Roseanne Barr off the air

[GrandMasterFox]

I think he's a bit racist at heart (a bit more than some, a bit less than others), and I think he knows it as well. While a good actor and a gifted director, as a person he comes across in interviews etc as conflicted and disordered with views which appear more or less like classic US-Catholic conservatism (almost as bad as Kevin Sorbo's).

I was referring to when he blamed one of his antisematic tantrums on alchoholism. Even Southpark had a joke, saying that a woman who did a bad thing and claimed Alchoholism as an excuse went for the "Mel Gibson defense"

And that's when the shows are usually at their cringiest. "ABC presents: A very special episode of Home Improvement..."

And as I said, a lot of those were actually extremely memorable moments that got critical acclaim - Roseanne included.
The episode where John Goodman's character goes to jail for beating Jackie's boyfried when he found out he was physcially abusive to her got highly praised.

As did the episode where Roseanne appologizes to her son for hitting him and confessing to him that she was an abused child.

As did the episode where Roseanne was furious her son didn't want to kiss a black girl.


Sometimes show get those right and sometimes they don't.
Actors come in all shapes, sizes and levels of acting.

But it's not just comedians. Charlie Sheen was Charlie on his show(s?) -- probably because he'd forget his whoring character's name. "Oh yeah, I'm me..."

For a moment I thought you were kidding... Then I checked his IMDB profile.
WTF?

She is worth about 80 million

I doubt she is too worried

If it starts to hit the low 10s of millions I'm sure she can get a reality show on some cable channel to document her day to day poverty stricken plight

And tonnes will watch

I don't think how much money she has matters. She obviously seeks attention and wants to be in the media - otherwise why bother with Twitter in the first place.

Oh, Disney will be just fine, but still it was not a good week for their image with one of their biggest franchises laying an egg and having to fire the star of a successful sitcom because of racism.

Criticism of racism against - and particular against blacks - seem extremely absurd from a fear of backlash for them.

How would that work exactly?

We're boycotting ABC for having a racist actress spew garbage over Twitter. Heck, we'll boycott everything Disney puts out

Including Black Panther?

F$!@#$!@

 

[P.J. Denyer]

So when she's stating she looks like a love child of am ape and the Muslim Brotherhood she didn't know what she looked like?
Your honor, my defense is that when 8 made the remarks as to the appearance of the person, I was not actually aware of what the person looked like.

Wasn't that one of Trump's defences when he mocked that reporter?

 

[ponderingturtle]

I think I can see both sides.

I just mentioned this debate to Karen. Her first reaction was that both instances are equally childish name-calling and should be treated equally.

But then saw that calling our grandchild with climbing abilities “a little monkey” was perfectly innocent. To say the same about a black child could be offensive, even if not meant that way.

As an aside, Karen agreed to be my monkey as part of our wedding vows. Monkey is a slang term for a motorcycle sidecar passenger. Zero racial component as far as I know.

Seriously you are unaware of the racial history of monkey and ape as racial epithets?

Is calling someone a racial slur different from calling them an *******?

 

[quadraginta]

How long do White People need to pay for the sins of their forefathers before discrimination against White people becomes significant?

It isn't the sins of their forefathers which is causing their problems. Looking in a mirror would be more like it if they need a source.

And it's going to be a long time (if ever) before discrimination against whites becomes a significant problem for any reason.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Seriously you are unaware of the racial history of monkey and ape as racial epithets?

Is calling someone a racial slur different from calling them an *******?

I’m surprised that’s what you gleaned from my post.

But they say the perception is the reality, so there’s that.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trumps on it again

"Iger, where is my call of apology? You and ABC have offended millions of people, and they demand a response. How is Brian Ross doing? He tanked the market with an ABC lie, yet no apology. Double Standard!"


ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME !

 

[rwguinn]

I give you Howard Cosell
..http://howardcosell-littlemonkeycomment.blogspot.com/2011/03/look-at-that-little-monkey-run.html?m=1

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[Cleon]

I give you Howard Cosell
..http://howardcosell-littlemonkeycomment.blogspot.com/2011/03/look-at-that-little-monkey-run.html?m=1

I'm convinced. Give him his job back.

 

[Fizil]

You do know the history of calling blacks has nothing to do with that movie, nor was it even in the same era.

I can't believe anyone in this forum needs a reminder what 'black face' is about.


Even Dr Seuss drew black people to look like apes.

