Panoply_Prefect
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Who's who in the 911-truth movement?
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William Rodriguez, WTC janitor during the 9/11 attacks. Has made statements about explosions in the WTC basement. Filed a civil RICO lawsuit with two other people, directed against the government claiming a conspiracy on it's part. Tours lecturing about his WTC experiences and holds public speeches contradicting the 9/11 commission's account. Makes appearances with the truth movement crowd.
Panoply_Prefect
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I appreciate all the effort you people are putting into all this research and maybe it could be a handy reference tool, but as far as I'm concerned they are all either kooks or conmen. No need to go further than that. Why boost their egos by writing little biographies of these people?
If they are leaders of the Truth Movement they are either crazy or scam artists, they don't deserve this kind of attention IMO.
If there are sane sincere Truthers out there, they are there because they have fallen for the pseudo science and lies of the kooks and scammers.
Maybe this list will help people to identify just which particular kook they are dealing with in any given debate, but why bother? To paraphrase some famous bloke: "By their loopiness shall ye know them".
Just my two cents.
If they are leaders of the Truth Movement they are either crazy or scam artists, they don't deserve this kind of attention IMO.
If there are sane sincere Truthers out there, they are there because they have fallen for the pseudo science and lies of the kooks and scammers.
Maybe this list will help people to identify just which particular kook they are dealing with in any given debate, but why bother? To paraphrase some famous bloke: "By their loopiness shall ye know them".
Just my two cents.
Dave Rogers
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What I aould find really useful here is a listing for each entry of which other people on the list have publicly accused them of being government disinformation agents - it would illustrate very clearly the depth of disunity and disagreement over fundamentals that exists within the movement. It would take some work, but Mike at 911 Myths has some very good starting points and I'd be happy to follow some of them up if you're interested.
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Appreciate your views, Brainache.
I think this could be a good list to put together. I doubt this gives any significant attention to anyone.
What I think gives too much attention to wrong people, is the endless debating attention we give to the likes of Lyte Trip and Christophera. We have shown a million times they are wrong. Why give them all the attention all the time? I couldn't care less what these few individual think anymore. They are hopeless HC CT's.
I think this could be a good list to put together. I doubt this gives any significant attention to anyone.
What I think gives too much attention to wrong people, is the endless debating attention we give to the likes of Lyte Trip and Christophera. We have shown a million times they are wrong. Why give them all the attention all the time? I couldn't care less what these few individual think anymore. They are hopeless HC CT's.
I just think that the people on the list will get a little ego boost from this list. A kind of: "Ooh look, the JREF is scared of my Truthiness, I must be doing something right".
I know that isn't the intent here, but I think that's what these people will think.
I take your point about the hard core trolls although Christophera seems to have dropped off the radar (I hope he is getting help), but when they come here and post their BS it needs to be shown for what it is. If they didn't try spreading lies, no one would need to argue with them.
So Lyte, Scooby, TS1234, MaGZ, Pagan etc will get responses as long as they post here. If we don't respond to them, the lurkers might think it's because we can't.
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Well, my intent was more to help myself. These are the bulk of the guys whos work or homepages tend to pop up most frequently, and this way I dont have to refind the link to Steven Jones paper, or JDXs FDR rants each time someone mentions them or uses their work. It has already proven handy for me.
The problem with CTs are that if un-refuted, the occasional lurker or fence-sitter might just think that they've got something. Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
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The problem with CTs are that if un-refuted, the occasional lurker or fence-sitter might just think that they've got something. Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
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We should be able to put a "Truther - Already Debunked" tag next to a username, when someone is constantly spreading truther BS. Everyone would know not to take that guy seriously
And you people on that list, we are not scared of you. We have just found out, that you are constantly lying.
Yep OK. I'm just feeling a bit grumpy today. Maybe I should talk to Sylvia and get my spirit guide sorted out or something.
If it helps you to keep a list of these guys, go ahead, but don't come crying to me when they start quoting your list as proof of their power and influence over the evil JREFers.
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Yep OK. I'm just feeling a bit grumpy today. Maybe I should talk to Sylvia and get my spirit guide sorted out or something.
If it helps you to keep a list of these guys, go ahead, but don't come crying to me when they start quoting your list as proof of their power and influence over the evil JREFers.
You have my word I wont m8...
