8 out of 8 at Citgo station

[Childlike Empress]

Yes. And it occured to me that it might have been smashed to crap when impacting a heavily reinforced concrete wall. Funnily enough:

Not funny at all. Most of the litters (biers?) stayed unused, as some of the videos show. Only used for April Gallop and other victims inside the Pentagon.

 

[A W Smith]

And yet there is no crashed jumbo jet to be seen anywhere at the Pentagon. Strange, isn't it? Ever thought about that?

April Gallop's case was dismissed because of an embarrasing argument from incredulity from the judge. That guy would excellently fit in Saudi Arabia.

Another one of your lies CE
Do you lie just for the perverse trolling sport of it?
Why do you cling to the lies of CIT? Are you a groupie? Does Craigs lego hair and garage band music fascinate you?
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

Some flight 77 wreckage accounts and parts identification
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An American Airlines mechanic identifies the part with serial number on the Pentagon lawn: (photo source: "Pentagon 9/11" http://911files.info/77/pentagon_911_book/)

"The part in question is the power supply for the emergency lights. ...I assure you it was Flight 77, AA 757 5BP."

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The following accounts are from "Responding in the Pentagon" (PDF, 139 pages)

You could see where the plane had gone in. It sheared off some of the light poles and those were on the ground. There were some plane parts around. We got right up to the building. The frustrating thing is you couldn’t get in because of the smoke. –Colonel John F. Roser, commander of the Rader Army Health Clinic at Ft. Myer, VA.

We could not see the plane. The only thing that we saw was a piece of the front skin with the “C” from American Airlines by the little heliport control tower. (see photo above) –Lieutenant Colonel Frank Bryceland

I rushed through Henderson Hall (a close-by Marine barracks) to the Pentagon. Along the way, debris of an airplane wing was on the grass. –Dr. Duong Nguyen, COL, MC (retired), physician

We noticed pieces of the aircraft that had landed inside the courtyard, and the FBI personnel were marking the location where each piece landed. –Colonel Jonathan Fruendt, Surgeon

But we did go right up by the helipad almost. You could see pieces of the airplane sitting there, and it looked like some cushions or some pieces. –Lieutenant Colonel Bernadette Close

At that point we were able to see the last part of the plane, where it stopped, basically. It was a big 8 by 10 or bigger, I’m just guessing, hole in the wall. You could see the tire, the landing gear, were just forward of it. There was a fire that was burning right up against the wall. –Sergeant First Class Reginald Powell, radiologist

I remember looking down the corridor, and you could see where part of the plane had busted through the wall, and the firefighters wouldn’t let us in. They were scared the entire wall was going to collapse. You could still see a tire and some unrecognizable little small portion of the plane. –Specialist Kristopher Leigh Sorensen, Medical Laboratory Technician​

Below: exit hole into A-E drive, mentioned in the last two accounts above. Apparent aircraft debris has rivet holes and green zinc corrosion-resistant coating. Conspiracists, please keep in mind, while you are scrutinizing this photo for aircraft debris, that the highest concentration, and greatest variety, of human remains at the Pentagon was found in this area.

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Below: Main landing gear section, apparent engine parts, and other aircraft and building debris. Thanks to Italian 9/11 researcher Henry 62 for making this available.

Below: 757 main gear assembly. Compare to Pentagon debris above.

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Firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached." –Source​

“We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area.”–Source​

“Shaeffer stood on a service road that circled the Pentagon between the B and C rings. A chunk of the 757's nose cone and front landing gear lay on the pavement a few feet away, resting against the B Ring wall.”–Source

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Please link to photos of all the large jets that have crashed into very large , sprawling strutues like the Pentagon. After all you should be comparing similar fruits.

Concord, nope! It was not moving fast and hit the ground well before it hit the structure.

747 cargo, into the German apartment building, nope! the structure was lightly built and not nearly the width of the Pentagon.

Frankly I cannot think of anything similar before 9/11 or since.

and even both of those left very of the plane. Centre section of Pan Am 103 at lockerbie and the Value jet in Florida plus of course Shankville shows what is left when high speed aircraft meets solid object.
And of course we have the Phantom into the concrete block test in Japan.
Its probably the best to get an idea of what happened to the wings and tail of AA77
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVz5vhNvskk

 

[Childlike Empress]

Another one of your lies CE
Do you lie just for the perverse trolling sport of it?
Why do you cling to the lies of CIT? Are you a groupie? Does Craigs lego hair and garage band music fascinate you?
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

That "exit hole" is too funny. The relevant pictures of your little collection, Smith, are part of the "NTSB animation" i've already posted. I've got nothing to hide. You, on the other hand, should be very careful about calling people liars when they are mistaken on a side issue. My last doubts about you vanished in this thread after your yellow comeback to my instructions about how to understand the CITGO witnesses.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Middleton, anybody?

 

[I Ratant]

Maybe it's helpful to post the full body of evidence for a crashed 757 (although it's not the topic of this thread). Fits in under 7 min and mostly contains a couple of photographs of dubious origin. It's the famous "NTSB animation". That's at least what i've heard them they call it, but it's somehow semi-official. As close as you can come to an "official story" at the Pentagon.

Study the opening slides carefully. "Counter intuitive outcome" indeed. The people who made it cared about plausible deniability.



edit: Also pay attention to where the plane goes in that animation. It simply disappears.

