True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[Pardalis]

True scientists look for connections, the CAUSE of the EFFECT. They use logic and reason and hope to find a truth thru experimentation via a theory that continually works.

So what's your theory? Does it actually work? Please show us.

False skeptics deny everything and stand for nothing but worship skepticism as they are afraid to back up anything and so stay in the safety zone of saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing but complainers and whiners.

You don't know a thing about skepticism. Please read a little.

http://www.randi.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/
http://www.criticalthinking.org/abou...finingCT.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_skepticism

Real skeptics discern truths and eventually make decisions on what they experience and see and read and determine. [...] Why because they know no laws, or have no standards [...] whining skeptics are not skeptics at all, just those without backbones who can not make decisions and are afraid to make a stand on anything

Now who is whining in bold letters?

and hence are afraid to connect up the mysteries of life.

What mysteries of life? You sound like a religious person.

Why, again because false skeptics are lazy and prefer to be on the sidelines and afraid to work and get real and have real experiences and achieve real individuality. Real skeptics do not need the support of anyone else, they will go it alone if need be.
[...]They hate connections, cause and effect. because they don't want to do the hard job of figuring out what caused what effect.

Have you read these BTW?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2330228&postcount=75
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/local_links.php?catid=18

Have you done your homework?

True skepticism is a thing of honour and courage, False skepticism and pretense is dishonourable and disgusting and shameful.

So it's shameful to stick with the facts and not accusing anyone of mass murder until solid proof is found?

True skeptics try to discern and figure out the truth behind those that CONSPIRE CONSPIRACIES against them and others.

Are you paranoid much?

Now please start doing some research and stop whining in bold letters because people don't agree with you. This is real life boy, live with it. Go out in the sun more.

 

[fuelair]

I shall respond once I get a response from the moderators ior instigators HERE...

Why are they in hiding ? Or who are the moderaters HERE. Are they the ones inciting the mob atmosphere ?


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Bob Kause wrote the following on POST # 499 on the 432 thread in Science and Math Board, I ask you is it an acceptable POSTING HERE, its in (( ...)) YES or NO ?

And then I responded with the following...

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Originally Posted by Bob Klase [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/helloworld/buttons/viewpost.gif[/qimg]
(( I hope no one here lives anywhere near DJJ. I really think that he may be the type of person that eventually turns to serial killing to get his message out. ))



I know you negative skeptics of follishness think you are being cute, but wacth what you say... and you better reign yourselfs in and even reign others in when they suggest that I would resort to serial kiling to get my message out. have you guys and gals no morals what soever. No respect, no lifes.

I say this not to all but only to that majority that would are increasing their foolish postings and allowing BOB to go even further... into suggesting that I would resort to serial killing to get my message out. And yet none of you barked at him or said enough is enough. You are definitely turnming into a mob, with a mob mentality. But I have reported Bob, and I have reported another fellow and notice he is no longer making his attempts to wreck this thread and others.

Why are most of you soo foolish ? Is it athieism that has so emboldened you to be like this. You aren't being true skeptics showing reason and logic and sicernment.

You're surely not what JFR forums is about.

Some are at least trying occassionally to show respect and some are helping with the research and asking good questions, but the majority are just getting worse and worse and worse.

I try to ignore you... but saying I would resort to serial killing is way out of control.

If you had any discency any morals, any courage you would have blasted Bob Klase for his comments. or are you just hear to wreck the thread and hear yourselves babble. Not all of you but most of you, and you do know who you are.

I guarantee I am not here from the moderators. My agenda is purely my own - and when I say what I say, it is because I believe it. When I give alternatives it is because I am not sure which of a group of items is correct.
I have already stated my alternatives re:your posts and I have no problem with the responses you have been given since your posts are error ridden, untestable (for opinions) and illogical and you keep repeating them over and over as if that would make them real/true. Your posts offer no value (except that of laughter/amusement as one other on the site stated.) to anyone but you and, if I accepted them as actually Xtian, would drive me as far from other xtians as I could get. Basically, you are not necessary or functional.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

If you mean the Illuminati and their lk, YES..... that's a no brainer, but some don't want to know as it hurts their egos that they are not in control

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

 

[CurtC]

If you mean the Illuminati and their lk, YES..... that's a no brainer, but some don't want to know as it hurts their egos that they are not in control

???