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So how 'bout this version? (Added Rodriguez and a bunch of links.)
Who's who in the 911-truth movement?
Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, British author of The War on Freedom: How & Why America was Attacked, September 11, 2001, an early "inside job" book that would greatly influence others including David Ray Griffin. Expanded his material with The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism and added a British dimension with The London Bombings: An Independent Inquiry. Writes on a blog called The Cutting Edge.
Dylan Avery, Author of the Loose Change-video, which basically questions the different reports made about the 911 attacks. The project apparently started out as a work of fiction, but later Avery changed that to calling it a documentary. Is currently finishing the third version, called "Loose Change Final Cut". Has his own forum.
Loose Change is refuted here.
Robert Balsamo, AKA JDX – Pilots for 911 truth. Apparently a pilot who's online activity is centered around the analysis of the FDR, or ”black box”, of flight AA77 found at the Pentagon, where he claims its data disputes the official path. Author of the video ”Pandoras Black Box”. Has his own forum.
The FDR is explained here.
Kevin Barrett: University lecturer and a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Lectures about Islam.
Jason Bermas, researcher for the ”Loose Change” video – see Dylan Avery
Loose Change is refuted here.
Andreas von Bülow, german lawyer, writer and ex SPD politician. Wrote The CIA and September 11, in which he claims 911 was an inside job. Member of Scholars for 911 truth. Apparently he claims that WTC7 was the staging post for the entire attack and his theory is that the planes were remote controlled to fly into the Twin Towers, after which WTC7 was imploded to cover up the evidence.
James "Jim" Fetzer , a Ph.D in philosopy, heads the "Scholars for 9/11 truth". Has had a recent breakup with Steven E Jones, who left and formed his own site. The breakup centered around Fetzers and Jones different opinions regarding certain 911-theories, eg the "Starwars"-theory of Judy Wood, the "no planes"-theory and the alleged use of small thermonuclear devices at the Twin Towers. He also has his own personal site.
David Ray Griffin, a retired professor of theology and philosphy, author of ”The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9-11 ” and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. Has his own non-911 related homepage.
Gerard Holmgren, an Australian 9/11 researcher who had a significant influence on early "inside job" thinking. His support for more extreme views (the Naudet video was staged, the South tower impact videos are faked) have lead to Holmgren being eclipsed by others in recent years, though, and now he's best known for attacking everyone else (Steven Jones, Alex Jones, Jim Hoffman, more).
Eric Hufschmid, author of the ”Painful Deceptions”-video. Also active in Holocaust Revisionism.
There is a brief discussion about the links between Holocaust denial and 911-truthers here, and here.
Jim Hoffman, a software engineer, author of ”WTC 9/11 Demolition Analysis. Homepages include 911 review, 9-11 Research and WTC7.net.
Daniel Hopsicker, a journalist who suggests the Florida-based pilots were involved in drug-smuggling operations and that there was high-level Government knowledge. Also notable for claiming that Mohamed Atta used cocaine, drank, partied with strippers and more. Hopsicker supports this with interviews from Amanda Keller, someone he says was Atta's Florida girlfriend (although that's sometimes questioned, or even ridiculed, and she now denies it). Hopsicker gave his account in the book Welcome to Terrorland, and publishes more stories on his own site, The Mad Cow Morning News. He's criticised by some 9/11 researchers, though, for avoiding theories like controlled demolition.
Phil Jayhan, suggested along with Deborah Simon that photos of the plane that hit the South Tower showed it had a "pod" on the underside, that may have fired a missile at the tower immediately before impact. Also gave Dylan Avery some money in April 2005 to help with pressing DVDs of the first edition of Loose Change, although the two have since fallen out and are now feuding.
Alex Jones, talkshow host and head of Prisonplanet and Inforwars.com and Infowars.net. Has his own Myspace-area.
Steven E. Jones, retired Ph.D in physics who after a dispute with James Fetzer left co-founded Scholars for 911 Truth, to form his own, called "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice". Steven Jones is the authour of the ”Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?”-paper, where he argues that thermite were used to bring down the Twin Towers. After publishing his paper on his homepage at Brigham Young University, his employeer put him on paid leave to review his 911-work. During this period however Jones and the University agreed on him going into early retirement.
