True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[twinstead]

Once, just ONCE I'd like a poster like Davidjayjordan to actually stay around for a while and DEFEND HIS POSITION.

We are NOT sheep blindly trusting what 'the Man' tells us. And we are certainly not sheep blindly trusting what Davidjayjordan tell us.

Who exactly is telling you what to believe, Davidjayjordan?

 

[Thunder]

I am skeptical of many things that george bush says...but that doesn't mean that i disregard 100% of his statemants. some things he says are true...some is false...and some is in that grey area of "governmant intelligence"

but to believe that everything out of his mouth..or out of the mouth of governmant is a lie...is not being skeptic...its being an extremist...in a black and white world.

the world..and truth..is not black and white...there are many shades of grey.

 

[T.A.M.]

I can't really blame them. We are quite good at what we do here, and they know it. They try to come in here, get their point out, and then run...

Still, you are right, it would be nice to actually have a debate with them, rather than just tear strips off their pathetic arguments.

TAM

 

[MarkyX]

It really makes me wonder what is wrong with these morons. What do they think they can accomplish?

We know their tactics, their openings, and how they operate. We already know what they are going to say before they begin the first letter on their keyboard.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Man... I should've known better when I saw the beaded curtain leading into this thread. The cloud of, umm... "incense"... wafting from it should've been a major sign, too...

 

[T.A.M.]

Indeed, It usually starts with the "Mark of Woo"(c)

TAM

 

[Mobyseven]

DavidJayJordan...we'll miss him so.

Does anyone know what forum he was guided here from? Is he an LCer, a Pilot, etc?

Or is he just a NWO watchman making sure we're actually doing our jobs properly?

 

[WildCat]

DavidJayJordan...we'll miss him so.

Does anyone know what forum he was guided here from? Is he an LCer, a Pilot, etc?

Or is he just a NWO watchman making sure we're actually doing our jobs properly?

I think he's a numerology woo. Just check out this thread he started before posting in Conspiracy Theories...

 

[Mobyseven]

Now my head hurts...shouldn't have asked...getting woozy...

 

[UserGoogol]

This is true skepticism in my opinion. Not believeing what the world, the rich, the powerful, tell us to believe.... nor what the education systems, the religious systems and the military juggernaut tells us to believe. For these lies are sent out to deceive us and indoctrinate into us as lambs to the slaughter.

The "true skeptic" is skeptical of everyone. They are skeptical of the rich and powerful, but they are also skeptical of what the poor and weak claim. I do not deny that conspiracies exist, of course they do. Power corrupts, and these corrupted people are going to come together to do some sneaky stuff from time to time. But the sort of conspiracies that "conspiracy theorists" claim tend to stretch the imagination somewhat. Thus, they must be looked at a case by case basis. The government lies to us, but they also tell the truth to us, and arguably the whole point of skepticism is the ability to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

Your method seems a bit more paranoid than proper skepticism. That is, being afraid of being led like lambs to the slaughter, you focus your doubt on trying to find slaughterhouses. This is understandable, but the resultant myopia can lead to a rather inaccurate view of how the world is.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Once, just ONCE I'd like a poster like Davidjayjordan to actually stay around for a while and DEFEND HIS POSITION.

We are NOT sheep blindly trusting what 'the Man' tells us. And we are certainly not sheep blindly trusting what Davidjayjordan tell us.

Who exactly is telling you what to believe, Davidjayjordan?

Me... I'm real and I am HERE. What's your query. But to state whether you are an honest conspiracist who believes there are mysteries in life, as a starting point.

For real searchers are real skeptics who come to real conclusions and then are attacked by dishonest skeptics that are shallow. For I expected, my post would be a for gone conlcusion, because I would have assumed real skeptics would all know that there are conspiracies in life. But HERE, many love the doctrine of the deceiving governments, educational church and military systems that lie to control.

 

[gnome]

Me... I'm real and I am HERE. What's your query. But to state whether you are an honest conspiracist who believes there are mysteries in life, as a starting point.

For real searchers are real skeptics who come to real conclusions and then are attacked by dishonest skeptics that are shallow. For I expected, my post would be a for gone conlcusion, because I would have assumed real skeptics would all know that there are conspiracies in life. But HERE, many love the doctrine of the deceiving governments, educational church and military systems that lie to control.

You can tell how much we love the doctrine of deceiving governments, churches, and military by how orthodox we are over at R&P....

 

[Davidjayjordan]

The "true skeptic" is skeptical of everyone. They are skeptical of the rich and powerful, but they are also skeptical of what the poor and weak claim. I do not deny that conspiracies exist, of course they do. Power corrupts, and these corrupted people are going to come together to do some sneaky stuff from time to time. But the sort of conspiracies that "conspiracy theorists" claim tend to stretch the imagination somewhat. Thus, they must be looked at a case by case basis. The government lies to us, but they also tell the truth to us, and arguably the whole point of skepticism is the ability to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

Your method seems a bit more paranoid than proper skepticism. That is, being afraid of being led like lambs to the slaughter, you focus your doubt on trying to find slaughterhouses. This is understandable, but the resultant myopia can lead to a rather inaccurate view of how the world is.

Dear brethren of the jury, USERGO speaks truth in the above excerpt, do say on USERGO, I like your thought pattern, good on you. And hopefully you will fight with reason and logic and case by case thought and searching, as sometimes the conspiracy theorist screw up entirely.

