Could WTC 7 have been pulled?

[Thunder]

There is something Ive thought about for a while. What if, and is it possible, that the FDNY actually did somehow initiate the collapse of WTC 7.

The scenario that has run through my head is that after the disasterous collapses of WTC 1 and 2, the FDNY were in the pit digging for their brothers. Meanwhile, WTC 7 is towering over them, burning to who knows what fate.

Hours go by, WTC 7's fires are not able to be put out due to cut water lines, and FDNY are still working in the rubble. FDNY then makes the decision that if WTC 7 does not collapse on its own, the structure is just so unsafe to be around or work around that it is best if the assumed eventual collape is initiated on their watch, and not when there are rescue personnel around it and in danger of being killed.

So, somehow, the FDNY or someone else is able to knock out a major support column, or something, in order to initiate the collapse.

Once the building is down, there is much less risk to the rescue workers, and the search can continue with little fear.

But, with all the conspiracy theories developing soon after 9-11, they decide to keep it a secret, as they worry it will add to the theories that the rest of the towers were also brought down intentionally. So they make it their little secret.

So..is this possible at all? Could WTC 7 have been brought down, considering all the interior fire and impact damage, by knocking out a column or two?

 

[DC]

There is something Ive thought about for a while. What if, and is it possible, that the FDNY actually did somehow initiate the collapse of WTC 7.

The scenario that has run through my head is that after the disasterous collapses of WTC 1 and 2, the FDNY were in the pit digging for their brothers. Meanwhile, WTC 7 is towering over them, burning to who knows what fate.

Hours go by, WTC 7's fires are not able to be put out due to cut water lines, and FDNY are still working in the rubble. FDNY then makes the decision that if WTC 7 does not collapse on its own, the structure is just so unsafe to be around or work around that it is best if the assumed eventual collape is initiated on their watch, and not when there are rescue personnel around it and in danger of being killed.

So, somehow, the FDNY or someone else is able to knock out a major support column, or something, in order to initiate the collapse.

Once the building is down, there is much less risk to the rescue workers, and the search can continue with little fear.

But, with all the conspiracy theories developing soon after 9-11, they decide to keep it a secret, as they worry it will add to the theories that the rest of the towers were also brought down intentionally. So they make it their little secret.

So..is this possible at all? Could WTC 7 have been brought down, considering all the interior fire and impact damage, by knocking out a column or two?

i think yes. That is way i several times already said, a CD of WTC7 must not mean a sinister dark conspiracy. more like some prefered a controlled collapse above an expected uncontrolled collapse.
im not sure why they would keep it secret, you gave a reason i didnt thought of , CT's. I was more thinking about the insurance, while the insurance actually should be happy becuase with that CD if it was one, other damage was prevented.
I think this is alot more plausible than the shredder motive.

 

[ULTIMA1]

There is something Ive thought about for a while. What if, and is it possible, that the FDNY actually did somehow initiate the collapse of WTC 7.
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Well the fire commander did give the order to PULL the building when talking Silverstein.

 

[JimBenArm]

No. This is the nonsense that P'Dope was pushing at one point. Why keep it secret? No one died from the collapse. If it was decided to take it down, there would have been enough people in the loop that knew about it that it would be impossible to keep secret for long anyway.

It's stupid, and doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.

 

[johnny karate]

Well the fire commander did give the order to PULL the building when talking Silverstein.

What do suppose the motives were of the FDNY to participate in the 9/11 conspiracy by "pulling" WTC7? We're they paid off? Threatened? Or are they just evil?

 

[johnny karate]

i think yes. That is way i several times already said, a CD of WTC7 must not mean a sinister dark conspiracy. more like some prefered a controlled collapse above an expected uncontrolled collapse.
im not sure why they would keep it secret, you gave a reason i didnt thought of , CT's. I was more thinking about the insurance, while the insurance actually should be happy becuase with that CD if it was one, other damage was prevented.
I think this is alot more plausible than the shredder motive.

You're already on record implicating the FDNY in the destruction of WTC7. Why would they participate in an insurance scam that didn't directly benefit them?

 

[rwguinn]

Aaaaannnndd:
"Round and round it goes..."
The search function is your friend. This thread is sooooo 2002/2003/2004/2005/2006/2007/2008 ish...

It's DEAD! Leave it in peace!

 

[beachnut]

Well the fire commander did give the order to PULL the building when talking Silverstein.

They pulled the fire support. Any NSA analyst would know this; you are not an NSA analyst. You have no ability to analyze anything if you mess this very simple grade school level non issue.

Why do you apologize for the terrorist by twisting things?

 

[ULTIMA1]

What do suppose the motives were of the FDNY to participate in the 9/11 conspiracy by "pulling" WTC7? We're they paid off? Threatened? Or are they just evil?