Merc AKA Aldo Marquis, together with Lyte Trip co-founder of ”Citizen Investigation Team” and author of The Pentacon - a video that claims to show that the AA77 flight flew on a different path towards the Pentagon. Uses the forum of Pilots for 911 truth.
This forums has deemed that The Pentacon basically needs no refutation. It refutes itself. However, it is discussed here, here and there is a brief, but to the point, debunk here.
Thierry Meyssan, french author and journalist who published 911 The Big Lie.
Mike Ruppert, former LAPD detective who runs the web site From the Wilderness, "a newsletter and website dedicated to investigating political cover-ups". His web articles and book Crossing the Rubicon popularised the idea that NORAD war games were key to the 9/11 "inside job", that "fake blips" inserted onto radar screens may have confused the FAA, that Dick Cheney was in charge of NORAD on 9/11, and more. Left the US in July 2006 complaining of harrassment, but still writes online at a Peak Oil Blog.
William Rodriguez, WTC janitor during the 9/11 attacks. Has made statements about explosions in the WTC basement. Filed a civil RICO lawsuit with two other people, directed against the government claiming a conspiracy on it's part. Tours lecturing about his WTC experiences and holds public speeches contradicting the 9/11 commission's account. Makes appearances with the truth movement crowd.
Korey Rowe, producer of the ”Loose Change” - video – see Dylan Avery
Loose Change is refuted here.
Kevin R. Ryan, an lab director at Environmental Health Laboratories Inc. wrote an open letter to NIST questioning their report. He claimed that his alleged employer Underwriter Laboratories had tested and certified the steel in the Twin Towers. The open letter which was published at Septembereleventh.org led to mr Ryans subsequent termination at EHL. The reason given was that he had expressed his own opinions as though they were the institutional opinions of Underwriter Laboratories. I believe that Ryan is the source for the "No way WTC Steel Could Melt At 2000 F" -claim that later gave path for "Only CD could account for molten steel at WTC".
Richard Siegel, author of 9-11 Eyewitness. Apparently he has had a fallout with other parts of the truther-community and seem to consider it a fraud. He has called out for all truther-leaders to take a lie detector test, to weed out all infiltrators. Siegel has his own forums, and blog.
”Sofia”, AKA Sofia Shafquat, author of the ”911 Mysteries”-video. She created and narrated the film 9-11 Mysteries Part 1: Demolitions with Brad Waddell. The film was based on a play that she and Brad performed in Los Angeles. Brad appears briefly at the beginning of the movie and Sofia appears briefly at the end. The film is controversial because it credits Eric Hufschmid, a Holocaust Denier, as introducing "Brad" to 9-11 Denial. In addition, Rick Siegel, maker of 9-11 Eyewitness, has threatened legal action against Sofia for using his footage in what he says is disinformation.
Her website is here. She is also the writer of a novel called The Shadow Man which is described as "Thelma and Louise without the gunfire.".
9/11 Mysteries is refuted here.
Webster G. Tarpley: Author and historian. Author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Has a site Tarpley.net.
Lyte Trip, AKA Craig Ranke, together with Merc co-founder of ”Citizen Investigation Team” and author of The Pentacon - a video that claims to show that the AA77 flight flew on a different path towards the Pentagon. Uses the forum of Pilots for 911 truth.
The Pentacon is discussed here, here and there is a brief, but to the point, debunk here.
Paul Joseph Watson and Steve Watson. Paul and Steve write most of the articles at Prisonplanet and Infowars. They also have another website, Jones Report and Paul has a site, Propaganda Matrix. See Alex Jones.
Judy D. Wood, a former professor of mechanical engineering. She's the main proponent of the ”Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)” - theory, that claims that secret Star Wars beam weapons took down the Twin Towers.
Dr Woods was questioned, by a truther no less, at the National Press club in Washington. It was filmed and posted here.
Barrie Zwicker, Canadian journalist who was one of the first to raise questions about the response of Bush and NORAD on 9/11. He has produced documentaries on the topic, including The Great Deception and The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw, which may have influenced UK MP Michael Meacher into speaking out about on 9/11 issues. 2006 saw the release of Zwicker's book Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11, but this was generally a compendium of other researchers work and added little new in itself.
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Who's who in the 911-truth movement?
Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, British author of The War on Freedom: How & Why America was Attacked, September 11, 2001, an early "inside job" book that would greatly influence others including David Ray Griffin. Expanded his material with The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism and added a British dimension with The London Bombings: An Independent Inquiry. Writes on a blog called The Cutting Edge.
