Who's who in the 911-truth movement?

[JoeyDonuts]

Not even to send the June Google analytics through the roof?

 

[psikeyhackr]

How about Isaac Newton?

Didn't he say some things to the effect that in order to figure out what happens when mass A hits mass B you need to know the quantities of both masses.

Have any of those people in the Truth Movement figured that out? Richard Gage just knows how to hold up cardboard boxes.

psik

 

[Reheat]

Not even to send the June Google analytics through the roof?

Not unless you own stock in Google or you owe Randi a lot of $$!

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Not unless you own stock in Google or you owe Randi a lot of $$!

Interesting question is posed here. Is it possible to fail the MDC so utterly that you wind up owing the JREF money?

 

[Justin39640]

How about Isaac Newton?

Didn't he say some things to the effect that in order to figure out what happens when mass A hits mass B you need to know the quantities of both masses.

Have any of those people in the Truth Movement figured that out? Richard Gage just knows how to hold up cardboard boxes.

psik

When mass A hits mass B at 500 MPH
regardless of the size of either
carnage ensues

dont believe me?
shoot yourself in the foot

justn

 

[eromitlab]

I can still see a few fake names, but I ain't telling.

At least they they got rid of Mills M. Kay Mackey. Alex Floum likes to flog 911summary as his appeal to authority of choice (outside his own blog entries, of course) and they still have Mills because of his structural engineering cred.

 

[Reheat]

Interesting question is posed here. Is it possible to fail the MDC so utterly that you wind up owing the JREF money?

You need to remember that the EPA is watching and there is a surcharge for bandwidth pollution. It add ups quickly with he who shall not be named posting!

 

[Klimax]

You need to remember that the EPA is watching and there is a surcharge for bandwidth pollution. It add ups quickly with he who shall not be named posting!

You aren't talkin about spambogt U,are you.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

You aren't talkin about spambogt U,are you.

N'gahhh! That's twice now! He's like Candyman - invoke his name three times and he appears, still "waiting fro teh blieevurs to psot facts an edivence."

 

[Klimax]

N'gahhh! That's twice now! He's like Candyman - invoke his name three times and he appears, still "waiting fro teh blieevurs to psot facts an edivence."

hey I have there typo and anyway wasn't that Ultimate Uboat?

(Sorry,but I couldn't resist. You know even cyborgs are not immune to software error)

 

[ref]

Richard Gage, AIA is a San Francisco Bay Area-based architect who founded Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth in early 2007. Gage promotes controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings 1, 2, and 7 while professing agnosticism as to the guilty party. Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth claim to have 675 architectural and engineering professionals in its membership as of June 2009, although critics have countered that represents a tiny percentage of the total architects and engineers in the United States.

I would have to disagree a bit about his agnosticism as to the guilty party.

In his WTC 7 NIST Report conference call he calls 9/11 an inside operation and not an Al-Qaida operation, and says that 9/11 was a pretext for the invasion of two countries. Other (than WTC demolition) truther theories that he believes in include the NORAD stand down, put options and the PNAC document.

I would say it's pretty clear who he thinks is the guilty party.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

My god, this is an old thread. Perhaps its time to update the list.

 

[Dr Adequate]

My god, this is an old thread. Perhaps its time to update the list.

Please, go ahead.

It's immortalized in [swiki]9/11 Conspiracy Theorists[/swiki]. All updates gratefully received.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

Please, go ahead.

It's immortalized in [swiki]9/11 Conspiracy Theorists[/swiki].

I know m8 - I'm the artist formerly known as "SLOB".

 

[Juniversal]

The problem with 911 truthers and there leaders is that they seem to think they're leaders are infallible. Steven Jone's word is irrefutable even though he has shown his ineptitude when he doctors photo's to agree with his agenda, claims thermite can angle cut huge support beams, finds sulfur in the dust and jumps to the conclusion that it was a product of Thermate and (likely) found paints chips and deems them Nano-Thermite.

Then you have your Fetzers and Judy Woods who somehow mantain credibility when they conclude energy weapons were used in 9-11. The truth movement is truly a circus of ideas. No one theory is too outrageous or inane.

 

[Galileo]

I recently realised I dont have such a good grasp of the truther-movement as I thought I had, so I started compiling a Who's Who, and also trying to clarify their internal relationship. It would be great if you could help me fill out the list and also correct any errors.


Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, British author of The War on Freedom: How & Why America was Attacked, September 11, 2001, an early "inside job" book that would greatly influence others including David Ray Griffin. Expanded his material with The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism and added a British dimension with The London Bombings: An Independent Inquiry. Writes on a blog called The Cutting Edge.


Dylan Avery - the pioneer of the 911 movement. Author of the Loose Change-video. Is currently finishing the third version, called "Loose Change Final Cut". Has his own forum.


Robert Balsamo, AKA JDX – Pilots for 911 truth. Apparently a pilot who's online activity is centered around the analysis of the FDR, or ”black box”, of flight AA77 found at the Pentagon. Author of the video ”Pandoras Black Box”. Has his own forum.


