Why church is so dangerous !!!

[Glen.Nogami]

I realise you are new to the rules, but calling me a below bridge dwelling folk is a violation, you can say my ideas dwell below bridges, but not me personnally.

Have you ever read, say, The Three Billy Goats Gruff? You are a troll, or someone who posts valueless, inflammatory babble for their own amusement. That is what the allusion means.

Be objective not subjective and follow the rules. But then again the heathen seldom follow any rules only those they make up for themselves.

Oh good, heathen . I've never seen anyone seriously use that as a pejorative before. Also, the forum rules were most likely created by skeptics, or heathens. So, perhaps we do, in fact, follow the rules. Perhaps your fixation on yourself creates the illusion of biases and shadowy conspiracies against you.

And YES, I would think posting recipes and kitten pictures would easily be deemed spamming... as it attemopts to destroy a thread and the discussion.

Yes, it does attempt to destroy the thread. Why? Because the posters have grown tired of you, Davidjayjordan. To use the parallel structure of which you are obnoxiously fond, we've grown tired of your insults. We've grown tired of your fallacies. Most of all, though, we have grown tired of you.

 

[Kochanski]

I realise you are new to the rules, but calling me a below bridge dwelling folk is a violation, you can say my ideas dwell below bridges, but not me personnally.

Be objective not subjective and follow the rules. But then again the heathen seldom follow any rules only those they make up for themselves.

And YES, I would think posting recipes and kitten pictures would easily be deemed spamming... as it attemopts to destroy a thread and the discussion.

DJJ calling you a below bridge dwelling folk is calling you a troll and that may not be a particularly flattering description but it is an apt one based on your actions here.

Posting recipes and kittens is our response to trolls. If you have a problem with that STOP TROLLING. You are not discussing anything, you preaching and throwing insults at anyone who dares to question your delusions.

 

[temporalillusion]

temporalillusion, people here have to commit a breach of the rules to be kicked out. Trolls usually just get kitty pictures and recipes (often the recipes actually involve kittens). So, since we haven't had a kitty pic in a while on DJJ's thread it is time for a kitty.

Ah, an excellent use of cuteness!

I realise you are new to the rules, but calling me a below bridge dwelling folk is a violation, you can say my ideas dwell below bridges, but not me personnally.

Yet your rearranging my ID in "clever" ways to call me names was what inspired me in the first place! I am but a n00b, young and impressionable. You have nothing but your own inadequate example to blame.

I thought the term was appropriate to describe the pattern of behaviour, as I do not believe you are stupid or mentally ill.

And YES, I would think posting recipes and kitten pictures would easily be deemed spamming... as it attemopts to destroy a thread and the discussion.

I'm sure when the discussion can be located it won't be derailed.

 

[O Green World]

O Green, Yes telling kids about an imaginary imaginary sky man is not helpful but telling them of a loving Creator who created all things for love is truly helpful, otherwise children can grow up and become foolish posters who post like foolish children. I hope you don;t become one of them....

For YES, Green the imaginary church is extremely dangerous, the real one of love is not.

DJJ telling a child about any sky man who views and records all that they do can distract a developing mind away from things that are important, because that child just might be the one who changes the world. It matters little weather it is a loving one or not. Just the extra worry of displeasing the sky man may lead to a path that would never make use of that persons real potential.
Weather kids grow up to being foolish doesn't concern me, I doubt belief in a sky man makes any difference in their foolishness. (If that is what you were trying to get at)
As to any church being real is laughable. All churches have become money makers, and they sit on their mounds of money. So I doubt there are any churches that will stay "pure" when the cash starts to come in from old ladies who concerns themselves with the end of the world.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ telling a child about any sky man who views and records all that they do can distract a developing mind away from things that are important, because that child just might be the one who changes the world. (((If they do, they must first learn cause and effect and that actions cause reactions, and we have to take responsibility for our actions....good old Biblical principles.))))...It matters little weather it is a loving one or not. (((NO love determines whether our actions fit into the whole or whether or not they are downright selfish, as selfish ones cause worse reactions, and bring society further into chaos and degradation)))) Just the extra worry of displeasing the sky man may lead to a path that would never make use of that persons real potential. ((Forget sky man, doing actions that are selfish do not even help us in the long run, as we each reap what we sow eventually...and so should learn that love conquers problems nit selfishness)))

Weather kids grow up to being foolish doesn't concern me, (((?????))) I doubt belief in a sky man makes any difference in their foolishness. If that is what you were trying to get at (((Foolishness is a curwse, humor is a blessing. Huge huge difference, one is mean, the other malicious.)))

