True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[Davidjayjordan]

With the gaining of wisdom with age, we are suppose to learn there are lies being taught us and deceptions being made to try and control us. And yet with age and experience, we are suppose to learn to see thru the smoke screens to get at sufficient truths to carry on and be positive..... and even help others see the conspiracies and lies of life.

This is true skepticism in my opinion. Not believeing what the world, the rich, the powerful, tell us to believe.... nor what the education systems, the religious systems and the military juggernaut tells us to believe. For these lies are sent out to deceive us and indoctrinate into us as lambs to the slaughter.

True skeptics know and have studied that there are conspiracies. They do not judge a matter before discerning the truths from the lies. They decide and have a background of discernment so they don't just label all incoming information as lies, but systematically and painstaking DISCERN truth from lies and half lies.

They do not want to be spoon fed, but take the responsibility for what they believe and act on. For life for them, is not a word game but much more serious than that .... especially when it comes to serious topics like war and death.

True skeptics study and research and establish principles for further discernment. They have principles and morals rather than just negating and denying everything. They are usualyu condemned by the worldly systems as negative, when in fact they are looking for the positive by denying the lies and the negativity that those lies cause.

Don't you agree or do you think there are no truths and we should believe the lies of the government, military, education and church without question and just follow and be good worldly citizens and church goers and new military recruits ?

 

[Pardalis]

Got anything specific?

 

[WildCat]

With the gaining of wisdom with age, we are suppose to learn there are lies being taught us and deceptions being made to try and control us.

So you quickly recognized that the troof movement is nothing but lies, right?

If it's the other way around (as if I don't know...), can you point out one single error in the NIST reports or the 9/11 Commission report? No troofer has been able to do so to date, perhaps you'll be the first?

 

[Timble]

The thing is to question everything, but don't assume that someone is lying just because what you tell you doesn't fit in with your theories.

Especially question those people who think they've some insight to the TRUTH and know what's going on..

 

[JamesB]

But conspiracy theorists aren't skeptics, they will believe just about anything you tell them if it fits their theories, no matter how silly. Just Google the name "Lauro Chavez". True skeptics rigorously fact check and challenge sources, no true skeptic would hold up Judy Wood or Jim Fetzer as an authority figure. No true skeptic would claim the World Center was demolished simply because "it looked like a demolition".

 

[Davidjayjordan]

The thing is to question everything, but don't assume that someone is lying just because what you tell you doesn't fit in with your theories.

Especially question those people who think they've some insight to the TRUTH and know what's going on..

Yes be open minded, SEEK to FIND, search and then REsearch, experience try out, just don't accept everything that is spoon fed us by those with an agenda and controling interest. Don't be naive, as innocence isn't always bliss, knowledge protects us and the only way to discern lies is to establish some truths and consistency in your mind and heart...so the anti-conspiracists don't destroy them and our bodies. For they are into control at the higher levels while many of the goyim below believe the greatest lie of all, that they are free.

 

[twinstead]

It's almost as if the troothers think NIST just whispered in our ears their findings with a sly smile and a twinkle in their eyes and we took their word for it with glazed-over faces.

It's almost as if the huge, minutely detailed report studied world-wide by experts doesn't exist.

 

[twinstead]

Yes be open minded, SEEK to FIND, search and then REsearch, experience try out, just don't accept everything that is spoon fed us by those with an agenda and controling interest. Don't be naive, as innocence isn't always bliss, knowledge protects us and the only way to discern lies is to establish some truths and consistency in your mind and heart...so the anti-conspiracists don't destroy them and our bodies. For they are into control at the higher levels while many of the goyim below believe the greatest lie of all, that they are free.

Dude. Seriously. I think you have seen too many movies.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

But conspiracy theorists aren't skeptics, they will believe just about anything you tell them if it fits their theories, no matter how silly. Just Google the name "Lauro Chavez". True skeptics rigorously fact check and challenge sources, no true skeptic would hold up Judy Wood or Jim Fetzer as an authority figure. No true skeptic would claim the World Center was demolished simply because "it looked like a demolition".

True skeptics and real individuals would never work for the British intelligence nor use a gun for nationalistic greeds and interests, nor be into defending the so-called free West from the so called Evil east...as James Bond movies portrayed.

They might have some of the same qualities of intelligence, sexiness and courage james showed but they would never ever work in british intelligence or the CIA etc....... for then they would become mere slaves of nationalism and patriotism and be truly brain dead and heartless.

 

[WildCat]

True skeptics and real individuals would never work for the British intelligence nor use a gun for nationalistic greeds and interests, nor be into defending the so-called free West from the so called Evil east...as James Bond movies portrayed.

They might have some of the same qualities of intelligence, sexiness and courage james showed but they would never ever work in british intelligence or the CIA etc....... for then they would become mere slaves of nationalism and patriotism and be truly brain dead and heartless.

