True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[knot]

False skeptics: must mean those who make up lies about 9/11, such as beam weapons were used to destroy the WTC; or flight 77 did not hit the pentagon. Those who tell these lies could be called False skeptics, because they refuse to understand facts and evidence and instead make up stuff and tell lies.

Those who debunk the liars from the 9/11 truth movement, are not "true skeptics", they are people who use facts. Not sure what a true skeptic would be since the 9/11 truth movement has no facts to back up the lies they tell why would you need to be a skeptic since it is too easy to see they are telling lies? Therefore you do not have to be a skeptic to see through the lies told by conspiracy theorist on 9/11.

To repeat, the topic statement is false. Conspiracy theorist on 9/11 are just fact less people trying to mislead other. That makes them liars. I mean saying a beam weapon brought down the WTC is a lie. Saying flight 93 was shot down is a lie. Saying flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon is a lie. How many lies does it take to prove the 9/11 truth movement is built on lies told by people with no facts?

I have presented some lies from the truth movement to show the Conspiracy theorist on 9/11 are just people trying to tell lies about 9/11.

Agreed. In my countless dialogs I have found them all to be liberals. Why and how they can come up with this stuff is beyond me. Making stuff up is.........nuts.

Just for the record, I am not a neo-con but an independent - I mean centrist.

 

[Slayhamlet]

Agreed. In my countless dialogs I have found them all to be liberals. Why and how they can come up with this stuff is beyond me. Making stuff up is.........nuts.

Just for the record, I am not a neo-con but an independent - I mean centrist.

I'd say the majority of 9/11 woo's are far Left, but there is still a sizable portion of them that are far Right edging towards neoNazism. That's why I always get such a kick out of troofers calling us the Nazis while their buddies go around denying the Holocaust.

 

[knot]

I'd say the majority of 9/11 woo's are far Left, but there is still a sizable portion of them that are far Right edging towards neoNazism. That's why I always get such a kick out of troofers calling us the Nazis while their buddies go around denying the Holocaust.

You know somewhere along the line, the socialists meet the communists and it's no longer a right-left but a full circle.

 

[yodaluver28]

Agreed. In my countless dialogs I have found them all to be liberals. Why and how they can come up with this stuff is beyond me. Making stuff up is.........nuts.

Just for the record, I am not a neo-con but an independent - I mean centrist.

Very few CTers are true liberals in my experience. Many of the 9-11/War on Terror CTers are leftists to be sure but not liberals in the political mainstream. Some of the most hard-core CT's are far right wingers but not people I would ever label as conservatives in any classical sense. People on the political fringes have always gravitated towards CTism in order to rationalize why most people disagree with their bizarre, extremist philosophies and politics. In the CT universe, the vastness of the conspiracies and sheer numbers of those that would need to be involved to maintain them have brought CTers of all political stripes together into worshiping a militant and irrational form of not just political but scientific and philosophical anarchy where anyone can proclaim themselves an expert on anything and facts are just pesky details that can be interpreted to say whatever fits your worldview.

 

[Mr.D]

DJJ,

Has "the government" ever told the truth? About anything? At any time?

 

[knot]

Very few CTers are true liberals in my experience. Many of the 9-11/War on Terror CTers are leftists to be sure but not liberals in the political mainstream. Some of the most hard-core CT's are far right wingers but not people I would ever label as conservatives in any classical sense. People on the political fringes have always gravitated towards CTism in order to rationalize why most people disagree with their bizarre, extremist philosophies and politics. In the CT universe, the vastness of the conspiracies and sheer numbers of those that would need to be involved to maintain them have brought CTers of all political stripes together into worshiping a militant and irrational form of not just political but scientific and philosophical anarchy where anyone can proclaim themselves an expert on anything and facts are just pesky details that can be interpreted to say whatever fits your worldview.

You're correct. However, they do and/or I do identify them as liberals, alarmists, leftists, democrats. blame America, and/or pacifists.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ,

Has "the government" ever told the truth? About anything? At any time?

Almost every liar throws in some truths to try to give themselves credibility. The lasy don;t want to loook for truths and prefer tio just take what they are spoon fed for consumption. They love their countries and their wars and their need for greed by taking from others. Therefore it is easier for them to just accept whatever their governments tell them are the excuses for the wars they enter into.

Its called double speak, War means freedom, slavery means liberation, regime change for progress, democracy ...

Thanks for asking this question D, although surely you didn;t want the answer

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Dear anti=truthers, you do realise of course, that your words and excuses are EXACTLY the same as the 'churchies'. Fior they also blame everything on the liberals, as if conspiracies are forgeries against their beloved governments. For they have been taught by their high priests to obey their governments without question, for the government is their god and their lifestyle is their god.

So do understand this, that you and they are ONE and in exactly the same boat. They twist scriptures to validate that they must believe their governments lies but what foundation do you anti-conspiracy theorists have.

For you like them are groupies. I realise I everytime I write this, it gets deleted but it must be said. Anti-conspiracy theorists are not individual but group[ies, whose group makes sure that they all say the same thing. How sad, but churchies will be churchies, regardless of their church affliation. Anti-conspiracy theorists organize into churches, so they can worship and follow blindly their governments. How very very sad, but how true.

yetI shouldIts interesting to hear from you

 

[Civilized Worm]

I would also be interested to hear from a yeti.