Dylan Avery, Author of the Loose Change-video, which basically questions the different reports made about the 911 attacks. The project apparently started out as a work of fiction, but later Avery changed that to calling it a documentary. Is currently finishing the third version, called "Loose Change Final Cut". Has his own forum.
Loose Change is refuted here.
Robert Balsamo, AKA JDX – Pilots for 911 truth. Apparently a pilot who's online activity is centered around the analysis of the FDR, or ”black box”, of flight AA77 found at the Pentagon, where he claims its data disputes the official path. Author of the video ”Pandoras Black Box”. Has his own forum.
The FDR is explained here.
Kevin Barrett: University lecturer and a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Lectures about Islam.
Jason Bermas, researcher for the ”Loose Change” video – see Dylan Avery
Loose Change is refuted here.
Andreas von Bülow, german lawyer, writer and ex SPD politician. Wrote The CIA and September 11, in which he claims 911 was an inside job. Member of Scholars for 911 truth. Apparently he claims that WTC7 was the staging post for the entire attack and his theory is that the planes were remote controlled to fly into the Twin Towers, after which WTC7 was imploded to cover up the evidence.
James "Jim" Fetzer , a Ph.D in philosopy, heads the "Scholars for 9/11 truth". Has had a recent breakup with Steven E Jones, who left and formed his own site. The breakup centered around Fetzers and Jones different opinions regarding certain 911-theories, eg the "Starwars"-theory of Judy Wood, the "no planes"-theory and the alleged use of small thermonuclear devices at the Twin Towers. He also has his own personal site.
David Ray Griffin, a retired professor of theology and philosphy, author of ”The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9-11 ” and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. Has his own non-911 related homepage.
Gerard Holmgren, an Australian 9/11 researcher who had a significant influence on early "inside job" thinking. His support for more extreme views (the Naudet video was staged, the South tower impact videos are faked) have lead to Holmgren being eclipsed by others in recent years, though, and now he's best known for attacking everyone else (Steven Jones, Alex Jones, Jim Hoffman, more).
Eric Hufschmid, author of the ”Painful Deceptions”-video. Also active in Holocaust Revisionism.
There is a brief discussion about the links between Holocaust denial and 911-truthers here, and here.
Jim Hoffman, a software engineer, author of ”WTC 9/11 Demolition Analysis. Homepages include 911 review, 9-11 Research and WTC7.net.
Daniel Hopsicker, a journalist who suggests the Florida-based pilots were involved in drug-smuggling operations and that there was high-level Government knowledge. Also notable for claiming that Mohamed Atta used cocaine, drank, partied with strippers and more. Hopsicker supports this with interviews from Amanda Keller, someone he says was Atta's Florida girlfriend (although that's sometimes questioned, or even ridiculed, and she now denies it). Hopsicker gave his account in the book Welcome to Terrorland, and publishes more stories on his own site, The Mad Cow Morning News. He's criticised by some 9/11 researchers, though, for avoiding theories like controlled demolition.
Phil Jayhan, suggested along with Deborah Simon that photos of the plane that hit the South Tower showed it had a "pod" on the underside, that may have fired a missile at the tower immediately before impact. Also gave Dylan Avery some money in April 2005 to help with pressing DVDs of the first edition of Loose Change, although the two have since fallen out and are now feuding.
Alex Jones, talkshow host and head of Prisonplanet and Inforwars.com and Infowars.net. Has his own Myspace-area.
Steven E. Jones, retired Ph.D in physics who after a dispute with James Fetzer left co-founded Scholars for 911 Truth, to form his own, called "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice". Steven Jones is the authour of the ”Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?”-paper, where he argues that thermite were used to bring down the Twin Towers. After publishing his paper on his homepage at Brigham Young University, his employeer put him on paid leave to review his 911-work. During this period however Jones and the University agreed on him going into early retirement.
Merc AKA Aldo Marquis, together with Lyte Trip co-founder of ”Citizen Investigation Team” and author of The Pentacon - a video that claims to show that the AA77 flight flew on a different path towards the Pentagon. Uses the forum of Pilots for 911 truth.
This forums has deemed that The Pentacon basically needs no refutation. It refutes itself. However, it is discussed here, here and there is a brief, but to the point, debunk here.