Who are you talking to?

 

[prewitt81]

If you mean the Illuminati and their lk, YES..... that's a no brainer, but some don't want to know as it hurts their egos that they are not in control

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Nope.

 

[hellaeon]

Goodaye DJJ.

Your wrong, assumptive and sit in a position of conveinience over fact when it comes to science.

Cheers.

 

[Paulhoff]

I guess according to DJJ in order to be a skeptic. I have to drop something to see if it falls every morning before I get out of bed to see if gravity still works.

Paul

 

[Foster Zygote]

Djj, could you tell us how far away the moon is?

 

[Paulhoff]

Djj, could you tell us how far away the moon is?

I know that you're not looking for a true answer.

Paul

 

[Athyrio]

Djj, could you tell us how far away the moon is?

If you go to his Delphi Forum site, it's still 216,000 miles. He's moved his 432 and Phi stuff to a board he hosts. More control over the rabble that way, you know.

 

[jsfisher]

DJJ,

Are you ever going to come down from the pulpit to just talk and discuss things? Or do you enjoy too much preaching hell and damnation to all those snoring in the back pews?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ - What's your point?

Are you saying that we aren't real skeptics?

Moby, when you use the word WE, you are missing it because individuals find truths rather than whole groups. Real skeptics have to find out things for themselves, they do not run in packs or put faith in their whole group, for that is what churchies do as they hope and pray that their group makes it, for personnally they just don't have FAITH, and hence try to ride the coat tails of others or a supposed master chosen race.

The real skeptics in a conspiracy board are those that don;t believe the lies of the government, military, politicians and those created to pass out misinformation.

And so MOBY, there are some true skeptics HERE because they search out truths and want truths and yet the false skeptics are saying BELIEVE the words of 9/11, believe the Warren report, believe us politicans are honest, believe the war in Afghanistan Iraq and Iran is to bring freedom to those countries.

But the real motivation for these acts is there for any true skeptic to find out, which means there are two types of skeptics, one true and one false...and so if you are in a group, Moby, and don't discern each and every so called informational INPUT, you are in danger of getting mislead.

But if you are a true believer in the system and suck up what ever they tell you, so be it. true skeptics won;t be able to dissuade you from your first love. But I dont know your alignment yet Moby, so shant say where you are coming from. we shall see.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ,

Are you ever going to come down from the pulpit to just talk and discuss things? Or do you enjoy too much preaching hell and damnation to all those snoring in the back pews?

Nah, I hate the system and the world because I hate lying and oppression and control. I prefer love not war, and so if you call that preaching I would call it teaching and opposition to the conspiracies that do bind and destroy and kill. In this board, we are not talking theories but actual vile acts of war and murder.

But if you are a believer in this world and love its governemtns, so be it. your choice. true skeptics shall not be able to change your mind.

You would have to seek and search out truths yourself.. JFisher

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I guess according to DJJ in order to be a skeptic. I have to drop something to see if it falls every morning before I get out of bed to see if gravity still works.

Paul

No Paul you have to get real and have real standards rather than thinking negative skpticism is the way to run your life. You have to have some values and stand on them and behind them, or every morning you will be in limbo as was your response HERE.

Learn to discern truths from lies, and establish principles. Gravity is something you should have realized yesterday, rather than when you roll over and fall off the bed.

 

[Pardalis]

What governments do you accept David, has there been any that was to your liking?

Is skepticism, in your mind, necessarily linked to politics?

What about science?

 

[beachnut]

No Paul you have to get real and have real standards rather than thinking negative skpticism is the way to run your life. You have to have some values and stand on them and behind them, or every morning you will be in limbo as was your response HERE.

Learn to discern truths from lies, and establish principles. Gravity is something you should have realized yesterday, rather than when you roll over and fall off the bed.

Yes Paul be real and yes not fake. No negative stuff. Oops did I say no? I meant yes no negative stuff. DARN, I did the no after the yes again. I mean negative skepticism is not the way. DARN, does that mean positive skepticism is good and negative skepticism means the skepticism is positive and not skepticism any more?

Is negative skpticism is really positivism, It is true a negative skpticism is positivism the opposite of negative skpticism. Of course you could have negative skepticism which is not skepticism at all but the absence of skepticish I believe. I would be more positive but I have no clue what negative skepticism is. I could not find it in the dictionary.