 

[twinstead]

I would also be interested to hear from a yeti.

Well, let's see if I can rustle up my first wife's phone number....

 

[JonnyFive]

Dear anti=truthers, you do realise of course, that your words and excuses are EXACTLY the same as the 'churchies'. Fior they also blame everything on the liberals, as if conspiracies are forgeries against their beloved governments. For they have been taught by their high priests to obey their governments without question, for the government is their god and their lifestyle is their god.

How is that any different from you railing against "false skeptics," claiming the government is automatically evil, and assuming there is some inherent validity to conspiracy theories?

Automatic contention is no more noble than automatic obedience.

Perhaps somewhat ironically, I am reminded of a quote from the Bible: "Physician, heal thyself."

 

[gumboot]

Well, let's see if I can rustle up my first wife's phone number....

You're lucky I had swallowed my mouthful before I read this.

-Gumboot

 

[Foster Zygote]

You are not looking for answers, you are looking for affirmation. Please stop the charade.

I agree. Djj has found many answers that did not affirm his beliefs and he has completely ignored them. In fact, he refuses to even discuss them.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Dear anti=truthers, you do realise of course, that your words and excuses are EXACTLY the same as the 'churchies'. Fior they also blame everything on the liberals, as if conspiracies are forgeries against their beloved governments. For they have been taught by their high priests to obey their governments without question, for the government is their god and their lifestyle is their god.

So do understand this, that you and they are ONE and in exactly the same boat. They twist scriptures to validate that they must believe their governments lies but what foundation do you anti-conspiracy theorists have.

For you like them are groupies. I realise I everytime I write this, it gets deleted but it must be said. Anti-conspiracy theorists are not individual but group[ies, whose group makes sure that they all say the same thing. How sad, but churchies will be churchies, regardless of their church affliation. Anti-conspiracy theorists organize into churches, so they can worship and follow blindly their governments. How very very sad, but how true.

yetI shouldIts interesting to hear from you

How can we even begin to consider what you've written to be valid when you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge even one of the many fundamental errors in your various claims? So far, all of your claims have been shown to have some objective flaw that negates the whole equation.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

How is that any different from you railing against "false skeptics," claiming the government is automatically evil, and assuming there is some inherent validity to conspiracy theories?

Automatic contention is no more noble than automatic obedience.

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Once you have been a round the block a few times, you learn human nature, and that the rich and the powerful are always bullies and don;t want to give up their riches nor their power.

But if anti-conspiracy theorists have not been around the block, what can we do. They are naive and gullible and fodder for their governments manipulation.

 

[beachnut]

Once you have been a round the block a few times, you learn human nature, and that the rich and the powerful are always bullies and don;t want to give up their riches nor their power.

But if anti-conspiracy theorists have not been around the block, what can we do. They are naive and gullible and fodder for their governments manipulation.

Wrong again, the truthers are the naive and gullible who fall for the lies of the 9/11 liars who hide behind a name of "truth". Most foul are those who call them selves "truth" and tell such unfounded lies.

 

[Mr.D]

Almost every liar throws in some truths to try to give themselves credibility. The lasy don;t want to loook for truths and prefer tio just take what they are spoon fed for consumption. They love their countries and their wars and their need for greed by taking from others. Therefore it is easier for them to just accept whatever their governments tell them are the excuses for the wars they enter into.

Its called double speak, War means freedom, slavery means liberation, regime change for progress, democracy ...

Thanks for asking this question D, although surely you didn;t want the answer

So DJJ,

Have you ever told a lie under any circumstances for any reasons whatsoever?

 

[JonnyFive]

Once you have been a round the block a few times, you learn human nature, and that the rich and the powerful are always bullies and don;t want to give up their riches nor their power.

But if anti-conspiracy theorists have not been around the block, what can we do. They are naive and gullible and fodder for their governments manipulation.

For someone claiming to be so worldly, you certainly appear to have a naive and overly generalistic view of humanity. Why is it that you believe you can peg everyone into so few holes, anyway?

But you didn't answer my question: How is your blind, naive, simplistic automatic distrust of everything "false skeptic" or "government" any different than the automatic obedience to the government you are ascribing to the "false skeptics" you see here?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I repeat if any non truther KNEW human nature and has been around the block more than once, they would know from EXPERIENCE that the rich and powerful do not willingly tell the truth or share their riches, or share their power.

Human nature is just not that way.

I repeat, human nature, simple scommon sense and simple experiences in the real world, will tell you that what you are being told by the rich and powerful and born again politicians is just not always the case. Or as the CIA agents tell us, what you think is not what really IS. The way to stay in power is to control thinking and rich and powerful do that easily, and yet the dumb think they are running things and that their governments love them and are benign.

Take a walk or run around the block, guys and gals, and get real and get educated rather than being sooooo naive.

 

[Civilized Worm]

the rich and the powerful are always bullies and don;t want to give up their riches nor their power.

Agreed. I fail to see how that proves that 9/11 was an inside job though.