8 out of 8 at Citgo station

[beachnut]

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Metal confetti.
Note the unique conformance with the American Airlines logo, seen on 757s such as AA flight 77 that smashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.

Aircraft parts at the end of a multi-site RADAR path, are not evidence for idiots selling DVD filled with lies. That AA aircraft part is part of the moronic CT CIT has, it was planted when the EvilBushEmpire beamed it there from the Star-Ship NWO.

CE is a special class of truther, the got no evidence CIT repeater super poster. CIT and CE live in a fantasy world, the only purpose CE serves is for typing practice. He did get very upset when Paik's testimony debunked CIT's failed flight path.

CE is comic relief if you catch his posts. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6731512&postcount=22

CE can't comprehend there were tons of flight 77 recovered, or the fact the NTSB does not put planes back together that crashed due to terrorists flying it into the ground as the FDR shows, with every input from Hani on the flight controls, which match exactly what Middleton saw. It is uncanny how the CIT witnesses are verified by the FDR and RADAR. If CE could apply the same effort like Atchimspok, and correctly, he would not be supporting the work/claims/conclusions of morons.

 

[I Ratant]

Go hunt the boeing. This shrapnel is what i would guesstimate at about 10% of the full body of evidence for a 757 hitting the Pentagon.

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Find the F-4 on the exit side of the concrete block.
It's spread out over 200 yards or so.
Might I ask, are you as ...... bad word... as you are possibly pretending to be with your silliness?
Outside parts from the 757 identified, inside parts from the 757 identified.. there's nothing else to expect.
Oh, take the passenger list for AA 77, and go find the survivors of those people, and tell them of the hoax.
Have the ambulance nearby, you're going to need it.

 

[Childlike Empress]

beachnut, yes, we understood it already. You hoped that i would stop posting here and expose your lies when you've read the linked post of mine, but yet i was talking about the subforum, not the JREF forum as a whole. I never planned to stop coming and observing here.

Sorry. So sorry, liar.

 

[Childlike Empress]

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Find the F-4 on the exit side of the concrete block.
It's spread out over 200 yards or so.
Might I ask, are you as ...... bad word... as you are possibly pretending to be with your silliness?
Outside parts from the 757 identified, inside parts from the 757 identified.. there's nothing else to expect.
Oh, take the passenger list for AA 77, and go find the survivors of those people, and tell them of the hoax.
Have the ambulance nearby, you're going to need it.

What's an F-4? Show it to me on the C-Ring where the "exit hole" is.

 

[beachnut]

beachnut, yes, we understood it already. You hoped that i would stop posting here and expose your lies when you've read the linked post of mine, but yet i was talking about the subforum, not the JREF forum as a whole. I never planned to stop coming and observing here.

Sorry. So sorry, liar.

No, I like the typing practice while I trim the apple, peach, pear, and plum trees for spring.

You spread lies, that makes you a CIT believer. Either that or Balsamo, Ranke, or Aldo(whatever) is living in your basement and is posting for you; oops, that means it is not you. No wonder you forgot your bye-bye speech. Or you are old and forgot you said bye.

Paik points south and you repeat lies. Was it a lie when you said bye? Keep up the good work, it would not be 911 if there were not people to ensure failure continues forever, and ever.

Observing? http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6731512&postcount=22
Lost in translation...

CIT lies, you repeat; not so neat, but it is what you do best. My god, if you understood RADAR who would be running the fan club for CIT? Other 911 truthers know CIT are morons, while they run around spewing delusions on things they can't comprehend. Good luck, don't say bye you can't help yourself, you need to debunk your self by ignoring evidence and posting proof in this sub-forum.

You have to support liars, with witnesses who point the the south flight path.

It is your destiny. Paik puts 77 near that tower behind him; CIT witness debunks CIT morons, not news. Like south, you have no clue what bye means. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6731512&postcount=22

 

[achimspok]

... this goes especially to the anti-CIT truthers who joined after 2005 and think WTC7 is the smoking gun and CIT are a distraction at best - is this classic presentation (<10 min).

This one goes especially to the childlike truthers who joined 1999 and missed Newton's 2nd law and the meaning of kinetic energy (it's on YouTube):

Inertia is the resistance of any physical object to a change in its state of motion or rest. ... (more on Wikipedia)

The kinetic energy of an object is the energy which it possesses due to its motion. It is defined as the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its stated velocity.

Boeing 757 = 110000 kg
Boeing 757 = 246 m/s

How much work would you need to accelerate that boeing in the opposite direction to find the debris on the lawn?
How big is the cross section area of the renovated wall that has to do that work?
How much elastic capability of the fuselage, wings etc is needed to bounce back (if the wall could resist that kinetic energy)?

Btw, your "classic" presentation was on YT for years.
...and CIT is a distraction at best. It's a well done job. How do you know it? It's resistant against logic, physics, witness reports, ...
It refuses to back check any contradiction (even among their own witnesses).
It refuses to accept any witness report that do not fit their hypothesis.
It prefers to develop ridiculous fly over theories without ANY evidence (no witness, no physics, no radar, no damage, no "missing" airplane, no blood and flesh ... no nothing) instead of searching for anything that might make sense.

What does it tell you? Either these guys left school at the age of 10 or they are staged to be as ridiculous as possible in the name of "truthers".
Divide and Conquer.

 

[Childlike Empress]

It's sad how ineffective you people have been.

More exactly - it's so sad that it's good enough to work. Yet.

