocritical, as well as flat out wrong.

 

[Baylor]

So you have no real evidence to back up your claim?

So those buildings just happened to be the only steel buildings in history to collaspe from fire?

No, only the indisputable video evidence.

 

[ULTIMA1]

What real evidence have you presented? None, in this thread or any you have posted in..

Please be adult enough to stop the lies, I have posted real evidence.

Why must believers lie so much and twist peoples post, are you guys really that afraid of the truth?

 

[ULTIMA1]

No, only the indisputable video evidence.

You mean the videos that show dark, heavy black smoke that means a fire is burning at a low temp?

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/fires/severity.html
Dark smoke implies the presence of soot, which is composed of uncombusted hydrocarbons. Soot is produced when a fire is oxygen-starved, or has just been extinguished. Soot also has a high thermal capacity and may act to rob a fire of heat by carrying it away.


You mean the videos that show the fires going out well before the collapse?

Those videos?

 

[Baylor]

You mean the videos that show dark, heavy black smoke that means a fire is burning at a low temp?

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/fires/severity.html
Dark smoke implies the presence of soot, which is composed of uncombusted hydrocarbons. Soot is produced when a fire is oxygen-starved, or has just been extinguished. Soot also has a high thermal capacity and may act to rob a fire of heat by carrying it away.


You mean the videos that show the fires going out well before the collapse?

Those videos?

Wow. I can't believe I just wasted my time with a "oxygen-starved fire" twoofer. I'm reliving 2004 all over again.

 

[Disenchanted]

Please be adult enough to stop the lies, I have posted real evidence.

Why must believers lie so much and twist peoples post, are you guys really that afraid of the truth?

Being an adult is not dodging an argument like you do, with baseless accusations that the poster is lying.

I did not twist any of your words and I did not lie.

If I have prove I have.

If you have credible evidence post it.

You argument has been shown to be filled with lies (along with the irony of saying others are lying), such as this claim of yours:

"Yes since PULLED means bringing down a building, as the fire commander stated."

That is a lie, unless you can show me any demolition companies that use "pulled" or "pull it" to mean demolishing a building.

 

[ULTIMA1]

That is a lie, unless you can show me any demolition companies that use "pulled" or "pull it" to mean demolishing a building.

So when the demoiltion team PULLED building 6 they did not demolish it?

Can you post any evidence to prove what i posted about the fire commander wrong? If you cannot be adult adult enough to admit it is not a lie.

 

[Disenchanted]

So when the demoiltion team PULLED building 6 they did not demolish it?

Can you post any evidence to prove what i posted about the fire commander wrong? If you cannot be adult adult enough to admit it is not a lie.

What evidence do you have building 6 being demolished? Maybe you should start a thread for that since this is about building 7.

The burden is not mine. It is on you to present evidence to support your evidence.

It is your burden to show that "pulled" means to demolish a building and that the fire commander said to demolish building 7.

You have provided no credible evidence for either, why is it my burden to prove it wrong?

Also it is on you to show how I have lied and how I am not acting like an adult, your saying so does not make it true.

 

[ULTIMA1]

What evidence do you have building 6 being demolished? .

I guess you have not seen the video of building 6 being demeolished by being PULLED down. I keep saying you should do research but i guess you are afraiad of the truth.

The burden is not mine.

The burden is on you when you claim i lied. So either post evidence to prove i lied or we will know who is really dishonest here.

 

[Disenchanted]

I guess you have not seen the video of building 6 being demeolished by being PULLED down. I keep saying you should do research but i guess you are afraiad of the truth.



The burden is on you when you claim i lied. So either post evidence to prove i lied or we will know who is really dishonest here.

So are you claiming they "pulled" building 7 down with cables? Otherwise the term "pulled" would not apply to building 7.

No, the burden is on you to support your claim or retract it as the lie that it is.

You made the initial claim, so now it is on you to back it up. So far all you have done is make claims, with out credible evidence to support them. Then when called on not providing credible evidence you dodge the posts by trying to shift the burden, just claiming others are immature, afraid or lying.

 

[ULTIMA1]

So are you claiming they "pulled" building 7 down with cables? Otherwise the term "pulled" would not apply to building 7.
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NO, please do not try to twist my post, it only makes you look childish.

I am stating the fire commander used PULL as a term to bring down the building.

 

[Disenchanted]

NO, please do not try to twist my post, it only makes you look childish.

I am stating the fire commander used PULL as a term to bring down the building.

I twisted nothing. Your continuing to dodge does not reflect good on you.

This is a thread about building 7, how is him using pull for a building pulled down with cables relevant to building 7?

 

[ULTIMA1]

I twisted nothing.

Then show me where i stated building 7 was pulled with cables or it will show you to be liar and twist post.

This is a thread about building 7, how is him using pull for a building pulled down with cables relevant to building 7?

Please read the following sentence many times or have someone read it to you untill you understand it.

I am stating the fire commander used PULL as a term to bring down the building.

Due to the fact that the only reason for the fire commander to call Silverstein was to tell him they could not save the buidling (Silverstein had no authority over what was going on that day.

Also due to the facts as stated by 2 fire chiefs the firemen were out of the building early in the day so he could not have been talking about the firemen when he stated PULL IT.

 

[MarkyX]

So you have no real evidence to back up your claim?

So those buildings just happened to be the only steel buildings in history to collaspe from fire?

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