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Seek help.
Airplanes become metal confetti when impacting sturdy objects at high speeds.
Watch this F-4 vanish before anything gets thru the wall at all.
Reference post 1482 for metal confetti, with American Airlines logos visible on some parts.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3939904420012109745#
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[A W Smith]

That "exit hole" is too funny. The relevant pictures of your little collection, Smith, are part of the "NTSB animation" i've already posted. I've got nothing to hide. You, on the other hand, should be very careful about calling people liars when they are mistaken on a side issue. My last doubts about you vanished in this thread after your yellow comeback to my instructions about how to understand the CITGO witnesses.

So you admit you are mistaken and that in fact there is debris from flight 77 at the Pentagon.

 

[beachnut]

Come on, Reheat, Apathoid, Clinger, BCR, Mackey and the liar beachnut, whoever, if you have something to say: Put up or shut up.

...
... Don't expect to see me much around, but i'll keep you informed if something important happens. Again, happy new year duhbunkies, and bye.

The famous playground not-so-bully-pulpit speech, a lessor failed claim, made by someone who has no clue, no evidence, and nothing important to report. Too bad you are not as cool on 911 issues as your avatar appears to be. Bye? Was that bye, or maybe bye? Does that mean you will not be posting regurgitated moronic delusions from CIT? No? Maybe? Is this important? Your failure to understand RADAR? Is that important? Is it time to stundie your short retirement post?

Do you understand bye? Did you let Balsamo stay in your basement? Ranke? Aldodogfood? Did you leave your jref password next to your monitor?

Paik points south, and CIT are morons. What else do you have?

... tons of aircraft parts found at the Pentagon you ignore. Good job being a cult member of CIT, the crack investigators for Balsamo's pilots, the no clue club on 911 delusions.

 

[Childlike Empress]

So you admit you are mistaken and that in fact there is debris from flight 77 at the Pentagon.

I admit I was mistaken when I called a 757 a "jumbo jet". Nothing more, nothing less.

Maybe we should first review the CITGO witnesses before we come to Middleton. For those who still don't have "north" and "south" straight.

Smith, go as close as you can to the former CITGO station. Then watch the testimony of the three witnesses and understand why it is so absurd to think they could be mistaken about "north" and "south".

Starts at 21:30 min in:

edit: google maps link provided by smith. Please go there to understand what they are talking about.

 

[Childlike Empress]

mental confetti

ftfy

 

[Childlike Empress]

Do you understand bye? Did you let Balsamo stay in your basement? Ranke? Aldodogfood? Did you leave your jref password next to your monitor?

I know that my presence annoys you, beachnut, and i'm proud of it. Something important has happened indeed, so i'm here. Awaiting your critique of my YougeneDebs debunk or an explanation of your continous lies.

 

[A W Smith]

Middleton, anybody?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6789581&postcount=1368

 

[beachnut]

Middleton, anybody?

Yes, he points south. He describes the official flight path as if he had the RADAR and FDR files in his head! Wow!@¹⁰⁰⁰

Middleton pointing to the official flight path (SOUTH), a flight path over his head. His head is 5 to 6 feet AGL, 77 was higher than 6 feet AGL; thus over his head. Talk about CIT being stupid, how do they avoid the RADAR issue? Oh, they have to call the military liars who faked the data. That is what CIT morons do, make up lies.
You can't win. RADAR, a thing you can't comprehend debunks your delusional persistence to push CIT lies.

 

[Childlike Empress]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6789581&postcount=1368

Can you explain it to me, Smith? Didn't get it.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Yes, he points south.
[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/citw22311pointssouth.jpg[/qimg]
Middleton pointing to the official flight path (SOUTH), a flight path over his head. His head is 5 to 6 feet AGL, 77 was higher than 6 feet AGL; thus over his head. Talk about CIT being stupid, how do they avoid the RADAR issue? Oh, they have to call the military liars who faked the data. That is what CIT morons do, make up lies.
You can't win. RADAR, a thing you can't comprehend debunks your delusional persistence to push CIT lies.

Mr. Middleton's hand is approx. south of his body. Well done, beachnut. But what if people watch the video? Will they get it? Your posting habit gives away that your answer is "no". I say "maybe".

 

[A W Smith]

Can you explain it to me, Smith? Didn't get it.

The path has enough altitude that Middleton could have seen it beyond the annex and interpreted it as closer to him than it actually was. Do you not understand the 3-d plot and rendering by Atchimspok?

 

[beachnut]

Mr. Middleton's hand is approx. south of his body. Well done, beachnut. But what if people watch the video? Will they get it? Your posting habit gives away that your answer is "no". I say "maybe".

You said bye. Do you have any clue what bye means? You have no clue what RADAR, DNA, and FDR are. How about your good-bye speech?

Middleton describes the official flight path. If you have any training at all, you could comprehend CIT's witnesses do no support CIT claims. Please post the CIT physically impossible flight paths again to debunk yourself again.


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6731512&postcount=22

bye

 

[I Ratant]

ftfy

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Metal confetti.
Note the unique conformance with the American Airlines logo, seen on 757s such as AA flight 77 that smashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.

 

[Childlike Empress]

The path has enough altitude that Middleton could have seen it beyond the annex and interpreted it as closer to him than it actually was. Do you not understand the 3-d plot and rendering by Atchimspok?

Middleton wasn't in that video at all and is not part of the perspective abused by the creep.

 

[Childlike Empress]

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Metal confetti.
Note the unique conformance with the American Airlines logo, seen on 757s such as AA flight 77 that smashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.

Go hunt the boeing. This shrapnel is what i would guesstimate at about 10% of the full body of evidence for a 757 hitting the Pentagon.