Will The GOP Pick up Ted Kennedy's Seat?

[dudalb]

Yup, I agree 100%. This kind of hubris has sunk more than one politician over the years... it's always interesting to see that some people never seem to learn from the mistakes of others.

If Coakley wins, which is still more likely than not, I hope that this serves as a serious wake-up call for her (and the Dems in general) about not taking anything for granted.

If she loses, a distinct possibility at this point it seems, then I hope the Democrats learn a thing or two about picking more decent candidates who are serious about running for office. Perhaps they need to get kicked in the ass a bit in order to right the ship, so to speak.

Still, it will be interesting to see (if Brown wins) how he relates to the Tea Party crowd once in office. I can see them getting pissed off if he doesn't take the hard-line conservative stance they'd like to see in Congress. Of course, that kind of stance won't sit well with the wider MA populace.

As I said...

Sadly, a lot of Democrats will probably just blame the stupid blue collar voters.
Sad to say, there is a element of elitism in the Democratic party toward Blue Collar and Rural voters that has caused them problems in the past, and they just do not seem to be able to get rid of. Bring the problem up, and a lot of Dems deny it exists. And you have seen this attitude displayed here on a number of occasions.
But Hubris is a factor too. Remember a year ago at this time a number of people here were dancing on the graves of the GOP?

 

[dudalb]

Did she get her campaign people from the Rudy Giuliani Political Campaign School? She certainly has the self-importance and cluelessness parts down pat.

I think the main problem is the Dems thought they had the race in the bag, and did not really put much effort into the campaign. Always a bad mistake.

 

[novice skeptic]

Now it's Coakley 60.0 and Brown 37.0

Not any more.53-47 Brown.

 

[novice skeptic]

I think the main problem is the Dems thought they had the race in the bag, and did not really put much effort into the campaign. Always a bad mistake.

This isn't really all that true. The Dems raised a ton of money and used it. Her ads are nonstop on boston tv. However, Coakley's problem is/was that the more people see and hear her the less they like her. With Brown it has been the opposite. Whether true or not his perception in Mass. has become that he is a decent "regular" guy. You can argue whether that makes him an effective legislator or not.

OTOH Coakley has a few strikes against her with her handling of some high profile criminal cases. The Fells Acre case is just one. There is also a bit of an uproar about her handling of the alleged rape of a child by a police officer.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...1/06/some_saw_coakley_as_lax_on_05_rape_case/

 

[Peephole]

Wow, not good news for her, but this seems to be contrary to the only other prediction market I've seen on this question...

Inkling Markets
Coakley 87.3%
Brown 12.7%

What the hell?! Can anyone explain this to me?

Explain what? It's a prediction market, it doesn't mean anything.

 

[Whiplash]

Explain what? It's a prediction market, it doesn't mean anything.

I believe it has been shown, historically, to correlate with what happens.

Not any surefire thing by any means, but enough connection that simply handwaving it as completely worthless has got to be a matter of some deep denial.

 

[Brainster]

Well, the mud is definitely starting to fly from the Democrats. How bad is it? The Democrats are claiming that Brown wanted hospitals to turn away rape victims. Even liberal bloggers are appalled:

The mailer — paid for by the Massachusetts Democratic Party — says the claim is based on “a law to let emergency hospitals turn away rape victims in need of emergency contraception.” That appears to be a reference to a Brown-sponsored 2005 amendment that would have exempted hospital personnel, on religious grounds, to inform victims of the availability of the morning after pill.

As Coakley’s own Web site says, after Brown’s amendment was rejected, he voted in favor of the bill to require emergency rooms to provide rape victims with emergency contraceptives, and the whole debate seems to be more nuanced than the mailer suggests.

Over at Firedoglake (top 5 liberal blogger), a gal tombstoned at Democratic Underground writes of her own disenchantment with Coakley:

In this post, I did not advocate for others to not vote for Coakley. It was an expression of my own anger. Quite frankly, I still do not know if I will vote for her or abstain from voting on Tuesday. This is not something I am taking lightly and I have been struggling with this issue as a ethical crisis. I stated in the post that I would be posting a deeper explanation of the struggle I was experiencing, as I believe it coincides with the struggle of many in the democratic party. In fact, I was following up with this very post and after two hours of emotional reflection and writing, I went to launch it on the site. But, when I went to launch the post, I discovered that I was thrown out of the community, and I was never able to share this important experience with the group.

