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Cont: The Valley of the Wood Apes, part 2

The Shrike

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So these wood apes? Not a thing.

ABP - brilliant insight about drying out the birches! Love that deep wintergreen aroma of cut birch. I also love teaching greenhorns about chewing on birch twigs for that flavor.


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AlaskaBushPilot said:
Thank you guys for cheering me up. This funk is on a run. ISIS is taking over the city next to our house on Mindanao today. My "re-creation" of Patterson's Thailand trip was actually an ongoing effort to relocate our family there, although I did hold true to Patterson's research methodology. It's happening, it's unbelievable, and we hope Duterte kicks their ass.

This hydra Cervelo is wrestling - BLAARGing is generally a one-step-ahead gaming strategy. We just answer the current question with a manipulative response that need not be consistent with an over-arching whole. It doesn't take intelligence. It takes having no conscience about what you are doing.

That's why I don't like the social costs of BLAARGing: teaching people to interact with others in this way. It's abusive. And yeah, when you get into big enough trouble then cause a train wreck so the discussion is cut off by the moderators. How many times have we seen that?

It's an alternate reality, right? Not just Area X's whole charade about wood apes, but any player can poof into existence a new alternate reality version where it is a ten mile hike carrying 300 pounds of gear to their cabin.

Every player in the BLAARGing world poses themselves as a skeptic. A real skeptic, in contrast to the extreme skeptics. So you can't just take someones proclamation about being a skeptic as proof they aren't BLAARGing.
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You nailed it ABP and of course it turned out just as I predicted LOL!
 
The Shrike said:
So these wood apes? Not a thing.

ABP - brilliant insight about drying out the birches! Love that deep wintergreen aroma of cut birch. I also love teaching greenhorns about chewing on birch twigs for that flavor.
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You're so kind. Ya, the flavor. So much to know. If you split them immediately after you cut the rounds, the skin will pop off whole and that's your fire starter. The birch bark. That's why I've been so driven to get them home.

The Siberians showed me how to use them in the Sauna, it's medicinal - you keep the fresh twigs in a bucket of water and whip each other with them, on the back, thighs, and major muscle groups. It feels great. Releases some kind of chemical on your body.

You get these perverted con-men in the woods who instead of passing on good information are supplanting it with bad information. You have them dressing up in weird pseudo-military clothes and holding tape measures up to wind-blown trees, faking footprints, writing ridiculous spook narratives while being too afraid to look outside...

Anti-knowledge: learning something false that supplants learning something that is true. Like Christmas and Jesus' birthday party supplanting Solstice.

The place these guys have really gone immoral is bringing it into the schools, and these NAWAC guys are really pushing it in the schools.
 
Jodie said:
I'm less bothered by Painthorse's claims because she hasn't franchised it, it's her personal experience on her own property. NAWAC is a commercial operation hunting a figment of the imagination with tax incentives.
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Sharon Hill has certainly franchised both ends of the footy world and would appear to be much more successful at it than the NAWACKIES.
 
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ABP-
Would you be willing to infiltrate the Wood Ape camp, if a magazine like OUTSIDE or SKEPTICAL INQUIRER paid you to do it?
 
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Two dozen posts are now in AAH. Several points need to be made:
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Would you be willing to infiltrate the Wood Ape camp, if a magazine like OUTSIDE or SKEPTICAL INQUIRER paid you to do it?
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They know who I am. One of the things the mods have done here is clamp down on multiple attempts to "out" me. Infiltration by me isn't feasible.

A covert surveillance program in the winter might be interesting though. All I need is the standard package. (Five foot, 82 lbs, jet black hair, athletic body.) The last research assistant, if we can get like an H-1 Visa for her, I'm definitely down for it.
 
Exactly how would you infiltrate the camp? Just go to the area where you think it is like I did? I don't think they would recognize you ABP, you're kind of generic looking, which is to your advantage for these kinds of things. I went in mid summer, assuming it was the right area, they aren't there at that time either unless you just want out of Alaska for the winter.
 
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Both actually, the NAWAC'ers aren't there mid summer. I didn't know that when I went out there or when I first posted about them. I looked at their web site and it says that they go out in spring and early summer.
 
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They know who I am. One of the things the mods have done here is clamp down on multiple attempts to "out" me. Infiltration by me isn't feasible.