"No True Scotsman" fallacy.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Dude. Seriously. I think you have seen too many movies.

Dude, I think you have had too many beers, as it seems to have killed your brain cells.. And even drawing happy faces on your next draft won;t bring you automatic intelligence, as you will be left with a huge hangover eventually because you never got serious and the wool was pulled over your eyes in your drunken state.

 

[WildCat]

Davidjayjordan, can you point out one single error in the NIST reports or the 9/11 Commission report? No troofer has been able to do so to date, perhaps you'll be the first?

 

[Timble]

James Bond is fiction, a fantasy extension of the personality of his author, who actually worked in military intellegence in WWII.

Lousy example.

 

[stilicho]

The only thing missing from these posts is the word 'sheeple'.

David Ray Griffin is a theologian, Steve Jones is (was?) a physicist dabbling in the alchemy of 'cold fusion', and Mike Ruppert was a narcotics officer in LA. What makes any of them better informed than Reuters or the Washington Post?

Mainstream media exposed the fraud of the 'yellow cake' from Niger and the American Vice President shooting his friend in the face. Not Prison Planet or Jeff Rense. (I guess those days they were out hunting bigfoot). But mainstream media (as though it's one monolithic enterprise) is concealing the biggest Pulitzer story in history? Explain. Show your work.

 

[uk_dave]

Dude, I think you have had too many beers, as it seems to have killed your brain cells.. And even drawing happy faces on your next draft won;t bring you automatic intelligence, as you will be left with a huge hangover eventually because you never got serious and the wool was pulled over your eyes in your drunken state.

Who the hell are you? Buddha?

 

[Pardalis]

Dude, I think you have had too many beers...

Besides criticizing people's avatars, do you have anything specific you'd like to discuss?

 

[Oliver]

*LOL* Twoofers are the real skeptics?

Well, like many people in here i was an ex-twoofer.
Sorry, but i'm even more sceptic than the truthers.

Thank you for clearing this up.

 

[Pardalis]

Oliver, you really know how to light up a thread!

 

[gnome]

I don't believe there are any "true skeptics"... skepticism isn't a title to achieve, after which you are accepted as an authority. It's something people DO and USE--some more often than others, some with more skill, some with more tact, some with a good deal of panache. Not always the same people either.

And I bet even the most skeptical people catch themselves in non-skeptical behavior now and then, I know I do.

P.S. as for criticizing avatars, Timble, yours is far too distracting. But please don't change it .

 

[A W Smith]

With the gaining of wisdom with age,

that would be me

we are suppose to learn there are lies being taught us and deceptions being made to try and control us.

That would be by Jones, Fetzer, Avery, Bermas, Wood and their ilk.

And yet with age and experience, we are suppose to learn to see Through the smoke screens to get at sufficient truths to carry on and be positive..... and even help others see the conspiracies and lies of life.

Correct, thats what we do here

This is true skepticism in my opinion.

now your learning child

Not believing what the world, the rich, the powerful, tell us to believe....

no one tells us what to believe. We investigate the evidence and do our own research and are careful not to make judgments based on incredulity

nor what the education systems, the religious systems and the military juggernaut tells us to believe. For these lies are sent out to deceive us and indoctrinate into us as lambs to the slaughter.

true Jones and others can be loosely classified as en education system for the low intellect. yes what they do is indoctrinate you and theres the whole militant black shirt Nazi mindset complete with physical threats

True skeptics know and have studied that there are conspiracies.

yes the ones making money off 9-11 we are well aware of that we just don't have the financial documents. yet.

They do not judge a matter before discerning the truths from the lies. They decide and have a background of discernment so they don't just label all incoming information as lies,

yes like the low intellect 911 conspiracy mongers who refuse to read the NIST reports and the commission reports and dismiss them

but systematically and painstaking DISCERN truth from lies and half lies.

They do not want to be spoon fed, but take the responsibility for what they believe and act on. For life for them, is not a word game

Louder than words I see.

but much more serious than that .... especially when it comes to serious topics like war and death.

True skeptics study and research and establish principles for further discernment. They have principles and morals rather than just negating and denying everything. They are usualyu condemned by the worldly systems as negative, when in fact they are looking for the positive by denying the lies and the negativity that those lies cause.

yes the pissing on the graves by Avery and the like kind of upsets us. Also calling firemen liars like bermas does cant help.

Don't you agree or do you think there are no truths and we should believe the lies of the trooth movement, para military, Jones education and 911 church without question and just follow and be good worldly citizens and church goers and new military recruits ?

As long as we base our beliefs of cold hard evidence and facts and read scientific documentation we should never worry about falling into a cult of disinformation, fear, conspiracy. threats, etc.