As to any church being real is laughable. (((Even though this one is deemed pure and healthy))) All churches have become money makers, (((Which could be said about this one... but Yes, the church system is devoid..SEE churches are dangerous thread. For they are vile as jesus said))) and they sit on their mounds of money. (((Some )))

So I doubt there are any churches that will stay "pure" when the cash starts to come in from old ladies who concerns themselves with the end of the world.

((Yes so join a group of individuals that just do things for love not for selfish or monetary motives)))

 

[Darth Rotor]

To stay on this forum, you have to be a believer in nothing to survive, as truthers are harassed usually into oblivion.... as you even have cute little titles and labels for them, .......... even though the vast majority of you believe in nothing and stand for nothing except what the government feds you.

How does it feel to be wrong, David, as in dead wrong?

Please take a glance at my ridiculously high post count (from a variety of JREF sub fora) and consider that I have placed my Faith in salvation through Jesus Christ, and his divinity. It irks some of the denizens here, and causes more than one to get all snooty and irritable, but somehow, I manage to hang in there. I wonder why that is? How do I manage, Brother David, against the self revelaed truth utter nonsense you just posted?

That isn't all I believe in. I believe I'll have a glass of Chianti when I get home, to celebrate the Ides of March. We'll have a Caesar's salad for dinner. Need I await the thunderbolt to strike me down?

As to the denizens of this forum believing "what the government feds{sic} you" (nice unintentional pun, Brother David) I suggest you head over to the Politics forum and read the avalanche of anti-government screeds and rants over there. You will find some of the same players there as here.

In other words, brother David, you are speaking out of your backside. That's not a good witness, capisce?

DR

 

[Davidjayjordan]

How does it feel to be wrong, David, as in dead wrong?

Please take a glance at my ridiculously high post count (from a variety of JREF sub fora) and consider that I have placed my Faith in salvation through Jesus Christ, and his divinity. It irks some of the denizens here, and causes more than one to get all snooty and irritable, but somehow, I manage to hang in there. I wonder why that is? How do I manage, Brother David, against the self revelaed truth utter nonsense you just posted?

That isn't all I believe in. I believe I'll have a glass of Chianti when I get home, to celebrate the Ides of March. We'll have a Caesar's salad for dinner. Need I await the thunderbolt to strike me down?

As to the denizens of this forum believing "what the government feds{sic} you" (nice unintentional pun, Brother David) I suggest you head over to the Politics forum and read the avalanche of anti-government screeds and rants over there. You will find some of the same players there as here.

In other words, brother David, you are speaking out of your backside. That's not a good witness, capisce?

DR

Strange post Daarth, are you saying that some old timers HERE actually don't believe in the MAGIC BULLET theories and don't believe in the Warren Report, and don't believe the government is loving and kind and don;t believe the rich and powerful love them and tell them truths to free and liberate them.

This is amazing. I never read any old timers threads where a true skeptics was battling against government lies and conspiracies. All I have read is new CT's fighting against the false skeptics who bombarded them with 'prove it prove it prove it.... when beyond doubt conspiracuies are proveable.

So what conspiracy thread against the government have you started. I might like to read it....

Just tell me the thread title. Thanks.

PS) As for you beliveing in Salvation thru Jesus..Great !!

But as mentioned the vast majority are athiestic HERE.. That's set mathematics, as we can;t say all but most or the majority.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Strange post Daarth, are you saying that some old timers HERE actually don't believe in the MAGIC BULLET theories and don't believe in the Warren Report, and don't believe the government is loving and kind and don;t believe the rich and powerful love them and tell them truths to free and liberate them.

This is amazing. I never read any old timers threads where a true skeptics was battling against government lies and conspiracies. All I have read is new CT's fighting against the false skeptics who bombarded them with 'prove it prove it prove it.... when beyond doubt conspiracuies are proveable.

So what conspiracy thread against the government have you started. I might like to read it....

Just tell me the thread title. Thanks.

PS) As for you beliveing in Salvation thru Jesus..Great !!