 

[I Ratant]

What's an F-4? Show it to me on the C-Ring where the "exit hole" is.

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F-4.
Much stronger airplane than AA 77, the plane that flew into the Pentagon.
The Boeing 757, American Airlines flight 77, the plane that flew into the Pentagon, disintegrated as it passed through the various walls etc on its path through the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.
There's a lot of evidence of this.
Makes interesting reading.
It's been pointed out here 1000s of times in the following 9 years.
Sad, to see some folks still puzzled by reality.

 

[achimspok]

More exactly - it's so sad that it's good enough to work. Yet.

Down on your knees, you'll be left behind
This is the beginning
Watch what you think, they can read your mind
This is the beginning

I got my mark, see it in my eyes
This is the beginning
My reflection I don't recognize
This is the beginning

We think we climb so high
Upon the backs we've condemned
We face our consequence
This is the beginning of the end

You wait your turn, you'll be last in line
This is the beginning
Get out the way 'cause I'm getting mine
This is the beginning

God helps the ones that can help themselves
This is the beginning
May be too late as far as I can tell
This is the beginning

We think we've come so far
On all our lies we depend
Facing our consequence
This is the beginning of the end

 

[Childlike Empress]

...and CIT is a distraction at best. It's a well done job. How do you know it? It's resistant against logic, physics, witness reports, ...

You have presented nothing but incoherent crap and artificial noise, Achim. Your actions and pretent sciency BS you presented speak louder than words. Your buddy YougeneDebs is an airhead if we are generous, and my debunk still stands firm against the collective debunkery. I hope someone capable of taking legal action takes notes. I am able to present you folks on a silverplate, but that's about it.

Thanks, I Ratant, so that plane you describe has nothing to do with the real world event.

 

[achimspok]

... nothing but incoherent crap and artificial noises ...

...backed by most of the witnesses even when talking to them directly
...backed by the FDR
...backed by the damage path
...backed by physics
...backed by photographs
...backed by the reports of Air Traffic Controllers
...backed by different radar systems (RADES, International Airport)
...backed by DNA (so far as I can tell)
...backed by logic (because all these sources tell the same story)

This indeed speaks louder than words. Start doing your homework! All you presented to back your claim was a wrong red line and (surprise surprise) you refuse to accept your failure. Instead (CIT like) you accusing Yougene Debs being wrong about left and right.
Btw, Yougene is one of the best on the internet in analyzing any freakin' position in midair from some photographs or videos. The beautiful part of it: you can back check his work. You simply need to put a camera in that position and Voilà! If he tells you that right doesn't mean north then I bet my a** that you need a little more than a wrong red line to debunk anything.

 

[achimspok]

I forgot one thing. The flights in the FDR are even backed by the BTS database (against older claims).

Here are all the flights recorded by the FDR:

The same flights in the BTS database:

How precise is the FDR? It's precise enough to track the movement on a runway and to find out at which gate it arrived and departed.

 

[BCR]

I forgot one thing. The flights in the FDR are even backed by the BTS database (against older claims).

Now you know CE has absolutely no idea what those fancy graphs (nice work by the way) mean.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

That "exit hole" is too funny. The relevant pictures of your little collection, Smith, are part of the "NTSB animation" i've already posted. I've got nothing to hide. You, on the other hand, should be very careful about calling people liars when they are mistaken on a side issue. My last doubts about you vanished in this thread after your yellow comeback to my instructions about how to understand the CITGO witnesses.

Whats "funny" about the exit hole? What do you think it should have looked like and why? What professional experience or academic qualifications do you have that make you think your opinion of what the hole should look like would be of any interest to us or, say, a jury?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Middleton, anybody?

I've already answered that question. Are you now saying you believe Middleton so we can take Morin off your list of NoC witnesses. They can't both be right as there evidence is mutually exclusive.

so which is it Middleton or Morin?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Btw, Yougene is one of the best on the internet in analyzing any freakin' position in midair from some photographs or videos. The beautiful part of it: you can back check his work. You simply need to put a camera in that position and Voilà! If he tells you that right doesn't mean north then I bet my a** that you need a little more than a wrong red line to debunk anything.

Sure buddy, that's the best voice you have in your little cult. I tend to agree.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Now you know CE has absolutely no idea what those fancy graphs (nice work by the way) mean.

BS. I know they mean nothing and are just an incompetent reaction to the light i shine on your disgusting little cult.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

What's an F-4? Show it to me on the C-Ring where the "exit hole" is.

An F-4 is a Phantom twin engine heavy fighter bomber of the Vietnam war era.

One was put on a rocket sled and launched into a concrete wall at 500 mph in Japan to test Nuclear reactor containment walls. Thats the video I posted for you. The plane was reduced to confetti as were the wings and tail of AA77 on 911. The fuselage (thats the main body of the plane ) punched a hole through the outside wall (which funnily enough is just the right size)and entered the building. It kep punching through each ring in sequence until all its KE was expended. Simple physics (you didn't do physics at school did you?).

 

[Childlike Empress]

Linky?

 

[achimspok]

I've already answered that question. Are you now saying you believe Middleton so we can take Morin off your list of NoC witnesses. They can't both be right as there evidence is mutually exclusive.

so which is it Middleton or Morin?

Both were right about their description of what they saw and the positon of the plane relative to their vantage point. Both were wrong about the real distance between their position and the airplane.

Here you see where Middleton would have seen the "official" flight path. Morin saw the same from between the wings of the Navy Annex.