Trump's Second Term

angrysoba said:
Russia benefits from the talk of the US grabbing Greenland, by force if necessary. It removes the taboo of their own grabbing of Ukraine. Putin even said in a speech that the idea of the US taking Greenland is a "serious" idea with a historical backing to it. This is already how we have seen Putin treats the idea of history being a justification for its land grab in Ukraine. And China in turn, which claims Taiwan as its own, will probably also be happy to see Trump and Putin removing the taboo around Taiwan. If Trump also has alienated his Asian allies such as Japan and South Korea, all the better.
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The small Baltic states will be at risk and Moldova will be quickly gone.
 
Hlafordlaes said:
I beg to differ. True to demonstrated form, Trump will capitulate to China entirely, at best ensuring that TSMC factories get blown up, if he is made aware and understands that threat. His style is capitulation to dictators to show he is a member of the big bad ruler club, one of the boys.
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He's a bully. Like all bullies he will punch down, but capitulate to anyone he perceives as a bigger bully. And, of course, when people stand up to him and call him to account he will whine about how badly he's being treated.
 
As of the close of the day on March 29, my positive/negative score on the Trump administration stands at -392.

29 March 2025
-1: Headline: JD Vance slams Denmark during visit to U.S. space base in Greenland (CBC)
-1: Headline: US orders French companies to comply with Trump's diversity ban (Reuters)
-1: Trump suggest he'll take Greenland by military force, if need be [118]

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118. Via NBC: The president on Saturday said he has "absolutely" had real conversations about annexing Greenland, which is currently a semi-autonomous Danish territory.
"We'll get Greenland. Yeah, 100%," Trump said.
He added that there's a "good possibility that we could do it without military force" but that "I don't take anything off the table."
 
angrysoba said:
The whole policy towards Greenland is incoherent.

Timothy Snyder pointed out that if the US wants Greenland for its own security against Russia then it would make no sense to be appeasing Russia in Ukraine and threatening to pull out of NATO when Ukraine and NATO are the two best defences against Russia in the first place. Denmark is a founder member of NATO!

Instead of slavering about all the minerals they could get from Greenland, they could have good trade relations with them and their other allies such as Canada, instead of slapping tariffs on them.

Oh, and there is of course the irony that the new shipping lanes that are opening up are a result of climate change, a change that Trump and his party have done as much as possible to deny is even happening.
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Yes, but that's looking at it like a grownup, switch your POV to that of a spoiled and emotionally retarded five year old and it'll fall into place.
 
angrysoba said:
Certainly if the US essentially decides not to help out, Japan is in serious trouble.

Trump recently asked why it is that if Japan gets attacked the US are supposed to help Japan, but Japan doesn't seem to have to help the US if it gets attacked.

Is it too much Donald Trump to have heard of World War Two and the way that the US actually wrote the constitution of Japan following its defeat to commit it to renouncing war and a military? Of course, as everyone knows, Japan DOES have a military, and one that has been growing in recent years to include an aircraft carrier for F-35s. But of course, now Japan is in a similar quandary to other countries that had assumed the US was an ally. What happens when they suddenly decide not to be?

They have recently been deepening ties with other East Asian countries such as South Korea (but of course there is some lingering hostility there), and South-East Asian countries such as Vietnam, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc... and there is Australia.

Ultimately, I think Japan may have to develop nuclear weapons. It almost certainly has all the components lying around that only have to be assembled. They have rockets, nuclear power stations and plenty of technologically advanced companies.
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He heard that Biden was going to start it, isn't that enough?
 
Dr.Sid said:
Indeed. He doesn't believe in coalitions. He has no plan to adhere to any contract, so he expects anyone else do the same.
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It must be horrible living in a (mental) world where every single relationship is transactional and limited to the the moment when one party sees an advantage to screwing over the other and you believe that every other person on the planet is dedicated to taking from you. If he wasn't, well Trump, I'd feel sorry for him.
 
turingtest said:
And if we acquire Greenland, whether it's for "national security" or for its resources, what then? All we've done is added to the nation we need to secure and the resources we need to defend, and the next step would seem to be to "need" Iceland to guard those, and...so on. Before you know it, "America First!" is "All the world is America!"
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For a lair under a volcano with molten hot MAGAma?
 
P.J. Denyer said:
It must be horrible living in a (mental) world where every single relationship is transactional and limited to the the moment when one party sees an advantage to screwing over the other and you believe that every other person on the planet is dedicated to taking from you. If he wasn't, well Trump, I'd feel sorry for him.
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As I said before, Trump and Musk don't wind me up that much because they are clearly damaged and defective people.

The people who annoy me are those who enable and lie for them. I cannot abide people who will not tell truth to power. These are the most dangerous people in the world.
 
bruto said:
We've had bases on Greenland forever. Whatever defensive value it has it likely already has. I think it's mostly about the minerals and about Trump's love of bullying people out of what is theirs with threats. It's basically a Dane-geld scheme, which he probably thinks he invented, being a stranger to both history and irony.
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Trump sees it as the same sort of property deal he's used to. Buy up the land, force out the 'sitting tenants' and redevelop it. See also Gaza.
 
Tuesday April 2nd is the big day, the day the tariffs go into effect. But news media is reporting even some of trump's allies are getting nervous.
President Donald Trump is describing this Wednesday, April 2 — the day his steep new tariffs are scheduled to go into effect, assuming he doesn't postpone them again — as "Liberation Day." But critics are saying that there is nothing liberating about a policy that is likely to cause severe inflation, harm both businesses and consumers, damage the United States' relations with Canada and Mexico (two longtime allies and trading partners), and lead to a recession. Alternet article link
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Severe inflation, a recession? Yeah that's the trump I know.
 
bruto said:
I note now that that ill-starred Signalgate debacle now has expanded, as it seems among those included in the public top-secret discussion was Joe Kent, a conspiracy nut, failed politician, and unconfirmed Trump nominee for a position. I also had not realized before that one of the other reasons the Signal app should be disqualified for this kind of work is that it deletes conversations when done, leaving no record.

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It can be set to that. It's not the default.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I hope the don't invite King Klown to the awards presentation either. I'm sure he won't come anyway because he might get clinically roasted by serious wordsmiths who known LOTS of words, and he will get angry when he doesn't understand what they are actually saying.
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◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, arsewipe, treasonous wannabe king, orange faced ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, cult* leader, and vile conman?


*Maybe a typo here
 
The Great Zaganza said:
If it is a Putin scheme, it's to undermine NATO and throw a wrench in US Arctic explotation through distraction
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Putin...who will live longer than Trump...is playing the long game. He has not destroyed NATO yet. He may want to interfere with congress more than the president next time. Make sure the remaining MAGA force has some power 2029.
 
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