But truth is good, and lies are bad! Good job on this one. Therefore we need to point out that LC is a lie and the truth is not found in a LC video. What principles would you establish after you discern truth from lies; and why do we have to discern truth from lies; are the all mixed up somewhere?

What is the gravity of the truth or lies and how would that integrate into established principles this is the key before you roll over and kick someone out of bed? I say what ever this negative skpticism is, it needs to be discerned for truths or lies before you establish a state of positivism to negate the negative skpticism. After that you should attack the skepticism that remains due to the gravity of the situation.

 

[beachnut]

Moby, when you use the word WE, you are missing it because individuals find truths rather than whole groups. Real skeptics have to find out things for themselves, they do not run in packs or put faith in their whole group, for that is what churchies do as they hope and pray that their group makes it, for personnally they just don't have FAITH, and hence try to ride the coat tails of others or a supposed master chosen race.

Moby no group could find truth together that is cheating. Bad Moby! I mean good bad Moby, no we just you. You can not use each other to be smarter, no group effort here, that is cheating. No coattails anymore you slugs! I have found a group is not very good working together cause they can solve problems and work together to make things happen and can split up work and solve major problems like getting to the moon or building an atom bomb for the first time. AS you know one of those projects was bad and one was fake! But only in your world of right and wrong and BS.

See groups are bad. The dumb individual is best. Groups, especially diverse groups could lead to a master race thing. WAIT, no who is the idiot who said this crap? Diverse groups are the anit-master race junk. Without groups major projects and systems would fail.

The real skeptics in a conspiracy board are those that don;t believe the lies of the government, military, politicians and those created to pass out misinformation.

Does anyone here believe lies? NO, so what are you talking about? NEXT!

And so MOBY, there are some true skeptics HERE because they search out truths and want truths and yet the false skeptics are saying BELIEVE the words of 9/11, believe the Warren report, believe us politicans are honest, believe the war in Afghanistan Iraq and Iran is to bring freedom to those countries.

No true skeptics here! You are always wrong so what you say is wrong. There was no Warren report you have the wrong CT. Wrong again. Ask a Kurd about the war. Oops, wrong again. At least not right or wrong. You sure are a right or wrong guy in a not so right or wrong world.

But the real motivation for these acts is there for any true skeptic to find out, which means there are two types of skeptics, one true and one false...and so if you are in a group, Moby, and don't discern each and every so called informational INPUT, you are in danger of getting mislead.

No Moby is an individual who decides for himself and I bet he works in groups because groups are needed for certain great achievements, and Moby could be the one who leads the group and takes inputs from the group to win! No true and false skeptic have many other facets; you are wrong again. Why are you always wrong. What acts are you talking about?

But if you are a true believer in the system and suck up what ever they tell you, so be it. true skeptics won;t be able to dissuade you from your first love. But I dont know your alignment yet Moby, so shant say where you are coming from. we shall see.

What a bunch of BS. You could get a degree for this junk, it would be BS in BS, and you can buy it online. If you need that URL just ask.

 

[twinstead]

Learn to discern truths from lies, and establish principles. Gravity is something you should have realized yesterday, rather than when you roll over and fall off the bed.

We have principles, we can very often discern truths from lies, and we know when somebody is full of crap.

We also know that sometimes those who are full of crap are completely oblivious to that fact, so we can only take solace in the fact that everybody listening to them also knows they are full of crap.

We can then take heart that those who are full of crap eventually grow up, start living in the real world, and realize that the world is more complicated than they ever imagined. And, then realize that they were indeed full of crap.

Or something like that.

 

[I Am He]

Davidjayjorden opened his mouth and said..................................Then he said............................... But his reply was real interesting when he said .......................... Nice going there Davey boy, I'll certainly keep in mind what you didn't say.

 

[JonnyFive]

Is negative skpticism is really positivism, It is true a negative skpticism is positivism the opposite of negative skpticism. Of course you could have negative skepticism which is not skepticism at all but the absence of skepticish I believe. I would be more positive but I have no clue what negative skepticism is. I could not find it in the dictionary.

So you're saying that internal affairs knew about the crooked cops all along?