But as mentioned the vast majority are athiestic HERE.. That's set mathematics, as we can;t say all but most or the majority.

You're just trying to shift the blame to others. You've been repeatedly shown that claims of yours are just flat wrong (how far away is the moon?) yet you refuse to modify your position in the face of contradictory evidence. I suspect your ego won't allow you to admit you are wrong about anything so you try to turn your opponents into straw men.

I'll paraphrase:

"They don;t buy my moon landing hoax conspiracy theories? Well it can;t possibly be that they are right about the factual errors in my claims, so they must all believe everything that the government tells them. Yes, I;ll make that unsupported claim in an attempt to draw everyone;s attention (including my own) away from the gaping holes in my theories."

To believe every statement from members of any government must be true is foolish. But to believe that every statement from members of any government must be a lie is equally foolish.

 

[strathmeyer]

All I have read is new CT's fighting against the false skeptics who bombarded them with 'prove it prove it prove it.... when beyond doubt conspiracuies are proveable.

Davidjayjordan- can you please explain what a 'false skeptic' is? You don't have to offer a long winded explanation, just a short, concise sentence will do.

 

[bruto]

Strange post Daarth, are you saying that some old timers HERE actually don't believe in the MAGIC BULLET theories and don't believe in the Warren Report, and don't believe the government is loving and kind and don;t believe the rich and powerful love them and tell them truths to free and liberate them.

This is amazing. I never read any old timers threads where a true skeptics was battling against government lies and conspiracies. All I have read is new CT's fighting against the false skeptics who bombarded them with 'prove it prove it prove it.... when beyond doubt conspiracuies are proveable.

So what conspiracy thread against the government have you started. I might like to read it....

Just tell me the thread title. Thanks.

PS) As for you beliveing in Salvation thru Jesus..Great !!

But as mentioned the vast majority are athiestic HERE.. That's set mathematics, as we can;t say all but most or the majority.

Who gives a flying [rule8] about the majority? You can't give a satisfactory answer to the minority either.

And why do you continue to think that no opinion is worth addressing unless the person has either created a web page or a forum thread of his own? this isn't a thread starting contest: it's a discussion of the ideas you have posted on this thread. All else is totally irrelevant, and an excuse for your incompetence in defending your own ideas.

 

[Tanstaafl]

Davidjayjordan- can you please explain what a 'false skeptic' is? You don't have to offer a long winded explanation, just a short, concise sentence will do.

I think in case case, a 'false skeptic' is one who is skeptical of the rantings of DJJ.

A 'true skeptic' is skeptical of the real world.

Actually, I think DJJ did post a concise definition in one of these threads of his, but I'm not inclined to do the kind of intellectual dumpster-diving that would be required to find it.

 

[slingblade]

I don't really care what it is you're trying to do, as I've decided long ago that postulations such as all of yours have no interest for me, whatsoever. That said, I will answer your questions as posted.

Background: Fundamentalist holy-roller Christian from near-birth until roughly 30. Apostate agnostic from 30 until roughly 40. Confirmed die-hard atheist ever since.

Strange post Daarth, are you saying that some old timers HERE actually don't believe in the MAGIC BULLET theories

Had to look that up, that magic bullet theory thing. All I found was this:

Evil Wikipedia:

A magic bullet is a very accurate weapon or tool and may refer to:

A perfect drug that cures a disease without a risk of side effects
The Magic Bullet, a 1940 Hollywood biographic film about Paul Ehrlich, starring Edward G. Robinson
Magic Bullet (appliance), the name of a kitchen appliance
Magic bullet software, used for video editing
Magic Bullet (band),an Australian Pop/Rock band
an enchanted bullet of German folklore and a feature of Carl Maria von Weber's ghostly opera Der Freischütz
Single bullet theory, used disparagingly by conspiracy theorists to describe the John F. Kennedy assassination
Hypodermic needle model or "Magic bullet principle", in communication research, a theory about media audiences
"The Magic Bullet" (Angel episode), an episode of the television series Angel

Not sure what I'm supposed to believe or not believe from that list, but I pretty much don't believe in any of it.

and don't believe in the Warren Report,

Never read it. Don't care who killed him, he's dead. Next.

and don't believe the government is loving and kind

No, I don't believe the government is loving and kind. I believe it is staffed by self-centered people out for their own good and to hell with anyone else. You know: just like everything and everywhere else.

and don;t believe the rich and powerful love them

The rich and powerful don't know me. I'm a white trash trailer park resident. They don't even let me rummage through their garbage.

and tell them truths to free and liberate them.

