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The Valley of the Wood Apes

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Cervelo said:
Well as always....it begs the question....why wouldn't you get the facts of the story straight before you shoot your mouth off?
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Because as I told you, I'm not that vested in this, and it was a spontaneous decision to make a detour to have a look. The only reason I brought it up was because Resume asked me specifically why I thought the whole thing was a lie and that's my anecdotal story, for what it's worth.
 
Jodie said:
THe guy who owns the cabin is very specific about where it is. Another forum member of the BFF owns property near there, her handle is Painthorse. I went on the NF lands that supposedly border these two properties. At this point I'ld have to look up the GPS co-ordinates but that ought to be enough for you to get a general idea of where I was.I'm not seeing why this is an astounding claim. I went for a ride , maybe in the wrong area, and found nothing.
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How hard could that be to provide....a simple screen shot of the area off google earth would have been easy to provide long ago in the conversation.
A specific location on a 1.8 mllion acre/multi-state NF is no pop in, you had to know exactly where you were going.
Your dodging, dismissive nature is making me very skeptical of your claim.
 
Jodie said:
Because as I told you, I'm not that vested in this, and it was a spontaneous decision to make a detour to have a look. The only reason I brought it up was because Resume asked me specifically why I thought the whole thing was a lie and that's my anecdotal story, for what it's worth.
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Your participation at BFF, and here would indicate your very vested in the subject not sure what that has to do with the orginal question....just another red herring IMO.
 
Jodie said:
Oh get over yourself, how many times do I have to tell you guys that there is no one out there to even hear a rock falling IMO. As for being hypocritical, I think you need to look in the mirror.
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Still waiting for you to back up this claim as well!
 
William Parcher said:
I don't think that a civilian can legally do such a thing.

Your claims of surveying the region are really preposterous. It reminds me of your claim to have seen Abraham Lincoln speaking to the public in one of your past lives. You are a constant source of extraordinary claims.

It's as if you are a singularly fantastic presence on the planet. I'm skeptical of virtually everything that you say. You talk about yourself all the time here, so the arguments are drawn onto you rather than the object of your claims. It tests the forum guideline of "attack the argument, not the arguer" because you force the argument to be about you based on personal anecdotal experience.
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Ah yes....don't forget the cougar story. I think it went something like "oh yeah by the way I saw a cougar attack a deer on the SC coast.....nah didn't report it to the police....had to go out of town the next day"
The most interesting component to these type of stories is how vague they are upon initial presentation. Knowing full well they will be challenged....it conspicuously allows for a tremendous amount of detail to be metered out as the challenges to the story are brought. It would almost appear as if the story was being made up as it plays out.
It's certainly how this one and the cougar story have played out!
 
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Cervelo said:
How hard could that be to provide....a simple screen shot of the area off google earth would have been easy to provide long ago in the conversation.
A specific location on a 1.8 mllion acre/multi-state NF is no pop in, you had to know exactly where you were going.
Your dodging, dismissive nature is making me very skeptical of your claim.
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I told you that you guys wouldn't consider my story as proof of anything.
 
Cervelo said:
Your participation at BFF, and here would indicate your very vested in the subject not sure what that has to do with the orginal question....just another red herring IMO.
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LOLOLOL.....OK. I haven't been a member of the BFF in over 6 years and I might drop in here to see if anything new has happened once in awhile.
 
Jodie said:
I told you that you guys wouldn't consider my story as proof of anything.
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More dodging LOL!
Nobody's asking for proof of anything....just something that would indicate that your claim is anything but baseless!
Should we apply the same yardstick you've used to access the NAWACKIES to your stories?
 
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Sure, go ahead. First off, I have no idea how to do a google earth snap shot, second, no pic or snap shot proves anything. I told you where I was, that's the best I can do, sorry. Take it or leave it.
 
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Cervelo said:
It's certainly how this one and the cougar story have played out!
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There is a game cam video of a possible cougar on Lady's Island from 09/2016 and another report from Bluffton since that conversation. That's alright, if Fish and Game says it can't exist then I guess that makes SC cougars imaginary.
 
Jodie said:
There is a game cam video of a possible cougar on Lady's Island from 09/2016 and another report from Bluffton since that conversation. That's alright, if Fish and Game says it can't exist then I guess that makes SC cougars imaginary.
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Sure thing you'll believe anything you find on the internet, to support your cougar fantasy.........got it ;)
 
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Jodie said:
Sure, go ahead. First off, I have no idea how to do a google earth snap shot, second, no pic or snap shot proves anything. I told you where I was, that's the best I can do, sorry. Take it or leave it.
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Nope there's no way you can prove your story is not a complete fabrication, but you certainly could provide some detailed information that would support you ever being in Qutachia NF. But your postion is nothing new for you or your baseless claims.
So how did you figure out where you were going, did you drive across the country using a paper map?
 
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Jodie said:
Sure, go ahead. First off, I have no idea how to do a google earth snap shot, second, no pic or snap shot proves anything. I told you where I was, that's the best I can do, sorry. Take it or leave it.
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Maybe we could ease into this.....which state were you in?
 
Cervelo said:
Nope there's no way you can prove your story is not a complete fabrication, but you certainly could provide some detailed information that would support you ever being in Qutachia NF. But your postion is nothing new for you or your baseless claims.
So how did you figure out where you were going, did you drive across the country using a paper map?
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I used map quest and sent the directions to my phone. I do carry an old fashioned Atlas in the car for back up. :)
 
Upon Extinction-

Since scientists can't be everywhere to truly determine real time extinction, don't they instead look to environmental factors to determine extinction?

Creatures A ate plants B, plants B no longer exist, so Creatures A must be gone too. If we were to find a habitat with plants B...we might postulate Creatures A still exist.

Neanderthals and Cro-magnon 'people'(?) lived and ate basically what we do today, and lived in similar habitats. There are primitive peoples, located deep in the rain forests still isolated from the modern world, somewhat protected from contamination by their unknown host governments.

"Bigfoot" sightings tend to happen along heavily wooded corridors within other animal migration patterns.

Mistaken identity or false extinction?
 
King of the Americas said:
Upon Extinction-

Since scientists can't be everywhere to truly determine real time extinction, don't they instead look to environmental factors to determine extinction?

Creatures A ate plants B, plants B no longer exist, so Creatures A must be gone too. If we were to find a habitat with plants B...we might postulate Creatures A still exist.

Neanderthals and Cro-magnon 'people'(?) lived and ate basically what we do today, and lived in similar habitats. There are primitive peoples, located deep in the rain forests still isolated from the modern world, somewhat protected from contamination by their unknown host governments.

"Bigfoot" sightings tend to happen along heavily wooded corridors within other animal migration patterns.

Mistaken identity or false extinction?
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Native Americans have one of the highest percentages of Neanderthal DNA compared to other populations on the planet, however, no Neanderthal ever lived in North America so I don't think you can blame bigfoot on false extinction.

I do think that bigfoot is an archetype left over from when other versions of humans lived together on the planet. It's a cultural memory of some type mixed up in fairy tales about ogres.
 
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