 

[Brainster]

I believe it has been shown, historically, to correlate with what happens.

Not any surefire thing by any means, but enough connection that simply handwaving it as completely worthless has got to be a matter of some deep denial.

I'd say that it's a pretty good barometer of where the conventional wisdom is on an issue or election; not a prediction.

Glad to see you stuck around in the politics sub-forum; I certainly appreciate your posts.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

When's the election?

 

[leftysergeant]

From the moment that this choice was announced, the press turned very viciously against him, and we got to spend the next eight years being treated by every possible effort on the part of the press to depict Dan Quayle as immature and unintelligent.

But that's their job, to tell us what idiots idiots in power are.

 

[leftysergeant]

Aggressive’ Coakley aide knocks down scribe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-iQ7vcwqo

Give it a rest. The AG was finished answering questions and had walked away from real news organizations and some nut bar from a lunatic rag tried to push his way up to talk to her and an aide reacted as though to a threat.

whoop

 

[mhaze]

When's the election?

Tuesday we see if Coakley jumped the shark.

 

[WildCat]

Give it a rest. The AG was finished answering questions and had walked away from real news organizations and some nut bar from a lunatic rag tried to push his way up to talk to her and an aide reacted as though to a threat.

whoop

Yeah right, that's why Coakley and her aide lied about it before coming clean and apologizing after the video came out.

But at least you are consistent, a good Marxist always knows that eliminating and bullying the free press is good for policy.

 

[novice skeptic]

Give it a rest. The AG was finished answering questions and had walked away from real news organizations and some nut bar from a lunatic rag tried to push his way up to talk to her and an aide reacted as though to a threat.

whoop

I'm just guessing that if it was a Palin aide pushing down someone from Mother Jones you'd have a different take.

 

[technoextreme]

This isn't really all that true. The Dems raised a ton of money and used it. Her ads are nonstop on boston tv. However, Coakley's problem is/was that the more people see and hear her the less they like her. With Brown it has been the opposite. Whether true or not his perception in Mass. has become that he is a decent "regular" guy. You can argue whether that makes him an effective legislator or not.

OTOH Coakley has a few strikes against her with her handling of some high profile criminal cases. The Fells Acre case is just one. There is also a bit of an uproar about her handling of the alleged rape of a child by a police officer.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...1/06/some_saw_coakley_as_lax_on_05_rape_case/

Wow that is ****ing amazing considering that one of Brown's ad makes me think he is a jackass.

 

[Thunder]

Even if the GOP wins the seat, we can still pass health-care reform.

we still will have 59 seats, and that's a damn good majority.

 

[technoextreme]

Sadly, a lot of Democrats will probably just blame the stupid blue collar voters.

I'd hate to tell you but they would be right. After seeing Scott Brown supporters in action I saw a bunch of racist stupid people.

 

[DJW]

I'd hate to tell you but they would be right. After seeing Scott Brown supporters in action I saw a bunch of racist stupid people.

Yeah, let's all pray to your god that you have evidence that you can present to back up your assessment of Scott Brown's supporters "in action".

 

[Magyar]

Yeah, let's all pray to your god that you have evidence that you can present to back up your assessment of Scott Brown's supporters "in action".

Well, I just had a acouple come to my door. UNFORTUNATELY I didn't have my cell phone handy to hit the record

But I was informed in no uncertain terms that a vote for Coakley will insure my soul in hell.

I tried to get them to stay but -apparently they are making the rounds in my neighborhood with a bus full of people and they were being summoned to go.

 

[technoextreme]

Yeah, let's all pray to your god that you have evidence that you can present to back up your assessment of Scott Brown's supporters "in action".

For ****s sake. I'm a ****ing idiot who doesn't know how to hit a ****ing button. I missed the part where I was called a brainwashed socialist by proxy. And yes by and large I know that these are probably the exception but can't you do better when the president arrives? Also, what the hell is it with this flag? I saw this flag a few times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
Answer: Tea party.
Saw this once:
http://obamalies.net/images/obama_joker_face.jpg