Sorry no conspiracy. The only motive behind bringing down building 7 was to save lives and keep it from causing more damage and spreading fires as Chief Hayden was worried about.

You do know the fire commander has the authority to bring down buildings in emergencies right?

 

[ULTIMA1]

They pulled the fire support.

How would they pull the fire support if it was already out of the building earlier in the day as stated by Chief Nigro and Chief Hayden?

Why do you apologize for the terrorist by twisting things?

Why do you disrespect the familes of those who died by spreading lies?

 

[beachnut]

How would they pull the fire support if it was already out of the building earlier in the day as stated by Chief Nigro and Chief Hayden?



Why do you disrespect the familes of those who died by spreading lies?

You must be the only NSA analyst that is a terrorist apologist. If you can't get pull it right you can't get anything 9/11 right.

No you are the one spitting on the graves, you are the fantasy man.


You are twisting the story to make false information, lies and fantasy. You do this all the time.

 

[rwguinn]

We have a rescue effort in building 7. It is headed by joe firman
The rescue effort is in danger of being trapped.
Stop it. Pull it out.
simple. "It" defines the damn SAR effort. To deny that is stupid. Wewlcome to ignore.

 

[Thunder]

No. This is the nonsense that P'Dope was pushing at one point. Why keep it secret? No one died from the collapse. If it was decided to take it down, there would have been enough people in the loop that knew about it that it would be impossible to keep secret for long anyway.

It's stupid, and doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.

hmm..you are probably right. if they did indeed decide to pull the building..soo many people would know about it that it would be impossible to keep it or the methods a secret.

wtc 7 was most likely not pulled by anything but gravity.

 

[Thunder]

What do suppose the motives were of the FDNY to participate in the 9/11 conspiracy by "pulling" WTC7? We're they paid off? Threatened? Or are they just evil?

well, i was suggesting that the motive would be to allow the rescue effort to go on without the danger of hundreds more FDNY being killed by the expected/predicted collapse of wtc 7.

but as i said, if this is what happened, too many people would have been told to shut up for this to be kept secret. secrets, in the USA, are notorious for being leaked, espcially in NYC.

 

[ULTIMA1]

If you can't get pull it right you can't get anything 9/11 right.

So please show evindence then that the firemen were left in the buidling by thier chiefs (in an unsafe building) while they want to make the call to Silverstein.

Either show me evidence that the firemen were in the building at the time of the call or be adult enough to admit you are wrong.

 

[ULTIMA1]

We have a rescue effort in building 7. It is headed by joe firman
The rescue effort is in danger of being trapped.
Stop it. Pull it out.
simple. "It" defines the damn SAR effort. To deny that is stupid. Wewlcome to ignore.

Its just too bad that 2 fire chiefs have stated the firemen wer out early in the day, so the how do you pull out firemen who are already out of the buildilng?

 

[SatansMaleVoiceChoir]

Sorry no conspiracy. The only motive behind bringing down building 7 was to save lives and keep it from causing more damage and spreading fires as Chief Hayden was worried about.

You do know the fire commander has the authority to bring down buildings in emergencies right?

So if their motives were pure, and they had all the necessary permissions, why are they still keeping it a secret, 7 years later?

They could have saved a lot of time and trouble for investigators if they had just admitted it.

Or are they just doing it to mess with people's heads?

I'm sorry Parky, but this is one of the silliest threads I have ever read, and it's spawning some of the silliest posts too.

 

[ULTIMA1]

So if their motives were pure, and they had all the necessary permissions, why are they still keeping it a secret, 7 years later?
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Why don't you ask the people that were there, like i do?

 

[Thunder]

So if their motives were pure, and they had all the necessary permissions, why are they still keeping it a secret, 7 years later?

They could have saved a lot of time and trouble for investigators if they had just admitted it.

Or are they just doing it to mess with people's heads?

I'm sorry Parky, but this is one of the silliest threads I have ever read, and it's spawning some of the silliest posts too.

Its not my fault if there are irrational people on this forum who dig around for threads they can exploit for their CT ideas.

If WTC 7 was "pulled" somehow by the FDNY, inorder to protect rescue workers from further harm, that does not make it an "inside job". But so far the only evidence we have that the building was pulled is a misinterpreted Silverstein quote, and 3 attention whore auxiliary emergency personnel.

 

[SatansMaleVoiceChoir]

Why don't you ask the people that were there, like i do?

So, let me get this straight: you have personally spoken to people on the scene who witnessed the FDNY demolish the building, and none of these people have come forward?

You do realise if one person came forward with solid proof that the FDNY brought the building down/initiated its' collapse and then covered it up, the story would be worth potentially millions?

You also realise you are suggesting that the FDNY brought a building down for all the right reasons - an action which, on that day, NOBODY would have questioned - and then decided to cover it up?!