Everyone lies. Ev. Er. Y. One. Trust no one.

This is amazing. I never read any old timers threads where a true skeptics was battling against government lies and conspiracies.

I don't battle behemoths and monoliths. The world goes on, with me or without me. If it doesn't care, I don't know why I should be arsed.

Apathy, baby. It's where it's at.

 

[Glen.Nogami]

when beyond doubt conspiracuies are proveable.

Well, then, all the requests for proof shouldn't present much problem!

Link away, DJJ, link away.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Well, then, all the requests for proof shouldn't present much problem!

Link away, DJJ, link away.

The trouble with false skeptics and systemites is that they are willingly ignorant. You have the potennial to understand as you can read and write and comprehend, but because you are so attached to the system and your position in it, it clouds your intellect and decisions, and hence makes you willingly ignorant.


2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant

Its your will, that is the problem. As you have access to the information concerning conspiracies but choose to IGNORE these truths that are discoverable.


Jhn 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

In other words, false skeptics have no cloak for their sin of not knowing these cons and deceptions, WHY because it is readily available knowledge now, thru the internet and other sources, besides the Lord's SPIRIT.

So Glen, false skeptics have no excuse, no cloak for their sin of not knowing. They are responsible and have to grow up and get clued in, as they have been given chance after chance

They are without excuse, even though they claim they just need proof. For their claim of needing more and more and more proof is bogus and can no longer be justified.

 

[Kochanski]

DJJ, we are not ignorant. You have taken and given great pains to spew all sorts of info at us. We know what you are saying. We do NOT accept that what you are saying makes any sense to those of us who live in the real world.

You have not proven that there is a great sky daddy. You spew prophesy but give us no compelling reason to accept what you say. You spew scripture but give us no compelling reason to accept that either.

The internet is NOT the ultimate answer to all questions, there is NO reason to accept what we find on your website or any other website as being valid. Just because it is in print does not make it true. This is not "the Secret". You can not wish things into reality because you want them to be true. You can not will them into reality but putting them up on a website.

We do not accept your delusions. We have no reason to accept your word. You provide no evidence.

Quoting scripture endlessly is NOT proof. Those books were written a long time ago by MEN. And the versions you are reading have been translated multiple times from their original language, so even if there "might" be some truth in them, there is no guaranty that the translation is true to the original words and intent.

These are things that skeptics understand and so we require EVIDENCE. Yes, we are looking for proof. Not more and more proof, ANY PROOF. You have provided none.

 

[Foster Zygote]

The trouble with false skeptics and systemites is that they are willingly ignorant. You have the potennial to understand as you can read and write and comprehend, but because you are so attached to the system and your position in it, it clouds your intellect and decisions, and hence makes you willingly ignorant.


2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant

Its your will, that is the problem. As you have access to the information concerning conspiracies but choose to IGNORE these truths that are discoverable.


Jhn 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

In other words, false skeptics have no cloak for their sin of not knowing these cons and deceptions, WHY because it is readily available knowledge now, thru the internet and other sources, besides the Lord's SPIRIT.

So Glen, false skeptics have no excuse, no cloak for their sin of not knowing. They are responsible and have to grow up and get clued in, as they have been given chance after chance

They are without excuse, even though they claim they just need proof. For their claim of needing more and more and more proof is bogus and can no longer be justified.

Evidence was requested of you. You offer none.

 

[strathmeyer]

Evidence was requested of you. You offer none.

You're ignorant!

 

[Foster Zygote]

You're ignorant!

Ain't we all?

 

[bruto]

You're ignorant!

He's not necessarily ignorant. He's wrong. Sometimes there's a difference.

 

[Kochanski]

Yes, there is a difference between ignorant and wrong.

In DJJ's case he happens to be both. He is ignorant because he has no idea what evolution is. That is because when he was being taught it, he chose to put his fingers in his ears and say "la la la, I can't hear you" because it would mess with his "faith".

He is wrong because, well, I don't want to go on for many pages about things that have already been discussed far too many times in many threads.