Could WTC 7 have been pulled?

[Homeland Insurgency]

The reasons for covering it up in the scenario presented in the op are too multiple to fathom or list.

Maybe insurance?

Maybe authority to do as much wasn't authorized.

Maybe liability?

Maybe something none of us is even thinking of or know enough about?

One thing is for sure none of us know enough to claim we know what happen and why.

Just admit it.

 

[fromdownunder]

I imagine that this has been answered many times on many threads, but I am in Sunday lazy mode, so I will ask here, as the subject does not appear to have been razed )) on this thread.

How long would it actually take to safely set up a proper demolition job on a high rise that would not potentially cause collatoral damage, and how many people would it take?

The fastest I ever saw was on Volcano, but AFAIK, Tommy Lee Jones was not at ground zero on 9/11.

Norm

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

I imagine that this has been answered many times on many threads, but I am in Sunday lazy mode, so I will ask here, as the subject does not appear to have been razed )) on this thread.

How long would it actually take to safely set up a proper demolition job on a high rise that would not potentially cause collatoral damage, and how many people would it take?

The fastest I ever saw was on Volcano, but AFAIK, Tommy Lee Jones was not at ground zero on 9/11.

Norm

I guess about as long as it takes for a building to burn down according to the official version.

 

[Hamradioguy]

Yes since PULLED means bringing down a building, as the fire commander stated.

Oh here we go again. I have been working with explosives for many years. In fact my Vermont Explosives license was #008- one of the first ones issued. "Pulling" a building does NOT mean demolishing it via explosives. And you claim it wasn't done with cables (Demolition firms sometimes pull smaller structures over with cables). So- no explosives and no cables for WTC 7. I thought this matter was settled some time ago.

Any fence sitters out there who doubt my words need only call any demolition firm and ask if "pull" is a term used in explosive demolition.)

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

Oh here we go again. I have been working with explosives for many years. In fact my Vermont Explosives license was #008- one of the first ones issued. "Pulling" a building does NOT mean demolishing it via explosives. And you claim it wasn't done with cables (Demolition firms sometimes pull smaller structures over with cables). So- no explosives and no cables for WTC 7. I thought this matter was settled some time ago.

Any fence sitters out there who doubt my words need only call any demolition firm and ask if "pull" is a term used in explosive demolition.)

Well if they pulled it with a wire would that be less of a conspiracy? Were any other surrounding buildings pulled with a wire in the clean-up?

 

[I Ratant]

There was a docu on HIstory a week or so ago, using videos from people who were there.
"I-Witness"
I hadn't seen these previously.
One of them was taken inside WTC7, when it was being cleared of people, as it was pretty well damaged and on fire.
The videographer was one of the last people to leave the site.
The hysterics about its collapse later just make no sense, as do the insane hysteria about everything on 9-11.

 

[cyclonic]

Intresting comment by Igradyl on this video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=csn6Em87eEE

"Pull It" to many firefighters, especially to those oldtimers like me that served long before portable radios became popular and affordable means to cease all interior operations.

-firefighterforums

"The reason they used the expressions before radios was because when firefighters need to evacuate a building and had no radios, the firefighters would pull on the hose. That signaled the firefighters inside to evacuate immediately. They just happen to still use the same terminology. When an order to 'pull it' was given then, it meant pull the hose, now, it means radio in and get them out".

 

[Gavron]

Has a fire dept or demolition team ever brought down a 40+ story building before, while it was still burning? Seems like this is the 1st time in history it had been done, and hasnt been done since then either.

If bringing down the building was necessary for safety reasons, why cover it up? Looks like it would be hailed as heroic, since they were entering a burning building they could not save....planting charges or at least weakening the structure to where it would collapse.

Oh, and all without any witnesses to this.

Then told not to tell anyone?

 

[johnny karate]

Has a fire dept or demolition team ever brought down a 40+ story building before, while it was still burning? Seems like this is the 1st time in history it had been done, and hasnt been done since then either.

If bringing down the building was necessary for safety reasons, why cover it up? Looks like it would be hailed as heroic, since they were entering a burning building they could not save....planting charges or at least weakening the structure to where it would collapse.

Oh, and all without any witnesses to this.

Then told not to tell anyone?