We have to discern lies from truths, for most lies contain some truth in order to get the person receiving it, a sweet taste as it goes down to their stomach to kill them..

We can NOT go to the extreme and believe everything or reject everything

GOOD POST.. USERGO

 

[CurtC]

Mysteries in life? You mean like love?

Or are you talking about the nature and distribution of dark matter and dark energy in the universe? Now that's a mystery.

So Davidjay, do you actually have anything to say?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I think he's a numerology woo. Just check out this thread he started before posting in Conspiracy Theories...

Nah I'm an independant Christian missionary, ex world class athlete and mountain man that can still play an almost great round of golf in my mind.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan//Abouttheauthor.html

But can;t be labeled anything except an individual as I reject groups that rely on group faith, we all must learn to stand on our own, discern on our own and be responsible for what we do and don;t do...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GroupFaith.html

Got to fly, back to answers queries and pose questions maybe later, maybe tommorrow... stay independant brave and free...


IH

david

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I am skeptical of many things that george bush says...but that doesn't mean that i disregard 100% of his statemants. some things he says are true...some is false...and some is in that grey area of "governmant intelligence"

but to believe that everything out of his mouth..or out of the mouth of governmant is a lie...is not being skeptic...its being an extremist...in a black and white world.

the world..and truth..is not black and white...there are many shades of grey.

Exactly Bro... and yet that grey can kill you if it is poison or the culmination of grey in your body gets to a lethal dose.... but as you say, we must discern truth from lies in every instance, for liars use the ploy of adding some truths to their deceptions. I mean even Bush has writers bright enough to have some rationale to his speeeches until you compare it to their horrible actions and dementia and trickery and wars and worse.

Bush himself is dumber than dumb, and usually a puppet is put in power that can usually pretend to be intelligent, with Bush though they really have their job cut out to try and make him appear together and mentally sound.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

Again, when using the word "Goyim" in the quote below, what do you mean:

For they are into control at the higher levels while many of the goyim below believe the greatest lie of all, that they are free.

if anything but the old "the joooos are behind every evil in the world".

Cheers,
SLOB

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Mysteries in life? You mean like love?

Or are you talking about the nature and distribution of dark matter and dark energy in the universe? Now that's a mystery.

So Davidjay, do you actually have anything to say?

Oh Yea, Mystery of Life...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Mysteryoflife.html

Change colours below to find out the mystery.. or hilight.

What is Life all about? Do we just live and then die and that’s all there is?
Why are we here? What is the purpose of life? What is the Mystery of Life?
For understanding all the other mysteries of science, history and scriptures
means absolutely nothing if we don’t understand our own lives, Right? Isn’t
this what we should all be searching for …the ULTIMATE MYSTERY OF LIFE,
our own lives?

Yet if we consider what the wisest man in the world said, maybe it would give us a clue in this quest. For King Solomon said: Ecceliastes 1:2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun? One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever……. All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

Therefore it seems, our own labour won’t be that fulfilling !! So Solomon tried to fill his mind with impersonal secular knowledge. Ecceliastes 1:13 And I (Solomon) gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith…... And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

And here again, this worldly wisom didn’t seem to make him happy ? So he then tried the mindless ‘pursuit of pleasure’ Eccelesiastes 2: 1 I said in mine heart, Go to now, I will prove thee with mirth, therefore enjoy pleasure: and, behold, this also is vanity. I said of laughter, It is mad: and of mirth, What doeth it? I sought in mine heart to give myself unto wine,

But even alcoholism and drowning himself in wine didn’t seem to satisfy, So Solomon never giving up trying to fill his spiritual vacuum tried materialism and even music to fill up his empty heart. Ecc 2:8 I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces: I gat me men singers and women singers, and the delights of the sons of men, as musical instruments, and that of all sorts. …Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought, and on the labour that I had laboured to do: and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there was no profit under the sun.

Then said I in my heart, As it happeneth to the fool, so it happeneth even to me; …… (We all die) Therefore [SIZE=-1]I hated life[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit. So Solomon seemed to try just about everything, and yet without success. So what then is the solution to Life, what does bring us happiness and fulfillment.? What are we all looking for anyway. Yet centuries later one poet was so brash as to say she had found the solution, that even the wisest man on Earth could not..

AH! SWEET MYSTERY OF LIFE, at last I've found thee; Ah! I know at last the secret of it all; All the longing, striving, seeking, waiting, yearning, The burning hopes, the joys and idle tears that fall! For 'tis LOVE, and love alone, the world is seeking;And it's love, and love alone, that can reply; 'Tis the ANSWER, ti's the end and all of living, (Rida Johnson Young ) .

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[Davidjayjordan]

You see, it takes work to find answers, just like your hilighting of my last post, if you wanted to go deeper into the mystery of life. Real skeptics are not lazy and superficial, they work at finding secrets like good sceintists. the lazy the churchie, those that cling to the tails of the socalled rich and POWERFUL like to do nothing as they are deceived by thier temporal riches.

SEEK TO FIND

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

You see, it takes work to find answers, just like your hilighting of my last post, if you wanted to go deeper into the mystery of life. Real skeptics are not lazy and superficial, they work at finding secrets like good sceintists. the lazy the churchie, those that cling to the tails of the socalled rich and POWERFUL like to do nothing as they are deceived by thier temporal riches.

SEEK TO FIND

Evasion noted. Now please specify what you ment by using the word "Goyim" in the quote above.

Cheers,
SLOB