Who's who in the 911-truth movement?

Paul Thompson’s speculations perhaps indicates he has not ruled out the possibility of an inside job; if so, I hope he never gets there. Instead, I think his speculations shows he has not come to any firm conclusions on these matters and is reserving judgement. In other words, he is being objective.
 
MaGZ said:
Paul Thompson’s speculations perhaps indicates he has not ruled out the possibility of an inside job; if so, I hope he never gets there. Instead, I think his speculations shows he has not come to any firm conclusions on these matters and is reserving judgement. In other words, he is being objective.
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Being objective does not mean forever reserving judgment. Nor does reserving judgment equal being objective.
 
Whose can spell?

I noticed the conspiracy wiki is strong on mis-spellings and slack on correct content. Siegel has filed against Shafquat for theft and editing into lies his video.

rfcexpress . com lawsuit.asp ? id=46083 take out the spaces and proof is in the pudding, just eat it.
 
I thought you were Rick Siegel? Are we wrong? You keep speaking of him in the 3rd person, so I am confused.

TAM:)
 
From http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

Rick Siegel Files Suit Against Sofia Shafquat

well, well, this one's been a long time coming, but it is a welcome development nonetheless that requires some explanation.

Rick Siegel filmed video of the collapses of the Twin Towers on 9-11 from across the Hudson in Hoboken, New Jersey. His footage is compelling and he had on his radio tuned to 1010 WINS (NY news radio station) at the same time to provide a soundtrack. The effect, quite plainly is a historical document of some significance.

Siegel's footage was used in the crackpot film 9-11 Eyewitness, apparently with permission and a rights' fee, although Siegel reportedly was not pleased with the final product. In late 2006, Sofia Shafquat released 9-11 Mysteries: Demolitions, which borrowed chunks of Siegel's footage apparently without permission or a rights' fee. Worse, Siegel discovered that Shaquat had edited his footage, erasing sounds and adding her own background noises in places. And of course there was the ridiculous mistake that Sofia made where she shows the "South Tower record" (times of supposed explosions just before the collapse), and then says "Then the building fell," and she shows the North Tower collapse.

There was a flurry of activity in 2007, and Siegel bumped 9-11 Mysteries off Google Video and YouTube for awhile for copyright infringement, while John Albanese managed to push Siegel's website offline for awhile. The dustup even reached the MSM, with the NY Post covering some of the antics on both sides.

Siegel himself is something of an enigma; IIRC he claims not to be a Truther himself but at the same time, he provided websites for the no-planer contingent, at least one of which is still standing (although it's basically a ghost town, with the last post in May of 2008).

I hadn't heard anything about this story in a long time, and given that 9-11 Mysteries and Sofia have pretty much vanished into the mists, I didn't expect any new developments. But apparently Siegel has gone ahead with his lawsuit.
 
Kinda shows how rapidly things change: Richard Gage was not mentioned in this thread at all (because it basically ended in June 2007).
 
True. Would anyone like to write a short summary of Richard Gage? I know it's hard to distill the true awesomeness of the man into a few paragraphs ...
 
Dr Adequate said:
True. Would anyone like to write a short summary of Richard Gage? I know it's hard to distill the true awesomeness of the man into a few paragraphs ...
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Not necessarily a short summary but this is sort of right to the point:
:crazy:
 
Richard Gage, AIA is a San Francisco Bay Area-based architect who founded Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth in early 2007. Gage promotes controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings 1, 2, and 7 while professing agnosticism as to the guilty party. Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth claim to have 675 architectural and engineering professionals in its membership as of June 2009, although critics have countered that represents a tiny percentage of the total architects and engineers in the United States.
 
Brainster said:
Richard Gage, AIA is a San Francisco Bay Area-based architect who founded Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth in early 2007. Gage promotes controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings 1, 2, and 7 while professing agnosticism as to the guilty party. Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth claim to have 675 architectural and engineering professionals in its membership as of June 2009, although critics have countered that represents a tiny percentage of the total architects and engineers in the United States.
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Does that number include the dozens of fake names entered by the JREF Ninja Gremlins when the site first opened?

TAM:)
 
Brainster said:
Richard Gage, AIA is a San Francisco Bay Area-based architect who founded Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth in early 2007. Gage promotes controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings 1, 2, and 7 while professing agnosticism as to the guilty party. Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth claim to have 675 architectural and engineering professionals in its membership as of June 2009, although critics have countered that represents a tiny percentage of the total architects and engineers in the United States.
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Is it too judgemental for an informational wiki to point out that the AE911T folks, as evidenced by their personal statements on their "roll call" page listing members, have stated old, disproven myths as being the impetus behind their joining? I mean, come on, cargo plane? Sounds of explosives? Free fall??

I'm not trying to put this here as a snide complaint about the myths themselves; I'm only asking if folks consider that legitimate information for the wiki.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Is it too judgemental for an informational wiki to point out that the AE911T folks, as evidenced by their personal statements on their "roll call" page listing members, have stated old, disproven myths as being the impetus behind their joining? I mean, come on, cargo plane? Sounds of explosives? Free fall??

I'm not trying to put this here as a snide complaint about the myths themselves; I'm only asking if folks consider that legitimate information for the wiki.
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The [swiki]9/11 Conspiracy Theorists[/swiki] page catalogs individuals. I'd be happy to start another page on the various sects within the Truth Movement if anyone would like to right them up.

Being judgmental is fine, so long as it's well-founded.
 
Dr Adequate said:
True. Would anyone like to write a short summary of Richard Gage? I know it's hard to distill the true awesomeness of the man into a few paragraphs ...
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He was so educated that his head fell faster than free fall.
 
Was Misner ever included in this list? Not sure how deserving he is for inclusion, given that the scope of his ongoing farce consists solely of forums that haven't banned him yet.
 
Joey, there is this old long standing tradition here at JREF that one does not mention names that should not ever be mentioned. If you violate that those who posses that name may appear. Lord, help us all, if you violate that again! :rolleyes:
 
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