Thierry Meyssan, french author and journalist who published 911 The Big Lie.
Mike Ruppert, former LAPD detective who runs the web site From the Wilderness, "a newsletter and website dedicated to investigating political cover-ups". His web articles and book Crossing the Rubicon popularised the idea that NORAD war games were key to the 9/11 "inside job", that "fake blips" inserted onto radar screens may have confused the FAA, that Dick Cheney was in charge of NORAD on 9/11, and more. Left the US in July 2006 complaining of harrassment, but still writes online at a Peak Oil Blog.
William Rodriguez, WTC janitor during the 9/11 attacks. Has made statements about explosions in the WTC basement. Filed a civil RICO lawsuit with two other people, directed against the government claiming a conspiracy on it's part. Tours lecturing about his WTC experiences and holds public speeches contradicting the 9/11 commission's account. Makes appearances with the truth movement crowd.
Korey Rowe, producer of the ”Loose Change” - video – see Dylan Avery
Loose Change is refuted here.
Kevin R. Ryan, an lab director at Environmental Health Laboratories Inc. wrote an open letter to NIST questioning their report. He claimed that his alleged employer Underwriter Laboratories had tested and certified the steel in the Twin Towers. The open letter which was published at Septembereleventh.org led to mr Ryans subsequent termination at EHL. The reason given was that he had expressed his own opinions as though they were the institutional opinions of Underwriter Laboratories. I believe that Ryan is the source for the "No way WTC Steel Could Melt At 2000 F" -claim that later gave path for "Only CD could account for molten steel at WTC".
Richard Siegel, author of 9-11 Eyewitness. Apparently he has had a fallout with other parts of the truther-community and seem to consider it a fraud. He has called out for all truther-leaders to take a lie detector test, to weed out all infiltrators. Siegel has his own forums, and blog.
”Sofia”, AKA Sofia Shafquat, author of the ”911 Mysteries”-video. She created and narrated the film 9-11 Mysteries Part 1: Demolitions with Brad Waddell. The film was based on a play that she and Brad performed in Los Angeles. Brad appears briefly at the beginning of the movie and Sofia appears briefly at the end. The film is controversial because it credits Eric Hufschmid, a Holocaust Denier, as introducing "Brad" to 9-11 Denial. In addition, Rick Siegel, maker of 9-11 Eyewitness, has threatened legal action against Sofia for using his footage in what he says is disinformation.
Her website is here. She is also the writer of a novel called The Shadow Man which is described as "Thelma and Louise without the gunfire.".
9/11 Mysteries is refuted here.
Webster G. Tarpley: Author and historian. Author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Has a site Tarpley.net.
Lyte Trip, AKA Craig Ranke, together with Merc co-founder of ”Citizen Investigation Team” and author of The Pentacon - a video that claims to show that the AA77 flight flew on a different path towards the Pentagon. Uses the forum of Pilots for 911 truth.
The Pentacon is discussed here, here and there is a brief, but to the point, debunk here.
Paul Joseph Watson and Steve Watson. Paul and Steve write most of the articles at Prisonplanet and Infowars. They also have another website, Jones Report and Paul has a site, Propaganda Matrix. See Alex Jones.
Judy D. Wood, a former professor of mechanical engineering. She's the main proponent of the ”Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)” - theory, that claims that secret Star Wars beam weapons took down the Twin Towers.
Dr Woods was questioned, by a truther no less, at the National Press club in Washington. It was filmed and posted here.
Barrie Zwicker, Canadian journalist who was one of the first to raise questions about the response of Bush and NORAD on 9/11. He has produced documentaries on the topic, including The Great Deception and The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw, which may have influenced UK MP Michael Meacher into speaking out about on 9/11 issues. 2006 saw the release of Zwicker's book Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11, but this was generally a compendium of other researchers work and added little new in itself.
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I like this one better:
pagan: also known as the "mighty pagan". The nemesis of the "debunkers". The slayer of the Gravy monster and the bringer of truth.
I once slayed a Gravy and Chips monster in the Clubs and Mingers fantasy role playing game.
It gave me enough XP to advance me to Level 3 Sleazy Warlock.
Does anybody else see the plot of a strangely twisted videogame emerging here?
