8 out of 8 at Citgo station

Also not on youtube - and this goes especially to the anti-CIT truthers who joined after 2005 and think WTC7 is the smoking gun and CIT are a distraction at best - is this classic presentation (<10 min).
 
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CE For somebody who touts eye witness accounts uber alles, trying to shove a flyover down our throats with NO corroborating evidence and glaringly NO eye witnesses seems just a little bit....uh...kooky, huh?
 
You did avoid my straight-forward question. What are they waiting for?

You're ignorant delusions are mere flatulence in a hurricane. It's not worth the effort and you're not going to convince anyone, not even most other ignorant toofers. That's how stupid it is!
 
More ridiculous handwaving. What about a "thank you CE for making me learn something. Next time i won't be so gullible thanks to your debunk of YougeneDebs" from you, Arus808? Is that too much to ask for?
 


Where is it? What's smoking there? A jumbo jet large commercial airliner?

Getting closer. A 757 is not a large airliner. Its one of the smaller ones
Have you ever flown in one? Ever flown at all?

Someone on youtube is busy deleting the released footage. I've seen much more obvious videos last weekend, they are gone. I think the search terms are "9 11 FBI FOIA Pentagon".


Oh no the Illuminati are closing in:eek:

Deal with it. That's part of what a theory has to explain. "Flyover" has yet to be beaten.

Deal with what? What do think it should have looked like. Feel free to link to air crashes that look like you think AA77 should looked like.
This should be interesting ;)
 
Getting closer. A 757 is not a large airliner. Its one of the smaller ones
Have you ever flown in one? Ever flown at all?


Never flown myself, no, and didn't fly often at all. I immediately corrected myself. It doesn't matter if a 757 is a jumbo jet like i falsely stated, or not. Not a small plane. Not what is smoking there.
 
Oh wait, do you mean the judge who oversaw Gallop's case where she sued AA for allowing one its jumbo jets to be crashed into the Pentagon, and she took AA's money in settlement?

BWHAHAHA!!!!

CE, you just keep pitching in those soft balls and we'll keep crushing them out of the god damn park!

Nah, I think CE is referring to AG trying to then sue the adminstration for its causing death and destruction by means other than crashing the large jet, for which she collected money for having crashed into the Pentagon.
If the Judge was incredulous at her attempt to claim that the jet did, and did not, crash into the Pentagon then it simply indicates that the judicial system works, at least some of the time.

"Flyover" has yet to be beaten.

The 'Flyover' beats itself by the very measure by which the CiT uses, eyewitness testimony, since their are NO witnesses at all from any location, of the supposed flyover. The flyover contention sprang wholly from the minds of the CiT. It has no physical, documentary, or eyewitness evidence to bolster it. Thus it is also 'beaten' by the measure that we tend to consider better than simple eyewitness statements.


As for physical evidence and documentary evidence and eyewitness evidence in a court of law;
You could have 10 witnesses saying that a specific person robbed a store but if the store video (documentary evidence) shows beyond a doubt that it was not that person then that trumps the witnesses.
If the video shows the thief placing his hand on something that forensics cannot find any DNA or fingerprint evidence (physical evidence) that indicates this person was there, then that trumps the witnesses.

In FACT there are many cases of murder and rape that have been OVERTURNED when DNA (physical evidence) proves that the witnesses who's testimony put this person behind bars (or worse, put to death) did not commit the crime.

Your contention that witness testimony is paramount is either a delusion or indicates you are grasping at straws as the CiT contentions go down.
 
Never flown myself, no, and didn't fly often at all. I immediately corrected myself. It doesn't matter if a 757 is a jumbo jet like i falsely stated, or not. Not a small plane. Not what is smoking there.

Please link to photos of all the large jets that have crashed into very large , sprawling strutues like the Pentagon. After all you should be comparing similar fruits.

Concord, nope! It was not moving fast and hit the ground well before it hit the structure.

747 cargo, into the German apartment building, nope! the structure was lightly built and not nearly the width of the Pentagon.

Frankly I cannot think of anything similar before 9/11 or since.
 
Also not on youtube - and this goes especially to the anti-CIT truthers who joined after 2005 and think WTC7 is the smoking gun and CIT are a distraction at best - is this classic presentation (<10 min).

That rabbit hole will conjure up all manner of woo. From missile spotters to cordite sniffers. lol.

'It sounded like a missile' or 'it smelled like cordite' - lol. How many similie examples and cordite smellers do you think it should take to get your new investigation? lol.

To gain his comparison, how many real missiles had your witness actually witnessed before witnessing the sound of one at the pentagon?

To gain his comparison, how much 'cordite' had your witness smelled prior to the cordite he smelled at the pentagon? Are you aware of anything else that smells like cordite, in a fire, after an explosion?

Do you even know what cordite is /does/sounds like/how it works? ............or do ya just post the cool sounding stuff without actually looking into it to see if it is at all possible?
 
More ridiculous handwaving. What about a "thank you CE for making me learn something. Next time i won't be so gullible thanks to your debunk of YougeneDebs" from you, Arus808? Is that too much to ask for?

Come on, Reheat, Apathoid, Clinger, BCR, Mackey and the liar beachnut, whoever, if you have something to say: Put up or shut up.

Come on CE.............

Since the very beginnings of the CiT posting their contentions online they have been asked(by various posters and in various ways) how it is that they can put all their stock into eyewitness testimony as to the path the aircraft took and then discount all eyewitness testimony that states the aircraft impacted the Pentagon, and the complete lack of any eyewitnesses to a flyover.

The only 'answer' they have provided is one of a handwaving arguement of 'they were all fooled into thinking that'.
 
Maybe it's helpful to post the full body of evidence for a crashed 757 (although it's not the topic of this thread). Fits in under 7 min and mostly contains a couple of photographs of dubious origin. It's the famous "NTSB animation". That's at least what i've heard them they call it, but it's somehow semi-official. As close as you can come to an "official story" at the Pentagon.

Study the opening slides carefully. "Counter intuitive outcome" indeed. The people who made it cared about plausible deniability.



edit: Also pay attention to where the plane goes in that animation. It simply disappears.
 
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And yet there is no crashed jumbo jet to be seen anywhere at the Pentagon. Strange, isn't it? Ever thought about that?

Yes. And it occured to me that it might have been smashed to crap when impacting a heavily reinforced concrete wall. Funnily enough:

pentagondebris2.jpg


pentagondebris3.jpg


... among others
 
Never flown myself, no, and didn't fly often at all. I immediately corrected myself. It doesn't matter if a 757 is a jumbo jet like i falsely stated, or not. Not a small plane. Not what is smoking there.
If you can't get the easy stuff right its not a good sign.......

Next question, have you seen the results of an air crash first hand?
 

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