It's almost impossible to believe there are people stupid enough to believe nonsenses like that, isn't it?

 

[pomeroo]

Well the fire commander did give the order to PULL the building when talking Silverstein.

Uh, no, you are completely wrong. It is impossible to "pull" a 47-story building. As you are the only remaining conspiracy liar who doesn't understand that "pull it" does not mean "blow up the building," and you are incapable of using the search function to find the many threads devoted to this subject, let me inform you that demolition professionals "pull" relatively small structures by attaching cables to them and literally pulling them off their center of gravity.

As has pointed out a few thousand times, asking a
firechief to blow up a building is comparable to asking the mail carrier to fix the kitchen sink.

You have no idea how dead this canard is.

 

[pomeroo]

hmm..you are probably right. if they did indeed decide to pull the building..soo many people would know about it that it would be impossible to keep it or the methods a secret.

wtc 7 was most likely not pulled by anything but gravity.

Please stop misusing the word "pull." We have established over and over that the phrase "pull it" is not demolition industry slang. Buildings as large as WTC 7 cannot be "pulled," i.e., toppled by attaching cables and literally pulling them off their center of gravity.

 

[Gavron]

It's almost impossible to believe there are people stupid enough to believe nonsenses like that, isn't it?

There are those that seem to think it happens all the time.....yet cannot site even one example of it ever being done before or since 9/11.

Interesting how people will believe what they want to believe sometimes

 

[pomeroo]

I have e-mailed companies that were at ground zero to find the truth.

Why don't you e-mail FDNY to find the truth.

You keep neglecting to mention that you are a conspiracy liar: you hate the truth. I, and many other rationalists, have spoken with firefighters. You have not contacted anybody, nor do you intend to.

 

[pomeroo]

Are you saying Silverstien is a liar and his statment cannot be trusted?

I mean he basilcally stated. The fire commander decided to PULL IT and we watched the building collapse.

Again, you are perhaps the only remaining conspiracy liar who doesn't understand that Silverstein's conversation with the fire chief had nothing to do with demolition. "Pull it" is firefighter jargon. Silverstein was talking with a firefighter. Firefighters don't blow up buildings. "Pull it" does not mean "blow up the building."

 

[fromdownunder]

I guess about as long as it takes for a building to burn down according to the official version.

So does this mean that all the material I have looked at (only on Television) about Las Vegas buildings taking weeks to be set up for proper demolition is incorrect, and it could/should all be done, far more cheaply, within hours on the same day? I guess if your answer is correct, the USA economy is built on inefficiancy.

What a great way to waste money. Spend a long time doing something which could be easily done in a few hours.

Norm

 

[pomeroo]

Well its just to bad i have the statments from 2 fire chiefs that the firemen were out of the buidling early in the day. You really should do some real researach.

You have failed again to post evidence from a source to debate the evidence i have posted.

WHY IS THAT?

You keep using the word "evidence" to describe your childish lies. WHY IS THAT?

Try to focus: "Pull it" is dead. Finished. Shuffled off this mortal coil. Kaput. Never to be resurrected.

 

[pomeroo]

Yes since PULLED means bringing down a building, as the fire commander stated.

You've been caught in a very, very foolish lie. And, comically enough, you are the only liar here who doesn't realize how ridiculous you look. The others have been beaten to bloody pulps on this canard many times.

 

[Gavron]

Whats interesting is Roger will also state that no other building has ever collapsed from fire before....so why not let it burn out then? He says the fires were burning out, but then says the fires were in danger of jumping to other buildings?

Either there are fires ,or there arent fires....which is it?

 

[ULTIMA1]

So- no explosives and no cables for WTC 7. I thought this matter was settled some time ago..)

So maybe you can explain to me then if 2 fire chiefs stated the firemen were out of the building earlier in the day (before the phone call) how can you PULL firemen that are already out of the buidling as Silverstein stated the fire commander decided to PULL IT.

He could not have been talking about pulling the firemen if they were already out of the building.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Whats interesting is Roger will also state that no other building has ever collapsed from fire before....so why not let it burn out then? ?

Why must you lie and misquote me? It only makes you look more childish.

I stated thre tower fires were burning out before collaspe, as photos show.

I am still waiting for anyone to show me a steel building that has collasped from fire in the US in the last 30 years.