Normal citizen turns vigilante after being framed for the murder of Dr. Wood. Suspecting someone else in the truth movement the vigilante tracks down all these different members of the truth movement (obviously some are lumped together - Alex Jones and the Watson brothers are the same level for example), and questions them (and occasionally is forced to fight).
Finally it gets down to the Avery/Bermas/Rowe 'final boss fight' and it's revealed that they are really disinfo agents who have been hynotised and are being paid to cover up a far more nefarious plot by the NWO.
Avery, Bermas and Rowe snap out of the trance they've been in when you defeat them, and the four of you face off against the real mastermind, the leader of the NWO:
Enough woo do you reckon?
Disclaimer: To all those CTers out there, understand that this is NOT meant to be a dig at you. It was just a funny idea I came up with when I saw a list of some of the most important names in the Truth Movement put together in the same place. No offence intended here!
Normal citizen turns vigilante after being framed for the murder of Dr. Wood. Suspecting someone else in the truth movement the vigilante tracks down all these different members of the truth movement (obviously some are lumped together - Alex Jones and the Watson brothers are the same level for example), and questions them (and occasionally is forced to fight).
Finally it gets down to the Avery/Bermas/Rowe 'final boss fight' and it's revealed that they are really disinfo agents who have been hynotised and are being paid to cover up a far more nefarious plot by the NWO.
Avery, Bermas and Rowe snap out of the trance they've been in when you defeat them, and the four of you face off against the real mastermind, the leader of the NWO:
Sylvia Browne!!!
Enough woo do you reckon?
Disclaimer: To all those CTers out there, understand that this is NOT meant to be a dig at you. It was just a funny idea I came up with when I saw a list of some of the most important names in the Truth Movement put together in the same place. No offence intended here!
Panoply_Prefect
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I've been a bit concerned about outing peoples name, if they haven't themselves made them publicly known. So I went a'googling to see if Lyte et. al who generally stays nym'ed have appeared under their real names themselves and, yes they have:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3653819/The_Jeff_Rense_Show_-_02_Apr_2007_-_Craig_Ranke_Aldo_Marquis_-_M
Thats a torrent with the apperance of the Pentacon guys on the Rense-show. Haven't heard it, but its enough for me to establish that both Craig and Ranke made their real names known themselves.
Sofia Shafsquat also seem open with her real name:
http://www.infowars.com/archives/2006/september/09-20-06.htm
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2423422/
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http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3653819/The_Jeff_Rense_Show_-_02_Apr_2007_-_Craig_Ranke_Aldo_Marquis_-_M
Thats a torrent with the apperance of the Pentacon guys on the Rense-show. Haven't heard it, but its enough for me to establish that both Craig and Ranke made their real names known themselves.
Sofia Shafsquat also seem open with her real name:
http://www.infowars.com/archives/2006/september/09-20-06.htm
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2423422/
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Panoply_Prefect
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Oh dear, yes I did forget about Killtown. He definatly should be on the list. Wasn't he the guy who spotted the devil and whathaveyounot in images of the Twin Towers?
I'll need to scout for relevant links though. I imagine this is his homepage?
http://www.geocities.com/killtown/
and/or this
http://killtown.911review.org/
His blog?
http://killtown.blogspot.com/
What is his main stance? Does he have one, or does he emrace them all?
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Paul Thompson, author of "The Terror Timeline"?
He probably deserves a mention. Of all the 9/11 Truthers (yes, I think he's a 9/11 Truther) he has been most recognised... for example he was asked to speak at a congressional briefing on the 9/11 Commission Report in 2005.
Ugh... apparently he lives in New Zealand now.
-Gumboot
He probably deserves a mention. Of all the 9/11 Truthers (yes, I think he's a 9/11 Truther) he has been most recognised... for example he was asked to speak at a congressional briefing on the 9/11 Commission Report in 2005.
Ugh... apparently he lives in New Zealand now.
-Gumboot
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Basically, no planes, everything was fake or planted.
Killtown is a no-planer.
He seems to spend a lot of his time focused on Shankesville. He accused Val McClatchey of faking her picture of the smoke plume from the crash. He sees conspiracies everywhere, even in places most CT nuts think are crazy. The faces in the smoke is just one example of his lunacy.
I know I said not to bother with this list, but I was just being a grumpy bugger that day.
OH and Lyte and Merc are Craig Ranke and Aldo Marquis.