A covert surveillance program in the winter might be interesting though. All I need is the standard package. (Five foot, 82 lbs, jet black hair, athletic body.) The last research assistant, if we can get like an H-1 Visa for her, I'm definitely down for it.
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I don't know if you are in the Philippines right now, if so, be safe.

Looks like it's hitting the fan over there with the IS Militants.

By infiltrate, I mean set up an observation post near their property, perhaps on state/federal land, with spotting scopes and things like that. I didn't mean like go full undercover.

I have heard that someone in the group has placed listening devices in the camp, and is recording camp conversations. So maybe we could just tap into those.
 
Oklahoma Wood Apes have evolved so that not being able to hit a target, is advantageous to breeding. Those that actually hit something, get shot and go off to the woods to die.

The bad-aimers pass on their bad aiming genes.

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Oklahoma Wood Apes have evolved so that not being able to hit a target, is advantageous to breeding. Those that actually hit something, get shot and go off to the woods to die.

The bad-aimers pass on their bad aiming genes.
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:biggrin: More of Bigfoot's evolution absurdities. In my opinion, <DWA>based on the overwhelming amount of highly credible eyewitless descriptions</DWA>, Bigfoot doesn't seem to be evolving in the proper direction.

First there was Bigfoot and the lord was happy. And then there was Roger Patterson and lord was happier. Then came John and Rene and Peter and Grover. Then Roger left. And nothing appeared. But then came chasing cars at 45 MPH. And lifting 500 pound barrels of cotton candy. And the accumulation of pets. Wait, pets, what?

The pets was his demise. Through all these many eons of time he's aptly and completely avoided detection using among other things stealth. Yet somehow decided that a yelpy Pomeranian was a good adjunct to that. Or finicky cats? Talking birds? Talk about extinction. Bigfoot signed his own death warrant by having a soft spot for pets. Anyone seen Bigfoot lately? Didn't think so. He's extinct now.
 
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I don't know if you are in the Philippines right now, if so, be safe.

Looks like it's hitting the fan over there with the IS Militants.

By infiltrate, I mean set up an observation post near their property, perhaps on state/federal land, with spotting scopes and things like that. I didn't mean like go full undercover.

I have heard that someone in the group has placed listening devices in the camp, and is recording camp conversations. So maybe we could just tap into those.
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It's the next city over from our family (Marawi City) that ISIS tried to take over and is still holding hostages. Our family is justifiably nervous, but it isn't the high drama of a hobo in a vineyard. Only 70 officers missing presently. I'm in the US right now.

James Randi was all about infiltration and stings. It's pretty easy to see how to do this here. You need forward information to stage surveillance so it would require someone getting on their little private communications network and getting the heads-up on an expedition time frame. To follow Randi's methodology best, someone would need to pose as a retired wealthy donor. There is film of BFRO running around banging on trees and yelling for Wally Hersom. It would be great to film them putting on a show for an undercover Hersom.

This guy Daniel Falconer is great. He says the Area X cabin is ten miles off on four wheel drive "trails". It is a place you couldn't walk to "overland". It's a new standard: it's so remote, the only way you can get there is to drive. Like 7-11. People can't scale buildings or swim through sewers to reach 7-11. No, you have to drive on the streets. It's that remote.

He got to experience rock-throwing at area X. He's vague of course.

The reason why there aren't photos is because when you encounter animals in the woods, a camera is the last thing on your mind, especially when your purpose is to film that animal.

Kathy Strain is his bigfoot mentor.

In this guy's opinion, NAWAC is the premier bigfoot research organization. He does claim they're trying to preserve habitat because there is logging only 10 miles away. Of course, NAWAC has never done a thing for habitat preservation and the surrounding area is already in a National Forest. Pretty clear to me this is an enthusiastic gamer, not a gullible idiot.
 
If anyone can find contact info for Wally Hersom, I would be glad to contact him to see if he is interested in funding an outside investigation.
 
HarryHenderson said:
Here's the highlight, he doesn't even comply with the NA part of NAWAC. He's a New Zealander in New Zealand. Apparently a few trips to the US made him an expert in North American Wood Apeage. :eek:
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Is he claiming there are bigfoots (or Wood Apes) in New Zealand? That would be incredible, considering that the only known native mammals there are bats and marine mammals.
 
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