Kevin Barrett: University lecturer and a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Lectures about Islam.


Jason Bermas, researcher for the ”Loose Change” video – see Dylan Avery


James "Jim" Fetzer , a Ph.D in philosopy, heads the "Scholars for 9/11 truth". Has had a recent breakup with Steven E Jones, who left and formed his own site. He also has his own personal site.


David Ray Griffin, a retired professor of theology and philosphy, author of ”The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9-11 ” and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. Has his own non-911 related homepage.


Gerard Holmgren, an Australian 9/11 researcher who had a significant influence on early "inside job" thinking. His support for more extreme views (the Naudet video was staged, the South tower impact videos are faked) have lead to Holmgren being eclipsed by others in recent years, though, and now he's best known for attacking everyone else (Steven Jones, Alex Jones, Jim Hoffman, more).


Eric Hufschmid, author of the ”Painful Deceptions”-video. Also active in Holocaust Revisionism.


Jim Hoffman, a software engineer, author of ”WTC 9/11 Demolition Analysis. Homepages include 911 review, 9-11 Research and WTC7.net.


Phil Jayhan, suggested along with Deborah Simon that photos of the plane that hit the South Tower showed it had a "pod" on the underside, that may have fired a missile at the tower immediately before impact. Also gave Dylan Avery some money in April 2005 to help with pressing DVDs of the first edition of Loose Change, although the two have since fallen out and are now feuding.


Alex Jones, talkshow host and head of Prisonplanet and Inforwars.com and Infowars.net. Has his own Myspace-area.


Steven E. Jones, retired Ph.D in physics who left Jim Fetzers site and formed his own called "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice". Steven Jones is the authour of the ”Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?”-paper, where he argues that thermite were used to bring down the Twin Towers.


Thierry Meyssan, french author and journalist who published 911 The Big Lie.


Mike Ruppert, former LAPD detective who runs the web site From the Wilderness, "a newsletter and website dedicated to investigating political cover-ups". His web articles and book Crossing the Rubicon popularised the idea that NORAD war games were key to the 9/11 "inside job", that "fake blips" inserted onto radar screens may have confused the FAA, that Dick Cheney was in charge of NORAD on 9/11, and more. Left the US in July 2006 complaining of harrassment, but still writes online at a Peak Oil Blog.


Korey Rowe, producer of the ”Loose Change” - video – see Dylan Avery


”Sofia”, Author of the ”911 Mysteries”-video. I think this is her site.


Webster G. Tarpley: Author and historian. Author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Has a site Tarpley.net.


Lyte Trip, co-founder of ”Citizen Investigation Team” and author of The Pentacon - a video that claims to show that the AA77 flight flew on a different path towards the Pentagon. Uses the forum of Pilots for 911 truth.


Paul Joseph Watson and Steve Watson. Paul and Steve write most of the articles at Prisonplanet and Infowars. They also have another website, Jones Report and Paul has a site, Propaganda Matrix. See Alex Jones.


Judy D. Wood, a former professor of mechanical engineering. She's the main proponent of the ”Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)” - theory, that claims that secret Star Wars beam weapons took down the Twin Towers.

Barrie Zwicker, Canadian journalist who was one of the first to raise questions about the response of Bush and NORAD on 9/11. He has produced documentaries on the topic, including The Great Deception and The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw, which may have influenced UK MP Michael Meacher into speaking out about on 9/11 issues. 2006 saw the release of Zwicker's book Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11, but this was generally a compendium of other researchers work and added little new in itself.

/S

Galileo - Brilliant Defender of 9/11 Truth.

 

[Galileo]

Apparantly Paul Thompson isn't his real name...

Here's Wikipedia's angle:



The website can be found here.

Paul Thompson, I think, has received so much attention because the CTer nature of his research doesn't come through unless you actually read the individual entries in his timeline. Journalists don't do that, obviously, and so see it as a piece of thorough research.

Having actually read every single entry myself, it's not so much a thorough piece of research as a regurgitation of every single erroneous or questionable media report regarding anything remotely relating to 9/11, totally ignoring surrounding context, retractions, or later follow ups of said reports, and sprinkled throughout with totally baseless and unsupported speculation.

It's people like Paul Thompson that pose a genuine threat to the truth of what happened on 9/11. No sane person takes no-plane or "evil smoke" claims seriously. But on the surface the Terror Timeline looks credible, thorough, objective, and accurate.

In reality it's none of those things.

As to what specific CTs his timeline implicates?

Try some of these entries:














And so forth...

Thompson seems to be courting virtually every single "mainstream" CT about 9/11, without solidly committing to any.

-Gumboot

Have you considered the possiblility that the news organizations that reported these news items are indeed conspiracy theorists as well?

 

[Dr Adequate]

Galileo - Brilliant Defender of 9/11 Truth.

Which one? There are so many 9/11 Truths I'm losing track.

In any case, unless you manage to fool someone other than yourself, you don't get on the list. Sorry.