Holy Crap! Those are supposed to be black people? At least as a kid I am sure I would have thought they were just another weird creature inhabiting Seuss's worlds.

 

[varwoche]

Bigotry is bigotry. You shouldn't get a free pass just because your particular brand of irrational hatred isn't "racist".

Who do you think is getting a free pass, and what specifically was their transgression?

(I think you're referring to Maher but I'm not sure. )

 

[Andy_Ross]

Holy Crap! Those are supposed to be black people? At least as a kid I am sure I would have thought they were just another weird creature inhabiting Seuss's worlds.

Look old comics and cartoons.

A lot of the stuff up to the 30s was drawn like that

 

[varwoche]

Comedian makes racial joke, loses job. Oversensitive douchebag liberals complain, TV network caves.

People: just don't think you are making strides in equality and racism. You are not changing the way people think, you are merely silencing them. Keep sticking your heads in the sand and someone's bound to come along and kick your exposed ass back into reality.

War On Racism = War On Drugs = War On Terror = War On Poverty = Just Say No. Accomplishing nothing never felt so righteous!

Absurd for several reasons.

(1) Barr's "joke" aligns with hateful/crazy things she has said in the past. She doesn't get a "joke" pass here.

(2) Right-wingers who worship the free market whine like babies when it acts against them. Boo hoo.

(3) "People:" is so vague as to render your rant meaningless. Sharpen your pencil. Who do you have a problem with, and what specifically did they say/do to get your undies bunched?

 

[Hlafordlaes]

How long do White People need to pay for the sins of their forefathers before discrimination against White people becomes significant?

Paying? Discrimination? Oh, you mean not being able to lynch anymore, put thumbs on pay scales, or commit rape as a perk for power? Here's a lollipop.

Thanks for calling them sins. This means you know wrong was done. So why the freaking monuments to such crimes, like at Stone Mountain? Or might we detect, say, an utter lack of sincerity, based on very real evidence staring everyone in the face?

 

[varwoche]

Around Chicago, Valerie has a well deserved reputation as a stooge for the Iranians.

There's another way to word this smear that has become popular of late... "people are saying".

 

[luchog]

How long do White People need to pay for the sins of their forefathers before discrimination against White people becomes significant?

First, they need to finally stop committing the sins of their forefathers, that would be a big help.

Second, there actually has to be measurable discrimination against white people that is even noticeable when compared to white people's discrimination against pretty much everyone else.

Since neither of those have actually happened yet, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[luchog]

Holy Crap! Those are supposed to be black people? At least as a kid I am sure I would have thought they were just another weird creature inhabiting Seuss's worlds.

Look old comics and cartoons.

A lot of the stuff up to the 30s was drawn like that

Not just the '30s. That was a pretty common way to depict black people, especially native Africans, well up into the '50s.

 

[Craig B]

... Oversensitive douchebag liberals complain ...
War On Racism = War On Drugs = War On Terror = War On Poverty = Just Say No. Accomplishing nothing never felt so righteous!

When oversensitive righteous douchebag libs want to virtue signal, what is it they virtue signal about? People having fun. I'll tell you, they're down on folks who like having a good time. Like recreational drug use. Skin up a spliff, take a few tokes and the douchebags jump on you.

Now what are they up to? There're trying to stop people doing recreational racism for personal enjoyment. You never got together with a few good ole boys and fired up a cross in front of a shack full of shrieking *******? Then you just don't know what recreational means. That what the virtue signalling douchebags want to achieve. No more fun. Makes these libtard pervs feel righteous too.

 

[TheGoldcountry]

Paying? Discrimination? Oh, you mean not being able to lynch anymore, put thumbs on pay scales, or commit rape as a perk for power? Here's a lollipop.

Thanks for calling them sins. This means you know wrong was done. So why the freaking monuments to such crimes, like at Stone Mountain? Or might we detect, say, an utter lack of sincerity, based on very real evidence staring everyone in the face?

Recognizing there's a social problem that should be addressed by said society isn't "paying for sins."

It's not a punishment, it's a social responsibility.

 

[Jono]

Jarret doesn't look like an ape. She looks like a gelfling.

Yeah, now that you mention it.

 

[Jono]

No blacks, not a single one of them resemble an ape. How do you not understand that?

Not true (naturally it is not exclusive to black people), as much as we are all humans, we all look like apes... cause we are apes (insofar as we're all, again, hominids).